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Losing the plot!

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Colddespiteduvet · 05/04/2024 07:59

I’m losing the plot as DH is insisting that I’m clearly wrong here. he’s being pretty forceful and I don’t get it.

We are buying a new car. Have found a couple. To part exchange we’d get less than car is worth with private sale.

DH wants to go with private sale. I’m fine with that. He wants to buy the new car now and the put the old car up for sale. I want sell first, then buy.

He doesn’t have a reason for this. But was very vexed that I didn’t agree.

I don’t want a few thousand pounds of our assets sitting on the drive when we don’t know for sure it will sell. The car will depreciate whereas money in the bank will accumulate. If it’s a short time it will be minimal but what if it doesn’t sell?

He says it will sell, at the right price. Auto trader get their prices from sales so they are selling, he said. I said, but we don’t know how many are selling and how fast.

So we don’t know is if ours will sell though. We live very rurally, it’s not in fantastic condition and it is old. I’m concerned it will end up sitting on the drive, it will still need to be insured. I also don’t see what is to be gained by buying first. We have another car that we are keeping, so we’d never be without a car.

So lovely MNs. What do you think? Am I being ridiculous? Are my arguments valid? He is totally convinced I’m just being stubborn and making spurious arguments.

AIBU to want to sell before we buy?

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bottomsup12 · 05/04/2024 10:59

It just doesn't matter either way. Just get the new car if you can afford it and sell the other one.
Private selling is a total faff though and you won't get your asking price without waiting ages unless you are very very lucky.

Colddespiteduvet · 05/04/2024 10:52

HappiestSleeping · 05/04/2024 09:28

I would sell the existing car first. I've had all sorts of trouble selling recently. I priced my car £500 lower than the cheapest comparable model and still got tyre kickers and people making ridiculous offers without even seeing the car.

To be fair, it is a convertible, and I was trying to sell in October last year. I decided to wait for the good weather should such a thing ever happen here again.

Thanks. I imagine it will be a pain.

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Colddespiteduvet · 05/04/2024 10:52

rightoguvnor · 05/04/2024 09:33

I never private sell nowadays. The concepts of "sold as seen" and "buyer beware" have just gone out of the window.

Yes. Good point.

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Colddespiteduvet · 05/04/2024 10:50

GasPanic · 05/04/2024 09:57

Do either and don't worry about which.

"Lose the plot" over something actually important.

I meant I’m doubting myself because DH seems so sure I don’t have a valid reason for selling first. I think I’ve got good points but he’s so cross and sure I’m wrong I needed validation. I’m not losing the plot angry. That would be OTT.

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Colddespiteduvet · 05/04/2024 10:47

Minfilia · 05/04/2024 10:41

I think you’re definitely right to have your reservations then. I’d sell it first.

I personally wouldn’t choose an older EV due to the battery life. I say this as an EV owner, mines only 3 years old and it’s already dropped a lot since I got it.

It’ll sell though for the right price I’m sure!

Thanks. Yes. First three years are most depreciation but it slows after that.

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Minfilia · 05/04/2024 10:41

Colddespiteduvet · 05/04/2024 08:29

It’s a small EV so yes cheap to insure and great run around but would new drivers want an automatic EV? That’s my concern. It’s a newish secondhand market so less tested. If it was a petrol car I’d not be so unsure of it selling.

I think you’re definitely right to have your reservations then. I’d sell it first.

I personally wouldn’t choose an older EV due to the battery life. I say this as an EV owner, mines only 3 years old and it’s already dropped a lot since I got it.

It’ll sell though for the right price I’m sure!

GasPanic · 05/04/2024 09:57

Do either and don't worry about which.

"Lose the plot" over something actually important.

rightoguvnor · 05/04/2024 09:33

I never private sell nowadays. The concepts of "sold as seen" and "buyer beware" have just gone out of the window.

HappiestSleeping · 05/04/2024 09:28

I would sell the existing car first. I've had all sorts of trouble selling recently. I priced my car £500 lower than the cheapest comparable model and still got tyre kickers and people making ridiculous offers without even seeing the car.

To be fair, it is a convertible, and I was trying to sell in October last year. I decided to wait for the good weather should such a thing ever happen here again.

Caffeineislife · 05/04/2024 09:26

I'd go part exchange for the easy option. You take the car in, they deal with all the faff and the next buyers.

There is demand for certain second hand cars at the right price so you might get some private interest if DH wants to private sell. You might also get a lot of tire kickers and people who want to negotiate down. It will require keeping the car somewhat tidy, clean and washed which can be a bit of a faff. You also might find you are having to stop in or wait around for buyers who are really late or even don't show with no communication.

My dad sold my first car privately (it was a 2008 Micra so ideal first car for a new driver) a few years ago and it was a PITA. People wanting to see it and not turning up. People coming to see it just for a day out. Lots of tire kickers. A couple of students. A couple of delivery drivers who wanted a run around. A few randoms who were more interested in the house and garden and the neighbours houses and gardens than the car. He thought he could shove it on the road with for sale in the window and bang it on auto trader and it would be gone in a fortnight. It took ages. It did finally go to a 19yr old. He part exchanges all his cars nowadays and has advised me to do the same.

CranfordScones · 05/04/2024 09:17

These aren't normal times because used cars have appreciated recently and there's quite a bit of demand.

I'd put the old one up for sale - nothing to lose if you have a spare car as you said - and guage interest. If it's fairly strong then use that as a sign it will sell and make arrangements for the new car (is there a lead time on that?).

If there's little interest then lower price and be more cautious about timescale for buying new car.

Itsaloadofbollocksbut · 05/04/2024 09:16

WhiteLeopard · 05/04/2024 09:11

I don't think either of you is right or wrong about the particular question you've asked. But I would go for part ex rather than private sale for the reasons given already.

Same. An older EV isn’t going to be worth a premium
here.

Colddespiteduvet · 05/04/2024 09:15

Itsaloadofbollocksbut · 05/04/2024 09:05

My boss’ husband tried this one. The car sat on their drive for about 3 years. He ended up selling it for spares or repair, only after she refused to go on another holiday with him until he sorted out selling it. He likes holidays, so……..

This is the concern I have. It’s unlikely but possible.

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WhiteLeopard · 05/04/2024 09:11

I don't think either of you is right or wrong about the particular question you've asked. But I would go for part ex rather than private sale for the reasons given already.

Itsaloadofbollocksbut · 05/04/2024 09:05

Colddespiteduvet · 05/04/2024 08:05

’can take ages’ - can you call my DH and tell him this please! 😂 I knew it!! Never done it before as always drove my cars into the ground. Thanks.

My boss’ husband tried this one. The car sat on their drive for about 3 years. He ended up selling it for spares or repair, only after she refused to go on another holiday with him until he sorted out selling it. He likes holidays, so……..

Colddespiteduvet · 05/04/2024 09:03

Jovacknockowitch · 05/04/2024 08:59

Maybe it's just due to all mine being shite but that has not been my experience at all - I did sell eventually but it was a struggle each time so I have given up.

People promising to turn up who didn't, ridiculous phone calls from shouty people trying to offer £20 for the car etc - it's all just too much for me but perhaps OP has a more desirable car and a thicker skin.

I’m not sure how desirable it will be. Which is my argument. We have no idea if it will sell so better to test that first.

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Colddespiteduvet · 05/04/2024 09:01

MoserRothOrangeandAlmond · 05/04/2024 08:57

If private sale is taking ages...then it's set at the wrong price. Some people selling on auto trader price their cars at the top level of what auto trader have quoted.
You need to be realistic in pricing and drop it down a bit.
I've sold about 5 cars on auto trader (the last one being last year) all have been gone within a week.
I would buy then sell...so I'm not without a car

That’s reassuring. It’s an older EV though. Less range than the newer ones and fewer and slower charging places. Still cheap to run and 130 mile range though. Poor condition interior but ok outside.

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Jovacknockowitch · 05/04/2024 08:59

WaitingfortheTardis · 05/04/2024 08:10

I think that is true with many things, but selling cars is fairly easy as there is quite a bit of demand for second hand ones.

Maybe it's just due to all mine being shite but that has not been my experience at all - I did sell eventually but it was a struggle each time so I have given up.

People promising to turn up who didn't, ridiculous phone calls from shouty people trying to offer £20 for the car etc - it's all just too much for me but perhaps OP has a more desirable car and a thicker skin.

MoserRothOrangeandAlmond · 05/04/2024 08:57

If private sale is taking ages...then it's set at the wrong price. Some people selling on auto trader price their cars at the top level of what auto trader have quoted.
You need to be realistic in pricing and drop it down a bit.
I've sold about 5 cars on auto trader (the last one being last year) all have been gone within a week.
I would buy then sell...so I'm not without a car

Colddespiteduvet · 05/04/2024 08:50

xyz111 · 05/04/2024 08:47

I think you are both being unreasonable by arguing. If you needed the money from the car sale to buy the new car then it would be understandable. But literally no point in arguing, it really doesn't matter 🤦🏻‍♀️

Well. I didn’t think we were. I thought we both had valid views and it was just a discussion. Then he got cross. I don’t get why it’s an argument either which is my AIBU because he says my reasons for wanting to sell first are so ridiculous and because I didn’t agree with him, it’s made him frustrated.

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xyz111 · 05/04/2024 08:47

I think you are both being unreasonable by arguing. If you needed the money from the car sale to buy the new car then it would be understandable. But literally no point in arguing, it really doesn't matter 🤦🏻‍♀️

Colddespiteduvet · 05/04/2024 08:46

CommentNow · 05/04/2024 08:43

Basically you're worried he wont actually get around to selling it and it will be left to you? That's a valid concern. On the basis that he has form for it, i would sell first.

Selling first means that if you cant sell it reasonably quickly, the option of a part exchange is still on the table.

If it's an awkward model as you've said and its dirty and peeling trim it may not sell as fast as you think. And you've said you like 3 cars and they arent shifting so that would make me worried that mine would take ages to sell as well.

If you're determined to private sell, do it first. If you buy first and for whatever reason your current car breaks, you could be left in a tricky position. If you part exchange there is no hassle.

Thanks.

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CommentNow · 05/04/2024 08:43

Basically you're worried he wont actually get around to selling it and it will be left to you? That's a valid concern. On the basis that he has form for it, i would sell first.

Selling first means that if you cant sell it reasonably quickly, the option of a part exchange is still on the table.

If it's an awkward model as you've said and its dirty and peeling trim it may not sell as fast as you think. And you've said you like 3 cars and they arent shifting so that would make me worried that mine would take ages to sell as well.

If you're determined to private sell, do it first. If you buy first and for whatever reason your current car breaks, you could be left in a tricky position. If you part exchange there is no hassle.

Pippa246 · 05/04/2024 08:42

Colddespiteduvet · 05/04/2024 08:37

Thanks. We may do that.

My question is more about whether my arguments about selling first are as valid as his. He things I’m being ridiculous and there is no validity in wanting to sell first.

If you don’t need the money from the old car to buy the new one, then I suppose there is no need to sell first. But DH needs a good reason to hold back from selling first - otherwise what is the point? Say you keep it on your drive and then reverse into or something. You’ll still need to road tax and insure it - keep the battery turned over etc. seems pointless unless there is a specific need to keep it.

overall I’d say he is BU.

Colddespiteduvet · 05/04/2024 08:37

Sahara123 · 05/04/2024 08:35

We’ve just sold a car using Motorway , it was quick and easy , and we were very pleased with the price we got. I’d use them again rather than a private sale any day as you know you’ve sold the car .
We did a private sale the previous time, it was more stressful as we didn’t know how long it would take , we got a couple of scam calls ( I can’t remember the exact scam but it was something to do with offering more than it was worth ) and then when it finally sold there’s the handing over of money worry , do we say cash, do we ask for a bank transfer and then move the money quick in case they do some kind of weird reverse thing.
Get a quote from Motorway at least , it saves so much hassle.

Thanks. We may do that.

My question is more about whether my arguments about selling first are as valid as his. He things I’m being ridiculous and there is no validity in wanting to sell first.

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