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To think 'Full time' should mean less hours?

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Foreverbear · 07/11/2026 16:24

I keep thinking this.

Full time in my organisation is 37 hours (public sector) but like many places the pay hasnt kept up with inflation. They cant afford to pay more, I get that. But people arent happy and if they cant afford to increase salaries, why not just reduce the number of hours equivilent to a full time salary?

That way our hourly pay would go up without increasing the wage bill.

Obviously output would then be lower, but I feel like in a lot of areas this could we where we could start to lean into AI to cover the shortfall, or just accept that service levels will drop and prioritise.

If people had the same salaries but more time (say 30 hours working week instead of 37), they could use the extra time to do a whole load of other things that would benefit society as a whole or save the individual money:

  • Use public transport to commute
  • Not have to reply on wraparound care
  • Proper homecooked meals instead of quick dinners out of exhaustion
  • Excercise or other hobbies good for mental health
  • A side hustle if they want/need more money.

Am I batshit to think this could work in some organisations and make people much happier??

OP posts:
shuggles · 07/11/2026 18:40

glitterpaperchain · 07/11/2026 18:28

I don't know why you seem to be freaking out about this. Among myself and people I know, tutoring, marketing, administrative support.

What do the marketing and administrative "side hustles" look like? Are they work from home jobs, or how exactly does this all play out?

glitterpaperchain · 07/11/2026 18:42

shuggles · 07/11/2026 18:40

What do the marketing and administrative "side hustles" look like? Are they work from home jobs, or how exactly does this all play out?

Have you not heard of freelancing? We find clients, invoice them for the work, and declare income on self assessment taxes every January.

BeLemonMoose · 07/11/2026 18:45

Yeah wages are seriously shit at the moment. I am fed up of being low paid for what is a skilled job.

LongDarkTeatime · 07/11/2026 18:47

intrepidpanda · 07/11/2026 18:39

Less than 6% of workers work in the NHS so why in heaven do NHS workers continue on many threads to say 'well obviously you don't work in the NHS'. NO they possibly don't.

  1. No where did it say it was just NHS (read the history, that was the 1st accusation)
  2. No where did it say everyone works in the NHS
  3. the original comment solely gave an example from A4C and the possible impact of the OP’s suggestion on the NHS. Discussing THAT is the point of this thread.
ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 07/11/2026 18:48

Where I worked, in the public sector, some people did work 4 days, for 5 days' pay. But they worked 4 longer days, so that they worked the same number of hours per week as those who worked a standard 5 day week. So the organisation got the same amount of work from them as before.

Motheranddaughter · 07/11/2026 18:49

Where I am the shocking levels of service in the public sector simply cannot be allowed to faa any further

BeLemonMoose · 07/11/2026 18:50

@Motheranddaughter what do you mean?

SewingWarriorQueen76 · 07/11/2026 18:51

Do you work on the public sector where everyone is taking on more and more but we can’t AI our way out of antiquated shit IT so everyone does more than their hours.
Add in dealing with those who think working for the public sector is a piss take then find yourself working 50 hours a week instead of the 37 you are paid for.

They can drop all the hours they like, things won’t get done.

TheGoodEnoughWife · 07/11/2026 18:54

I am a teacher and we have a 4 Day Working Week in our school (paid for five) for most of our weeks (there are some that aren’t due to special events).
It works really well and when people suggest the life of a teacher is awful with a terrible work/life balance I do not recognise that at all.
My work life balance is excellent. I love my job and give my job 100%.

Thedam · 07/11/2026 19:10

TheGoodEnoughWife · 07/11/2026 18:54

I am a teacher and we have a 4 Day Working Week in our school (paid for five) for most of our weeks (there are some that aren’t due to special events).
It works really well and when people suggest the life of a teacher is awful with a terrible work/life balance I do not recognise that at all.
My work life balance is excellent. I love my job and give my job 100%.

Edited

What country?

TheGoodEnoughWife · 07/11/2026 19:13

The U.K. - England

Lozlegs · 07/11/2026 19:14

Foreverbear · 07/11/2026 16:47

Yes, it struggles more.

But they could put mitigations in place for this. AI being one. More flexi time being another, so during truly busy periods people can work more but then take it back off when it quietens.

Very blinkered, there are many many roles where shift work is essential and not just in health care, there are many office based roles with sporadic urgent deadlines, your idea would maybe work but only in jobs with routine predictable tasks.

Thedam · 07/11/2026 19:14

TheGoodEnoughWife · 07/11/2026 19:13

The U.K. - England

Edited

And you work in a primary / secondary? Where the school is open 4 out of 5 days? Or is it the no teacher works more than 4 days in a week?

Herewegoagain127 · 07/11/2026 19:16

Not lean into.

it’s the new corporate phrase. Hate it. Stand up straight! Leaning is unprofessional 🤣

TheGoodEnoughWife · 07/11/2026 19:19

Thedam · 07/11/2026 19:14

And you work in a primary / secondary? Where the school is open 4 out of 5 days? Or is it the no teacher works more than 4 days in a week?

Edited

My school has both primary and secondary and is open five days a week.
All staff have an ‘out day’ most weeks. (28/39 this school year)

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 07/11/2026 19:19

I effectively have this. I was offered a great job at a great company they couldn't afford me so they gave me their top offer for a 4 day week. It's great!

Thedam · 07/11/2026 19:22

TheGoodEnoughWife · 07/11/2026 19:19

My school has both primary and secondary and is open five days a week.
All staff have an ‘out day’ most weeks. (28/39 this school year)

This isn’t mainstream

TheFriendlyPotato · 07/11/2026 19:22

Thedam · 07/11/2026 16:45

Sure
and I’d expect the salary to be reduced accordingly to save tax payers money

They just condense the hours into 4 days. So the person still does 37.5hrs

TheFriendlyPotato · 07/11/2026 19:23

Trainspotter12 · 07/11/2026 16:39

I can do all my work in about one day a week, it’s actually surprisingly draining given that I have to still be there the rest of the time.

Why are they hiring you if it can be done in a day? Just get it done in a day and cut your hours surely?

wishingonastar101 · 07/11/2026 19:25

Fewer.

TheGoodEnoughWife · 07/11/2026 19:26

Thedam · 07/11/2026 19:22

This isn’t mainstream

No, it is a SEMH school. But it could work in a mainstream - why wouldn’t it?

Thedam · 07/11/2026 19:29

TheGoodEnoughWife · 07/11/2026 19:26

No, it is a SEMH school. But it could work in a mainstream - why wouldn’t it?

Yes I thought so

are the children in school 4 out of 5 days too?

TheGoodEnoughWife · 07/11/2026 19:32

No, the students are in five days.

Thedam · 07/11/2026 19:34

TheGoodEnoughWife · 07/11/2026 19:32

No, the students are in five days.

Ah that’s good

Bunnychubbers · 07/11/2026 20:59

shuggles · 07/11/2026 18:40

What do the marketing and administrative "side hustles" look like? Are they work from home jobs, or how exactly does this all play out?

I’m not sure what’s so difficult to understand about people freelancing? If you have a marketable skill whether that’s creative or another business service like web development, accounting, executive assistance etc, or a practical skill like gardening, carrying out environmental assessments, maintenance etc, you can easily sell this on a self-employed basis. The term “side hustle” might have only existed for the last decade or so but people have been freelancing either full time or alongside permanent roles for donkey’s years. Some of these skills are fast being gobbled up by AI though.

OP you’re not wrong - if you’re not already familiar with the degrowth movement I recommend reading into it - Less Is More by Jason Hickel is a good book that lays out the fundamental flaws of capitalism and how a different economic arrangement would allow for exactly what you’re suggesting.

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