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AIBU for giving my step-niece less than my nieces for 17th birthday?

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OnTheWatersEdge · 02/08/2026 10:18

It was my brothers step daughters 17th birthday this week. We gave her £50 and a few gifts. My brother also has 2 biological daughters who are older and a step son who is younger.

When my 2 nieces turned 17 years ago, I gave them money for driving lessons. I knew my brother wouldn’t be able to afford them and checked with him at the time that he was ok with me paying for them.

The amount I gave my nieces was significantly more than I have given to SD. I thought my brother was quiet after I gave SD her gifts and he has now spoken to our parents to say he is disappointed that I haven’t given the same amount to SD as I did to my nieces so that she can have driving lessons. It never crossed my mind to give SD the same as our nieces.

Would you say anything? Obviously he hasn’t spoken to me about it and I only know through parents. He knows our parents don’t keep anything to themselves so I feel like he wanted me to know.

AIBU to not have given the same? Would you say anything?

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SENsupportplease · 03/08/2026 02:22

maxslice · 03/08/2026 02:18

It means they should be treated like family. If OP chooses to give biological nieces and nephews £1,000, then something on a similar scale is appropriate to the stepniece and nephew. It is a BLENDED family. That is apparently how her brother feels and understandably got the message that OP believes that although stepniece has been part of his family since she was a young child, she is still an unworthy outsider.

OP didn’t choose to blend it though.

Her brother doesn’t have the right to decide that for her. If he had brought in 4 step kids do they all get the same from OP? What if his current marriage breaks up and a new one begins, does the current obligation to step niece cease and a new one for new steps begin?

At any point is OP allowed a closer relationship to the blood relatives whose lives she has presumably been part of since birth?

Giving SN a lovely chosen present to the tune of £100 doesn’t sound like she is being treated like an outsider

InterIgnis · 03/08/2026 02:22

maxslice · 03/08/2026 02:18

It means they should be treated like family. If OP chooses to give biological nieces and nephews £1,000, then something on a similar scale is appropriate to the stepniece and nephew. It is a BLENDED family. That is apparently how her brother feels and understandably got the message that OP believes that although stepniece has been part of his family since she was a young child, she is still an unworthy outsider.

They are indeed a blended family, not a nuclear one. That means that the children of that family don’t all have the same relatives in common, and the relationships they have will reflect that. She hasn’t been treated like OP’s nieces because she isn’t OP’s niece.

nomas · 03/08/2026 02:21

maxslice · 03/08/2026 02:18

It means they should be treated like family. If OP chooses to give biological nieces and nephews £1,000, then something on a similar scale is appropriate to the stepniece and nephew. It is a BLENDED family. That is apparently how her brother feels and understandably got the message that OP believes that although stepniece has been part of his family since she was a young child, she is still an unworthy outsider.

The brother can blend his family as much he likes but you can’t force the extended family to treat everyone exactly the same.

maxslice · 03/08/2026 02:18

nomas · 03/08/2026 01:12

So treating someone like family means they should have £1,000 spent on them?

It means they should be treated like family. If OP chooses to give biological nieces and nephews £1,000, then something on a similar scale is appropriate to the stepniece and nephew. It is a BLENDED family. That is apparently how her brother feels and understandably got the message that OP believes that although stepniece has been part of his family since she was a young child, she is still an unworthy outsider.

PrettyPickle · 03/08/2026 02:18

kkloo · 03/08/2026 02:14

Jesus Christ @PrettyPickle would you ever stop? Talk about dogmatic! Many don't agree with you, get over it.

I know I've been saying people don't all think the same but I'm fairly sure the 'emotional impact' of your repeated chatgpt posts is mental torture on all of us 😂

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Back atcha! Night, time for bed!

PrettyPickle · 03/08/2026 02:17

InterIgnis · 03/08/2026 02:13

You have no idea what the ‘emotional impact’ or ‘emotional relationship’ is or isn’t. If she does feel hurt it’s unfortunate, but it’s not OP’s fault or problem to solve.

You don’t need to keep repeating your bullet points. No one has failed to understand you, we just don’t agree.

That's fine, I don't agree with you either and thats why the OP comes on here, to get other peoples opinions and now she has a variety. Mission accomplished.

SENsupportplease · 03/08/2026 02:17

kkloo · 03/08/2026 02:14

Jesus Christ @PrettyPickle would you ever stop? Talk about dogmatic! Many don't agree with you, get over it.

I know I've been saying people don't all think the same but I'm fairly sure the 'emotional impact' of your repeated chatgpt posts is mental torture on all of us 😂

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PrettyPickle · 03/08/2026 02:16

nomas · 03/08/2026 02:01

Why do you keep repeating yourself?

You realise we have all stopped reading?

I'm repeating myself because you don't seem to be understanding it and I have said there is a limit to how many different ways I can put it...and to say you aren't reading, how do you know I am repeating myself?

nomas · 03/08/2026 02:16

kkloo · 03/08/2026 02:14

Jesus Christ @PrettyPickle would you ever stop? Talk about dogmatic! Many don't agree with you, get over it.

I know I've been saying people don't all think the same but I'm fairly sure the 'emotional impact' of your repeated chatgpt posts is mental torture on all of us 😂

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It’s funny because even the tone of the Chat GPT posts has gradually got more strident.

I wonder if that was a prompt from pickle or if even Chat GPT got tired of repeating the same line 🤣

PrettyPickle · 03/08/2026 02:15

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Reported for being a bot? Honestly if I were a bot, I’d at least have the sense to keep my replies under 500 words. I tell you what I am though soar, got repetitive strain injury from typing and my bed is calling.

Love
Bot! x

kkloo · 03/08/2026 02:14

Jesus Christ @PrettyPickle would you ever stop? Talk about dogmatic! Many don't agree with you, get over it.

I know I've been saying people don't all think the same but I'm fairly sure the 'emotional impact' of your repeated chatgpt posts is mental torture on all of us 😂

InterIgnis · 03/08/2026 02:13

PrettyPickle · 03/08/2026 02:08

But that’s exactly the point - calling her “an in‑law” doesn’t magically make the emotional context disappear.

Yes, legally she isn’t the aunt’s niece. Nobody is disputing that. But emotional relationships aren’t built on paperwork, they’re built on shared life. And this child has shared eight years of day‑to‑day family life with the aunt’s nieces.

That’s not remotely comparable to an adult who marries into a family.

She’s been there for:
birthdays
Christmases
family meals
holidays
ordinary daily life

She hasn’t “arrived” as an in‑law. She’s grown up inside the family unit. That creates a very different emotional landscape.

And again - nobody is saying the aunt must give £1000.
Nobody is saying the step‑niece is entitled to it.
Nobody is saying the aunt has done something morally wrong.

The point is simply that the disparity is stark, and stark disparities carry meaning in close family settings.

Two girls got £1000 at 17.
One girl got £50 and perfume at 17.
Same milestone. Same aunt. Same age. Very different treatment.

Whether the girl personally shrugs it off, feels a pang, or genuinely doesn’t care - the message created by the contrast still exists. That’s not projecting feelings onto her. That’s acknowledging how comparisons work inside families.

And yes, she may not consider the nieces her sisters. She may be perfectly fine with being in a blended family. She may not care at all. All of that is possible.

But none of that changes the fact that the difference is obvious, and it’s understandable that her father - as her parent - reacted protectively when he saw it.

You don’t have to agree with him.
You don’t have to think the OP should have matched the gift.
But pretending the disparity carries no emotional weight because she’s “not really a niece” doesn’t reflect how blended families actually function after nearly a decade of shared life.

That’s all I've been saying all along

You have no idea what the ‘emotional impact’ or ‘emotional relationship’ is or isn’t. If she does feel hurt it’s unfortunate, but it’s not OP’s fault or problem to solve.

You don’t need to keep repeating your bullet points. No one has failed to understand you, we just don’t agree.

PrettyPickle · 03/08/2026 02:12

kkloo · 03/08/2026 01:58

If people think differently then the emotional impact may well be completely different. This really should not be difficult to understand.

The 'message' may not have bothered her in any way at all, in fact she might have actually got a lovely message from it because she wasn't comparing to the gifts her step-sisters got and was just delighted that the OP was so thoughtful.

You are clearly not listening to what I have repeatedly said.

I’m not claiming she must feel hurt. I’m saying the contrast itself carries meaning - and that meaning exists regardless of how she personally reacts.

Of course emotional responses vary. Of course some teenagers shrug things off. Of course some genuinely don’t care.
But none of that changes the fact of the situation:

  • two girls got £1000 at 17
  • one girl got £50 and perfume at 17
That’s a huge disparity. Whether she personally feels delighted, indifferent, or slightly stung, the difference itself is still there. That’s the point. You’re treating “she might not care” as if it erases the message. It doesn’t. It just means she handled it graciously -which is entirely possible. Teenagers often do that to avoid awkwardness.

And yes, she may have felt nothing but warmth from the aunt’s gesture. That’s absolutely within the range of normal reactions. But her potential reaction doesn’t change the reality of the contrast. The emotional impact isn’t created by me - it’s created by the scale of the difference.

This isn’t about insisting she’s upset. It’s about acknowledging that the disparity is stark, and stark disparities carry meaning in close family settings.
Her father reacting protectively doesn’t mean she’s traumatised. It means he saw a very obvious gap and didn’t love how it looked for his daughter - which is a perfectly normal parental response.

Different people think differently. Different people feel differently. But the situation itself doesn’t change.

Two girls got £1000. One girl got £50. The contrast is obvious - even if the girl herself is perfectly happy with her gift.

PrettyPickle · 03/08/2026 02:10

Ipollita · 03/08/2026 01:56

It was over £100, not £50.

The value wasn’t comparable because the relationship isn’t comparable.

Stepchild has a mother, father (and their extended families) plus a stepfather. I’m quite sure she feels she “belongs” without the aid of £1000 from an unrelated woman.

Step niece was not unhappy in the slightest.

Brother is absolutely grabby - instead of being eternally grateful to OP for funding both of his daughter’s driving lessons during a tough time, he expected her to bankroll his wife’s child. Astounding entitlement.

The “emotional maths” and “the message” reflect the reality of the situation - step niece is not the same as bio nieces and, whilst still being kind and generous, OP is under no obligation to treat them equally. I very much doubt the girl would expect that in any case.

I don't know how many times I can say this, there is a limit to the different ways I can put it.

I’m not claiming she’s the aunt’s biological niece - I’m saying the emotional context of eight years of shared family life matters. Legal terminology doesn’t dictate emotional reality. A child who has grown up inside a family unit for nearly a decade isn’t experienced by the other children — or by the adults - as “an in‑law.” She’s part of the household dynamic, part of the celebrations, part of the day‑to‑day life. That’s simply how blended families work when they’ve been together long‑term.

And again, nobody is saying the aunt must give £1000. Nobody is saying the step‑niece is entitled to it. Nobody is saying the aunt has behaved maliciously.
The point is that the disparity is stark, and stark disparities carry meaning in close family settings:

  • two girls got £1000 at 17
  • one girl got £50 and perfume at 17
Same milestone. Same aunt. Same age. Very different treatment. Whether the girl personally shrugs it off, feels nothing, or feels a pang - the message created by the contrast still exists. That’s not projecting feelings onto her. That’s acknowledging how comparisons work inside families. And yes, she may not consider the nieces her sisters. She may be perfectly fine with being in a blended family. She may not care at all. All of that is possible. But none of that changes the fact that the difference is obvious, and it’s understandable that her father - as her parent - reacted protectively when he saw it.

You don’t have to agree with him. You don’t have to think the aunt should have matched the gift. But pretending the disparity carries no emotional weight because she’s “not really a niece” doesn’t reflect how blended families actually function after nearly a decade of shared life.

That’s all I’m saying - repeatedly

SENsupportplease · 03/08/2026 02:10

I can’t believe people are SO stupid that they can’t see all the obvious AI tells and realise that others are well aware 😂 bet they use it to send emails as well thinking they are super clever

SENsupportplease · 03/08/2026 02:09

nomas · 03/08/2026 02:08

Yes, I’d rather a few lines with typos than a generated bulleted essay.

It’s the repetition that gets me most

like, PLEASE ADD something new and fresh

don’t make me read £1000 to 2 girls yet again

surprised Mumsnet allow it given how it stifles discussion

PrettyPickle · 03/08/2026 02:08

InterIgnis · 03/08/2026 01:55

Of course it works, and she did arrive as an in law. That she was/is a child is irrelevant, and doesn’t make her something she isn’t. She isn’t OP’s niece, and OP hasn’t suggested that she’s been considered or treated as if she is. Hell, the actual nieces may not even consider her their sister. Like I said earlier, there’s another thread running where the OP’s brother is destroying his relationship with his own children because of his insistence that his stepchildren be treated the same.

You don’t know what the emotional impact of this is on her. She may not care in the slightest and just be happy that OP got her a gift. She may be a stepchild that finds the idea that her stepparents family must consider her ‘theirs’ to be utterly strange and annoying. She may be hurt. However she feels, OP has done nothing wrong here.

But that’s exactly the point - calling her “an in‑law” doesn’t magically make the emotional context disappear.

Yes, legally she isn’t the aunt’s niece. Nobody is disputing that. But emotional relationships aren’t built on paperwork, they’re built on shared life. And this child has shared eight years of day‑to‑day family life with the aunt’s nieces.

That’s not remotely comparable to an adult who marries into a family.

She’s been there for:
birthdays
Christmases
family meals
holidays
ordinary daily life

She hasn’t “arrived” as an in‑law. She’s grown up inside the family unit. That creates a very different emotional landscape.

And again - nobody is saying the aunt must give £1000.
Nobody is saying the step‑niece is entitled to it.
Nobody is saying the aunt has done something morally wrong.

The point is simply that the disparity is stark, and stark disparities carry meaning in close family settings.

Two girls got £1000 at 17.
One girl got £50 and perfume at 17.
Same milestone. Same aunt. Same age. Very different treatment.

Whether the girl personally shrugs it off, feels a pang, or genuinely doesn’t care - the message created by the contrast still exists. That’s not projecting feelings onto her. That’s acknowledging how comparisons work inside families.

And yes, she may not consider the nieces her sisters. She may be perfectly fine with being in a blended family. She may not care at all. All of that is possible.

But none of that changes the fact that the difference is obvious, and it’s understandable that her father - as her parent - reacted protectively when he saw it.

You don’t have to agree with him.
You don’t have to think the OP should have matched the gift.
But pretending the disparity carries no emotional weight because she’s “not really a niece” doesn’t reflect how blended families actually function after nearly a decade of shared life.

That’s all I've been saying all along

nomas · 03/08/2026 02:08

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Yes, I’d rather a few lines with typos than a generated bulleted essay.

SENsupportplease · 03/08/2026 02:07

BlackRowan · 03/08/2026 02:03

Yes it is. Of course it’s up to all extended family members to treat children equally

Should the children (some now adult of course) also have to treat each other equally? Or are they allowed to account for bio vs step relationships?

InterIgnis · 03/08/2026 02:07

BlackRowan · 03/08/2026 02:03

Yes it is. Of course it’s up to all extended family members to treat children equally

Nah.

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nomas · 03/08/2026 02:05

BlackRowan · 03/08/2026 02:03

Yes it is. Of course it’s up to all extended family members to treat children equally

The extended family didn’t commit to a step-child.

They should be kind and inclusive but being kind doesn’t mean treating them exactly the same.

SENsupportplease · 03/08/2026 02:05

BlackRowan · 03/08/2026 02:03

Yes it is. Of course it’s up to all extended family members to treat children equally

It isn’t really, they can give what they like to who they like.

in this instance, giving a present was the equal treatment. OP didn’t need to give the same present to someone she has a different relationship with.

im sure the bio family on the other side haven’t done every present equally for the past 8 years, and nor should they

PrettyPickle · 03/08/2026 02:05

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Yep, getting repetitive strain injury here 🤣

PrettyPickle · 03/08/2026 02:04

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I have never used Chatgpt in my life!