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Update to AIBU to refuse Aunt's fwb claim on her estate.

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Sleepneededprettyplease · 07/04/2026 17:52

Posting here because it is where I put the first thread.

A brief summery is that my Aunt died and her FWB is trying to say that he is entitled to part of her estate because she had asked me to allow him to stay in a house she had invested in for me. Anyway if you want the full story feel free to read what I put on the first thread.

Anyway the main thing is that he is now sueing in the courts. I need a bit of a hand hold please. My lawyers have suggested getting a barristers opinion so I am just waiting for that. I wouldn't even mind if it was possible to just go to mediation but he wants the house for the rest of his life and won't consider anything else.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5505433-aibu-to-refuse-aunts-fwb-claim-on-her-estate?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

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LadyLapsang · 08/04/2026 21:44

Going back to your previous thread, why couldn’t your sister be on the deeds? Given the expectation you share the value of the house with your sister, is that captured in the will? Finally, who lived in the house and for how long between you buying it (your aunt buying it for you) and the boyfriend moving in?

Cherrysoup · 08/04/2026 21:43

Sleepneededprettyplease · 08/04/2026 19:38

He is probably harassing me but my solicitors have refused contact from him so he has to go through his solicitor and therefore doesn't much. It costs him. He isn't able to run up my costs with them.

As for the harassing me. It isn't daily or anything so I'm not sure what the threshold is. He probably contacts me a few times a week.

Edited

Pretty sure legally harassment takes 2 times only? As you are able to get rid of hi at the end of May, I’m assuming you went the proper route to evict a tenant? If, as you suspect, he won’t go and you need to involve bailiffs, this is the ‘fast track’ route following an eviction notice. I unfortunately had to kick out an aggressive, non-paying tenant a couple of years ago. It’s stressy, but worth it.

www.nrla.org.uk/resources/ending-your-tenancy/applying-to-court-after-serving-a-section-21-accelerated-possession?irclickid=33oU1j0jaxyZTI3TwCw9OUPbUku1bWyY2VJbWg0&irpid=10078&irgwc=1&afsrc=1&utm_source=affiliates&utm_medium=affiliates

Calling · 08/04/2026 21:41

What is this 'original agreement' you refer to?

Calling · 08/04/2026 21:29

Sleepneededprettyplease · 08/04/2026 21:13

No. I messed up and missed a page in the original agreement.

He is not your tenant, or is he? I really don't think that you should pursue him for rent - asking for trouble.
So sorry about all this.

Sleepneededprettyplease · 08/04/2026 21:13

MusicalRocks · 08/04/2026 20:50

This is a bit of a side track but any chance you can sue him for unpaid rent given that he was meant to pay and didn't?

No. I messed up and missed a page in the original agreement.

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DurinsBane · 08/04/2026 21:00

Nearly50omg · 07/04/2026 20:49

You have to pay lawyers and court costs up front so if he has no money he can’t take you to court?

The op has mentioned this. He has deferred payment to the lawyers, so will pay with his (deluded) ‘winnings’, and court fees aren’t that much according to the op

DurinsBane · 08/04/2026 20:59

FairKoala · 07/04/2026 21:13

Surely that makes him a squatter and the police would have been called to turf him out.

People don’t evict squatters. The owner has to hire bailiffs to do that. The police will come if trouble kicks off and they are called…

PyongyangKipperbang · 08/04/2026 20:54

So the judge cannot legally award the house to him as it is owned by you predating aunts death, and almost certainly wont award him anything out of the estate. I am as baffled as @Sleepneededprettyplease as to what he hopes to achieve!

At best he was an acquaintance that you allowed to live rent free for a period as he was a casual boyfriend of your aunts. If you had died he might have a claim I suppose, but your business relationship with him was entirely separate from his personal relationship with your aunt!

ETA I agree that a "few times a week" is definitely harassment, the police would take that seriously.

Smallorveryfaraway · 08/04/2026 20:51

Sleepneededprettyplease · 08/04/2026 19:38

He is probably harassing me but my solicitors have refused contact from him so he has to go through his solicitor and therefore doesn't much. It costs him. He isn't able to run up my costs with them.

As for the harassing me. It isn't daily or anything so I'm not sure what the threshold is. He probably contacts me a few times a week.

Edited

A few times a week is too much. I'd get a cease and desist letter sent. He's no need to contact you directly for anything surely.

MusicalRocks · 08/04/2026 20:50

This is a bit of a side track but any chance you can sue him for unpaid rent given that he was meant to pay and didn't?

Ladybyrd · 08/04/2026 20:48

Itsmetheflamingo · 07/04/2026 18:21

He’s not going to pay hers is he? That’s the real fucker, even if you win you’ll be thousands down. I hope he gives in soon OP.

These things are a nightmare. The only people who win are the lawyers.

Sleepneededprettyplease · 08/04/2026 20:48

UncannyFanny · 08/04/2026 20:32

Blimey, all this because your aunt who was the kindest person and helped everyone bought house in your name to try and dodge inheritance tax. She’s really put you in it here, hasn’t she? Imagine if she’d just bought it in her own name and left you out of it?

TBH it might have been even more complicated.

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UncannyFanny · 08/04/2026 20:32

Blimey, all this because your aunt who was the kindest person and helped everyone bought house in your name to try and dodge inheritance tax. She’s really put you in it here, hasn’t she? Imagine if she’d just bought it in her own name and left you out of it?

ScribblingPixie · 08/04/2026 20:12

Sleepneededprettyplease · 08/04/2026 18:49

I don't get what he thinks he is doing TBH beyond stressing me out.

Presumably that's his aim - to stress you out so much you hand over the house. Just walk through it, OP, and put him out of your mind as much as you can. Believe everybody who tells you he hasn't a leg to stand on. All of his words are nothing more than the sound of a ticking of a clock leading up to the time this all ends.

Flowerlovinglady · 08/04/2026 20:02

I would ask for some legal advice about what might happen. It may be worth your while to offer a settlement even though even fibre of my being says don't do that. Remember Bleak House, Dicken's novel where they argue the case of Jarndyce versus Jarndyce, an inheritance case but when it is eventually resolved there is no money left, it has all gone to the lawyers?

Sleepneededprettyplease · 08/04/2026 19:59

thepariscrimefiles · 08/04/2026 19:51

You say that he has deferred his lawyer's costs. Is his solicitor a 'no win, no fee' solicitor or will he have to pay his solicitor's fees, even if he loses?

If his solicitor is 'no win, no fee', your aunt's FWB has nothing to lose by taking you to court, even if he has no likelihood of winning. He is probably enjoying causing you stress and you having to pay legal costs.

I don't truly know. It was a line in the financial disclosure. It said deffered legal costs will potentially mean that there are no savings left.

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thepariscrimefiles · 08/04/2026 19:51

Sleepneededprettyplease · 08/04/2026 10:20

He seems to be utterly convinced that he is in the right. The estate total isn't huge not even close to a million.

You say that he has deferred his lawyer's costs. Is his solicitor a 'no win, no fee' solicitor or will he have to pay his solicitor's fees, even if he loses?

If his solicitor is 'no win, no fee', your aunt's FWB has nothing to lose by taking you to court, even if he has no likelihood of winning. He is probably enjoying causing you stress and you having to pay legal costs.

Sleepneededprettyplease · 08/04/2026 19:38

wayfairer · 08/04/2026 19:35

Surely he is harassing you? If he is daily calling and writing!
I would tell my solicitors not to respond to him at all.
Only respond to his solicitor and only if his solicitor brings something new to light. Seems they are trying to just build up your costs!
He's basically causing you increased costs, but your solicitors don't need to engage any more, they only need to respond if they recieve something offical. They don't need to engage with a back and forth! Tell him to stop harassing you and that you will see him in court. Seems like his solicitor is also like him! Just trying it on. Get him evicted then ignore him.

Edited

He is probably harassing me but my solicitors have refused contact from him so he has to go through his solicitor and therefore doesn't much. It costs him. He isn't able to run up my costs with them.

As for the harassing me. It isn't daily or anything so I'm not sure what the threshold is. He probably contacts me a few times a week.

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Sleepneededprettyplease · 08/04/2026 19:35

LovesLabradors · 08/04/2026 19:17

I don't know what the exact legal definition of a dependent is, but normally it's your child, or spouse of elderly parent - someone who is dependent on you for care, food, housing, bills etc. I don't think "FWB" will cut it tbh.
He's presumably arguing that he was dependent on her for housing? But he paid council tax, etc? That would be a scary legal precedent if that succeeded! Let your FWB stay in your spare room, and bang - congratulations, they're your legal dependent, and they can get some inheritance?!
Did your Aunt support him financially at all, or just offer for him to stay in this house?

I mean she paid half if they went out and she occasionally paid something for him. I think she paid for him to go with her to things. I remember her getting him a new suit once for an event.

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wayfairer · 08/04/2026 19:35

Surely he is harassing you? If he is daily calling and writing!
I would tell my solicitors not to respond to him at all.
Only respond to his solicitor and only if his solicitor brings something new to light. Seems they are trying to just build up your costs!
He's basically causing you increased costs, but your solicitors don't need to engage any more, they only need to respond if they recieve something offical. They don't need to engage with a back and forth! Tell him to stop harassing you and that you will see him in court. Seems like his solicitor is also like him! Just trying it on. Get him evicted then ignore him.

LovesLabradors · 08/04/2026 19:17

I don't know what the exact legal definition of a dependent is, but normally it's your child, or spouse of elderly parent - someone who is dependent on you for care, food, housing, bills etc. I don't think "FWB" will cut it tbh.
He's presumably arguing that he was dependent on her for housing? But he paid council tax, etc? That would be a scary legal precedent if that succeeded! Let your FWB stay in your spare room, and bang - congratulations, they're your legal dependent, and they can get some inheritance?!
Did your Aunt support him financially at all, or just offer for him to stay in this house?

WallaceinAnderland · 08/04/2026 19:14

Sleepneededprettyplease · 08/04/2026 19:04

Someone supported by the deceased. The argument is does asking me to let him stay count as giving financial support because it was housing without really paying.

And exactly how did the deceased support him?

The deceased did not house him because the house he lived in did not belong to the deceased.

So what other way did she support him? It sounds like your solicitors are making a meal of this. Are they charging you for every interaction with him?

MrsMoastyToasty · 08/04/2026 19:06

The petty part of me says get the utilities switched back into your name and then get them capped off (although that would be at a cost to you).
The sensible part of me says have you checked Shelter's website? It's there to advise landlords as well as tenants. Although I would say he's a squatter.

Sleepneededprettyplease · 08/04/2026 19:04

WallaceinAnderland · 08/04/2026 19:01

No he is sueing for support from the estate claiming to be a dependant.

What does your solicitor say is the legal definition of a dependant?

Someone supported by the deceased. The argument is does asking me to let him stay count as giving financial support because it was housing without really paying.

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Sleepneededprettyplease · 08/04/2026 19:03

LovesLabradors · 08/04/2026 18:21

Well you can't just give him the house - that's ridiculous!

He's got no chance contesting the will in any shape or form - but obviously legal fees are a v real concern. It honestly sounds like a nightmare for you OP.

Your best hope sounds to be getting it thrown out at the first stage.

There was a storyline like this in Fisk on Netflix actually - but that's set in Melbourne. Is a comedy though, so not reliable for legal advice!

I can chuck him out at the end of May. I think this legal stuff is just trying to drag it on so that he can argue that I can't chuck him out with an ongoing case. Then he can stay longer. I am not biting on that though. He goes the day I have the court appointed right to get rid of him.

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