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To think husband doesn't get to have it both ways re children?

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PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 07:16

My husband has two older children and we have younger DC together.

Since they have been older (12 & 14) he has got into the habit of leaving them at home at the weekend whilst he goes to work (SE so can definitely choose whether to go or not) often not telling me about this until the night before / day of.

He will say it doesn't matter because they are old enough to look after themselves so makes no difference to me. Fine.

I have taken to thinking well I'll just get on with my day then as normal if he says it makes no difference to me I.e. Still going out with the little ones etc..

He will make comments about this though sometimes like if I'm out over lunch time asking me if DSC have eaten, what they have for lunch, should be making sure they have something. Or even sometimes saying it's mean of me not to take DSC out with me if I end up going somewhere they might light for example I once had a trip to a big aquarium/zoo place planned with my sister and our younger children and he was pissed that I didn't immediately take DSC with me when I found out he had decided to go in work, instead they stayed home alone all day.

I just think he wants his cake and to eat it too. You can't say oh it makes no difference to you because they can look after themselves so I'm going out and then in the same breath moan about me not looking after them? Can they look after themselves or not? If they can then it shouldn't matter that I get on with my day, if they can't then he should be at home or at the very least asking me if it's okay.

What do you think?

OP posts:
Grumpynan · 04/04/2024 08:58

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PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 08:56

like bowling do something the older ones would like

I'm not arranging bowling for teens with two toddlers in tow 😂

OP posts:
Luxell934 · 04/04/2024 08:55

Is he choosing to work weekends during his contact time because you need the money and he needs to provide for all his kids or are you well off enough that he doesn’t have to work these hours? To me there’s a big difference between buggering off to the pub with his mates and working for the good of the family. Some people are too quick to judge this guy as a shit dad but then also too quick to judge others who don’t provide for their children. Imagine if this man didn’t bother working and didn’t pay child support, people would be all over the fact he’s a dead beat dad who should get a job and work all hours to support his multiple kids with multiple women.

Vod · 04/04/2024 08:54

PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 08:38

And no he didn't go to work when they were younger. He only goes now because apparently they can be left alone now for some days and don't need looking after. But then in the same breath apparently they do?

I was just thinking, I wonder where this stuff about you knowing what he was like before having DC with him had come from. You'd said nothing about his behaviour when the DSC were younger. Now we see it was purely assumption from that poster.

BibbleandSqwauk · 04/04/2024 08:53

Leaving aside the main issue of the step dynamic, there are some fairly OTT responses on here about the kids being left all day at 12 and 14. Mine are that age and as a single parent, in the holidays or weekends i will sometimes disappear for several hours at a time leaving them to sort their lunch etc. I have things to do and they are perfectly happy in the house. If they are unwell, (cold/ headache, not vomiting or bed bound) I go to work. I do think the dad here is out of line but the hysterical pearl clutching about the "poor kids" being abandoned is the wrong angle to come at it from.

MississippiAF · 04/04/2024 08:52

Naunet · 04/04/2024 08:50

Would it kill their dad to? I love how shit fathers are just accepted and women are expected to fill in for them. The kids are there for contact time WITH HIM, not OP. The way he’s treating them is going to impact them, he’s a horribly selfish man.

Exactly.

And why would he change if OP continually sorted it for him?

SKG231 · 04/04/2024 08:52

Your husband is a lazy father.

It is NOT on you to parent his children.

I assume you don’t have full custody of the children so he should be actually spending time with them during the minimal time they’re at your house.

stand up to him and tell him to parent his fucking kids.

phoenixrosehere · 04/04/2024 08:52

babaisyou · 04/04/2024 08:40

No one denies that there are different expectations/ pressure on males and females when it comes to parenting and no one is saying that is fair. It's 'disingenuous' of you to suggest that I am implying this.

The fact is that OP went for a day out with her own two biological children and left her two step-children in the house without inviting them.

I can tell you that as a stepchild myself, that would have hurt like hell. Stepchildren are incredibly sensitive to things like that. Whatever is going on between this couple, the children's feelings should have been paramount. She should have invited them.

Neither OP nor her husband are behaving in a way that is in the best interests of their children. I am not 'laying all of this at OP's feet' - I have repeatedly said that they are both at fault.

Edited

A day out planned in advanced that the DH knew about!

You make it out as if she just grabbed her children and went out without the older children without a word.

Again, her DH could have asked her if she and her sister would have minded to take them along when they had planned to go and also asked the older children then if they wanted to go and the children would have been up early and gone along.

Naunet · 04/04/2024 08:50

Bunnycat101 · 04/04/2024 07:44

I think it’s fine for you to do stuff and crack on with the little ones but it also would kill you to plan something everyone could enjoy like bowling do something the older ones would like. It is shit their dad is buggering off on contact days but you also have a choice whether to dig in and make a point or try and make it a bit nicer for them. How engaged is he with them when he comes back from work?

Would it kill their dad to? I love how shit fathers are just accepted and women are expected to fill in for them. The kids are there for contact time WITH HIM, not OP. The way he’s treating them is going to impact them, he’s a horribly selfish man.

VisitationRights · 04/04/2024 08:48

He sounds like a shit father, checking out of family life. YANBU

sashh · 04/04/2024 08:48

As a teen I would have loved to have the house to myself, or myself and a sibling. I would have hated an outing with a toddler or two.

And surely that is the point. Are the SC happy?

Do they want to do anything on the weekend? With or without you and your DH?

Money for the cinema and a pizza or an outing somewhere.

InterIgnis · 04/04/2024 08:46

babaisyou · 04/04/2024 08:40

No one denies that there are different expectations/ pressure on males and females when it comes to parenting and no one is saying that is fair. It's 'disingenuous' of you to suggest that I am implying this.

The fact is that OP went for a day out with her own two biological children and left her two step-children in the house without inviting them.

I can tell you that as a stepchild myself, that would have hurt like hell. Stepchildren are incredibly sensitive to things like that. Whatever is going on between this couple, the children's feelings should have been paramount. She should have invited them.

Neither OP nor her husband are behaving in a way that is in the best interests of their children. I am not 'laying all of this at OP's feet' - I have repeatedly said that they are both at fault.

Edited

if the kids feel like that, that’s entirely on their father.

‘Kids are paramount’ - yet not to their father, so the responsibility falls on the stepmother? That’s convenient! Basically, she’s allowed to take issue with this as long as she sucks it up and does what he wants anyway. Because that emotional blackmail is supposed to work on women, whereas men are tutted at and expected to continue being men.

Fuck no, and I’m glad she didn’t fall for that one.

phoenixrosehere · 04/04/2024 08:45

lzzyJ · 04/04/2024 08:39

I obviously did which is why I have just said your subsequent posts contradict your first post. What's your point?

How does it contradict?

Nowhere in her first post did she write that she doesn’t check on them or engage with them.

Josette77 · 04/04/2024 08:44

PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 08:38

And no he didn't go to work when they were younger. He only goes now because apparently they can be left alone now for some days and don't need looking after. But then in the same breath apparently they do?

He's shown you what kind of father he is.

You need to decide what to do with that information.

Would you want this for your own children?

My ds is 13. I would be livid if he was treated this way.

Craftier · 04/04/2024 08:44

Whycantiwinmillionsandsquillions · 04/04/2024 07:58

Your dh is a terrible parent.

Once again, let this be a lesson to anyone thinking of getting together with someone who already has children.

I see so many posts like this on here.

The main point is always:
If a man already has dcs- run for the hills and never, ever have a child with him.

Except that those whose husbands already have children and who are great dads that don't dump on the stepmum, don't need to post on here because we are on the whole pretty happy.

babaisyou · 04/04/2024 08:40

Iaskedyouthrice · 04/04/2024 08:09

Slightly different dynamic though when it's a stepfather isn't it @babaisyou ? Nothings expected from actual fathers, as you have proven yourself on this thread, certainly not from stepfathers and it would be incredibly disingenuous of you to suggest otherwise.
It's strange how easy it is for you to lay all this at the OP's feet. But stepmothers are easy pickings I suppose.

No one denies that there are different expectations/ pressure on males and females when it comes to parenting and no one is saying that is fair. It's 'disingenuous' of you to suggest that I am implying this.

The fact is that OP went for a day out with her own two biological children and left her two step-children in the house without inviting them.

I can tell you that as a stepchild myself, that would have hurt like hell. Stepchildren are incredibly sensitive to things like that. Whatever is going on between this couple, the children's feelings should have been paramount. She should have invited them.

Neither OP nor her husband are behaving in a way that is in the best interests of their children. I am not 'laying all of this at OP's feet' - I have repeatedly said that they are both at fault.

RocketsMagnificent7 · 04/04/2024 08:39

OP went out to an exciting place that they probably would have liked to go to.

They're 14 and 12, not 4&2.

They've been invited on days out and declined. They spend their time with friends playing football or gaming, sounds to me like they are perfectly happy.

It's OP's husband, feeling guilty because he knows he's not prioritising his children and he's decided to make that OP's fault rather than take responsibility and adjust his own actions.

People on here get so dramatic when it comes to stepchildren. Assuming the kids want to spend the day with their stepmum and much younger siblings rather than doing what they enjoy with their mates.

The only one in this scenario who sounds unhappy is the husband. So it's up to him to change things.

lzzyJ · 04/04/2024 08:39

phoenixrosehere · 04/04/2024 08:21

You could read beyond the first post then. 🙄

I obviously did which is why I have just said your subsequent posts contradict your first post. What's your point?

PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 08:38

And no he didn't go to work when they were younger. He only goes now because apparently they can be left alone now for some days and don't need looking after. But then in the same breath apparently they do?

OP posts:
Iaskedyouthrice · 04/04/2024 08:38

It doesn't sound transactional from OP's side at all @CountFucula . She just has boundaries. We are so used to women, especially stepmothers not having them, it makes us question it when they do. Boundaries are healthy, show good self esteem and are a great example to set to kids. If you give men like this an inch they take a frickin mile and more.

Josette77 · 04/04/2024 08:35

Astariel · 04/04/2024 08:30

Yes. Let’s make sure that, even if we can bring ourselves to acknowledge a man’s failings, that we attach more blame to the woman affected by it.

She should just have made a better choice, shouldn’t she? 🙄

Where did I attach more blame exactly? Can you specifically point that out?

But yes, she could have made better choices.
Is that really debatable?

He's a shitty dad. The evidence was already there with the older kids.

She wasn't conned.
.

PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 08:33

lzzyJ · 04/04/2024 08:19

Your first post makes out you have nothing to do with them, don't feed them, don't invite them out. Of that's the case YABU. Your subsequent posts say you invite them out and feed them so contradict the first one.

Either way your DH is a shit Dad.

Occasionally I invite them, not always. And I will feed them if I'm in the house. But no I won't make sure I'm there over lunch time for example if I have plans just specifically to make sure they eat.

As I say in my OP, they can either look after themselves or they can't. He says they can.

They are also with us 50:50 so it's not the only time they spend at our house.

OP posts:
CountFucula · 04/04/2024 08:32

Poor kids - they have a shitty dad.

and I cannot imagine treating children this way - good that you ask them to come with you anyway - it’s the right thing to do.

it all sounds very transactional in your side though OP - imagine your own children being treated like this?

AnneLovesGilbert · 04/04/2024 08:31

The voting is more sensible and lacking as much projection than the comments.

He’s being incredibly out of order OP, carry on as you are and take no shit from a man who chose to bring at least 3 children into the world and can’t be bothered parenting any of them at the weekend if he can hide from them at work and expect someone else to do it for him.

Astariel · 04/04/2024 08:30

Josette77 · 04/04/2024 08:11

One could also point out, yet another woman who married a crap dad, had more kids with him, and is angry that he is still in fact a crap dad.

No one is exactly a role model here.

Yes. Let’s make sure that, even if we can bring ourselves to acknowledge a man’s failings, that we attach more blame to the woman affected by it.

She should just have made a better choice, shouldn’t she? 🙄