To think people should wear fucking earphones?

@TurnCuriousTurn My three year old understand s 'no sound on videos if we're in public' but then, it's a very rare occasion that he has access to our phones.

Honestly - if I travel by train I always have a set of earphones in my possession. You either get the one in the carriage who talks on the phone the entire journey, the one who plays gods knows what out aloud or bunch of women/men on a day out. Used to be able to read a book on a train - not anymore. Revert to audio books instead!

I travel on trains a lot and this drives me potty, it’s so rude, why on Earth does everyone think it’s fine for the whole train to have to hear it?

Well the problem there is the headphones, not Bluetooth or the lack of cable.
And even if mine ran out of power or I left them at home I still would entertain the idea of playing something in public full blast.

It really is easy to connect Bluetooth ones. I have had to connect mine once, after that they automatically connect

Mine are crap and I have to reconnect them every time. And sometimes they disconnect while I am using them. But usually I use wired ones with my old skool music player.

It really is easy to connect Bluetooth ones. I have had to connect mine once, after that they automatically connect.

This is one of my pet hates. Worse still in a restaurant . Hubby brought me to a fancy place where an older couple watched a loud video on their phone and the wife smiled over at me as if to say “aren’t we fun people” .( you’d think at their age they would have picked up a shred of dining etiquette) The owner was within a whisker of asking them to put their phone away . Most phones come with ear phones and sorry we don’t all want to hear whatever boring shite you are listening to. No, you are definitely not being unreasonable.

Yes it very often seems to be football matches on the trains I frequent as well!

I disagree that it is to do with removing the earphone jack. That was 2016. 8 years is plenty enough time to get used to the idea, especially when you consider that many of the people doing this were kids then. It’s much easier to put in Bluetooth headphones that connect instantly than have cables hanging about

It's not that easy to connect Bluetooth headphones. And they often disconnect as well. I do think it's part of the issue although people are just lazy and inconsiderate as well.

As for playing music in a garden, people are just arseholes. Use headphones or go indoors!

I might try this or a variation thereof.

I think we can blame Apple for this though, as they removed the headphone jack on phones. It can be a right pain trying to hook up wireless ones, so people are lazy and don't.

I still have an old school ipod style music player that I can use headphones with :)

I find outdoor music utterly unbearable and it has ruined pleasant spring and summer days for me countless times. However, it's usually played on speakers and so doesn't have the harsh tinny sound that a phone or tablet does which is physically painful to hear. Also, you can (reluctantly) go indoors and shut the windows or go out somewhere if you have neighbours irritating enough to play music outside but you can't fling yourself off a train however tempting it can be! I think that might be the difference.

I agree that this will be a legacy of the children allowed to watch cartoons at full blast in restaurants etc. No reason to consider that anyone else might not want to hear your shite.

I disagree that it is to do with removing the earphone jack. That was 2016. 8 years is plenty enough time to get used to the idea, especially when you consider that many of the people doing this were kids then. It’s much easier to put in Bluetooth headphones that connect instantly than have cables hanging about.

What I don’t get is that we can all agree that this is annoying, yet the playing music in your garden threads are often divided.

I am so relieved when I travel first class on trains for work because I have never encountered this in First but experience it every time I'm in Standard. Like a pp, I suffer from misophonia and it is so torturous. I put in my own earphones and block it out for sanity but am genuinely dreading a three hour train journey next week solely due to being subjected to tinny videos blasting out of passenger phones.

It's also impossible to eat anywhere family friendly now because any restaurant or cafe with children in will have cartoons and videos playing out loud. My own kids understand never, ever to do this but virtually an entire generation are being raised to think it's totally normal. From babies watching an iPad in a high chair in a restaurant on holiday to toddlers on trains blaring out Peppa Pig to teens playing TikTok clips on rapid-fire on the bus - they are growing up with no concept that headphones are the considerate choice or even that they're an option at all. I can only see it getting worse as children born now won't know any different.

YANBU . This is so annoying. Also people speaking on the phone the whole journey. Very often in a different language and im not being some weird xenophobr it's just as annoying in plain English. I just wouldn't dream of doing either . I wonder why these noise polluters can't pick up how annoying it is ? Are they missing a sense ? Missing a sense of consideration for others that's for sure .

I had exactly that with a passenger on a train near me ( I travel a lot) and felt just like you!

You've hit the nail on the head - I think that's a key change and they don't want to bother with linking to Bluetooth and putting on earphones.

Another legacy - it's become so normalised that it's acceptable because it's everywhere.

Just come off a bus journey and yes, loud phone conversations throughout despite the company of her DH

@Mabelface Well I think you have been lucky. My experience has been very different and sadly I don’t bother now. Not worth getting a smack

I'm always happy to ask them to tone it down. Did it last weekend to a bunch of lads on a stag do who were very noisy on the train.

I told them that they seem like decent lads, and would they mind toning it down a bit, as I could hear them clearly over my own music played on anc headphones. They apologised and I had a giggle with them whilst waiting to get off.

I always go in with a smile and it rarely fails.

Given all the support given to various disabilities now, and rightly so, misophonia is massively overlooked.

I'm ND but misophonia affects me more day to day. There will always be noise but anti social behaviour makes it so much worse.

Yes even people with headphones in with the volume turned right up. The tube is crammed. I will ask people to turn volume down even in this case, unless I’ve got my headphones in. I have to say it doesn’t happen too much on packed tube carriages. There are way too many grumpy people willing to say something on those, I’ve found.

@HullaBallu Now imagining Uncle Bulgaria taking out litter droppers with an Uzi. [Happy sigh]

Agree that it is a long boring slog teaching your children to behave as if other people exist in public. Easier to give up on that.

If I'm not near enough to ask them to turn it down, I sit and imagine them in front of a firing squad. If I ruled the world that would be the punishment for not having all devices on silent on public transport. Or public anywhere tbh.

The thing is you never know what reaction you'll get. A lot of people who behave like this genuinely just don't know any better, are ignorant or it's learned behaviour from others.

Others have no empathy and don't care about anybody else. They're the star of their own show 24/7. I don't know how any of these people hold down jobs.