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To think husband doesn't get to have it both ways re children?

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PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 07:16

My husband has two older children and we have younger DC together.

Since they have been older (12 & 14) he has got into the habit of leaving them at home at the weekend whilst he goes to work (SE so can definitely choose whether to go or not) often not telling me about this until the night before / day of.

He will say it doesn't matter because they are old enough to look after themselves so makes no difference to me. Fine.

I have taken to thinking well I'll just get on with my day then as normal if he says it makes no difference to me I.e. Still going out with the little ones etc..

He will make comments about this though sometimes like if I'm out over lunch time asking me if DSC have eaten, what they have for lunch, should be making sure they have something. Or even sometimes saying it's mean of me not to take DSC out with me if I end up going somewhere they might light for example I once had a trip to a big aquarium/zoo place planned with my sister and our younger children and he was pissed that I didn't immediately take DSC with me when I found out he had decided to go in work, instead they stayed home alone all day.

I just think he wants his cake and to eat it too. You can't say oh it makes no difference to you because they can look after themselves so I'm going out and then in the same breath moan about me not looking after them? Can they look after themselves or not? If they can then it shouldn't matter that I get on with my day, if they can't then he should be at home or at the very least asking me if it's okay.

What do you think?

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ConfrontationDoesntHaveToBeScarey · 04/04/2024 12:32

He should properly ask you in advance to look after them. Then you can both discuss your plans.

horseyhorsey17 · 04/04/2024 12:32

PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 12:30

Well, given that only 45% of marriages last, I'm sure that in about 8 years time, it will be your two children sitting at home all alone, when their Step mum goes out for the day with the "new" children. But that'll be ok with you, because it's what you did yourself. Right?

I certainly wouldn't put the blame on her. Why would it be my exes new wifes responsibility?

If I wasn't happy with it as their mother I'd go and get them myself and spend the day with them. Their mum doesn't care and often does the same herself (leaving them alone).

Those poor kids, growing up with a mum and dad that can't be bothered with them.

PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 12:32

BUT, if he has to go in for an emergency, then of course you should include ALLchildren in whatever activities are taking place. If you're not willing to do that, then you shouldn't have married a man who already had kids.

What is this imaginary emergency you've made up? Where have I said I wouldn't look after them in an emergency?

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PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 12:31

If they as parents both think it's fine to leave their children home alone whilst they go out / work. That's their perogative as parents.

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Vod · 04/04/2024 12:30

PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 12:26

And even if he did ask I wouldn't want to be expected to do this every weekend.

He also would need to ask in advance of the time when he wants the favour, instead of after it.

paulaparticles · 04/04/2024 12:30

There was a thread on here recently about how blending doesn't work. There we're so many post's from adult children of them and most were negative and depressing to read. Dont know the name of it but look it up op...if you care enough to.

PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 12:30

Well, given that only 45% of marriages last, I'm sure that in about 8 years time, it will be your two children sitting at home all alone, when their Step mum goes out for the day with the "new" children. But that'll be ok with you, because it's what you did yourself. Right?

I certainly wouldn't put the blame on her. Why would it be my exes new wifes responsibility?

If I wasn't happy with it as their mother I'd go and get them myself and spend the day with them. Their mum doesn't care and often does the same herself (leaving them alone).

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Shopper727 · 04/04/2024 12:29

So when does husband spend any time with his kids? All 4 of them? Does he work every weekend or just those his older children come to visit? Do you get to spend time with him as a family with your younger children?

I don’t think you’re in the wrong here, if you were to stay at home each time they were here how could you plan anything. And the age gap between your kids and the older kids is such that it does make it hard to do something they would all enjoy, my kids all hate bowling it’s never been enjoyable I think my eldest was ok with it but my younger 2 really found it boring.

But your husband needs to be saying right step mum is taking the little ones out with her sister why don’t we go to (McDonald’s/theme park/shopping etc) even staying in and playing video games or just making their lunch and being there for them, or all of you going on a day out. expensive with 4 I know I have 4 with big age gap and there were times I’d take my youngest 2 out somewhere and I’d ask my eldest if he wanted to come and he didn’t he’s as happy at home on his gaming stuff or whatever. He’d come to certain things though. Just depended and my middle son would usually come as too young to be left, then be ‘bored’ you can’t always win with kids.

anyway, I don’t think you’re being at all unreasonable. Your husband is opting out of parenting and life with his family and somehow you’ve been painted as the bad one for actually trying to do stuff with your own little ones where you don’t want 2 mardy bored teenagers ruining it and wanting to come home. I would have serious words with dh that he’s behaving terribly and you are not his back up childcare then making you feel bad. He’s a bit of a nob really

CollagenQueen · 04/04/2024 12:29

Well, given that only 45% of marriages last, I'm sure that in about 8 years time, it will be your two children sitting at home all alone, when their Step mum goes out for the day with the "new" children. But that'll be ok with you, because it's what you did yourself. Right?

Your DH shouldn't be working when his kids are at yours, that much is clear, BUT, if he has to go in for an emergency, then of course you should include ALL children in whatever activities are taking place. If you're not willing to do that, then you shouldn't have married a man who already had kids.

This reminds me of my own kids Step mum, who used to take her own children in the car to school and leave mine to walk. Still makes me really upset and it's over 10 years ago now.

berksandbeyond · 04/04/2024 12:28

Why did you have more kids when he’s such a rubbish dad?

dont act surprised in 10 years when they want nothing to do with any of you and have no relationship with their siblings!

PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 12:28

But a lot of blame lies with your DP. Would he be leaving them alone if he wasn’t living with you??

To be honest I think he would yes. He does when it's school holidays and I'm at work too so there is no choice and doesn't seem bothered (their mum does too).

I think it's only because I'm there as an option that he then just assumes that I should be doing it but in the same breath saying it doesn't make any difference to me.

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PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 12:26

PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 12:20

I would do this favour for my husband if he asked

He doesn't ask. That's the point. What he does is say it's fine, he doesn't need to ask because it makes no difference to me because they don't need any looking after.

Except that's obviously incorrect because he then has a mard that I haven't looked after them. So which is it?

And even if he did ask I wouldn't want to be expected to do this every weekend.

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PaperDoIIs · 04/04/2024 12:25

@PickledFrog yup, but their father must love them because he chose to work weekends. The mental gymnastics are hilarious really. I hope you can see the funny side of this thread and not take it to heart.

LittleGlowingOblong · 04/04/2024 12:23

I think this is one of those ones where you are not at all being unreasonable, but that the inescapable reality is that family life often makes unreasonable demands of us.

But a lot of blame lies with your DP. Would he be leaving them alone if he wasn’t living with you??

This is a problem that will resolve quite soon, and I’d try and take the long term view that before you know it they will be hitting full teen rebellion, spreading their wings and leaving home… maybe try and create some happy family memories and lay the foundations for affectionate half-sibling relationships later on.

But I do see it could cause you at least double the hassle. Depending on your financial set up you could ask for a bigger contribution to your joint account / your own account to recognise the added undertaking.

Vod · 04/04/2024 12:22

Quitelikeit · 04/04/2024 12:14

What the father is saying is they are quite independent at that age and don’t require supervision as such.

They do require inclusivity within the family setup and that means they should be given the opportunity to do whatever the family is doing that day.

Their father is working and he is asking his wife to be mindful of his kids.

I think it is ok for both parents to leave the children for work purposes (bills don’t pay themselves) and they don’t really need a sitter.

If the op wants to go about her days as if the children don’t exist there is something unpleasant about that.

He's asking retrospectively about the trips, so he can't be that bothered. If he thought they deserved the opportunity to be asked along to a trip with preschoolers, the time to make that point was before the trip.

PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 12:21

PaperDoIIs · 04/04/2024 12:20

@PickledFrog maybe you should stop doing all that (which I knew it would all fall to you) and just take them out on days out instead whether they want to or not. Definitely less work involved.Grin

Obviously me not wanting to take them to soft play or not wanting to wait around till mid day to start my own day means I have never once ever done a single thing for them 🙄

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Concannon88 · 04/04/2024 12:21

@PickledFrog who the fuck does he think you are, their nanny? Mean? Mean? Tell him he's mean for choosing to work when its HIS time with his fucking children. Prick.

PaperDoIIs · 04/04/2024 12:20

@PickledFrog maybe you should stop doing all that (which I knew it would all fall to you) and just take them out on days out instead whether they want to or not. Definitely less work involved.Grin

PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 12:20

I would do this favour for my husband if he asked

He doesn't ask. That's the point. What he does is say it's fine, he doesn't need to ask because it makes no difference to me because they don't need any looking after.

Except that's obviously incorrect because he then has a mard that I haven't looked after them. So which is it?

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PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 12:18

Lentilweaver · 04/04/2024 12:06

Are you really hard up for money that he has to work weekends?

No

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Popchippps · 04/04/2024 12:18

Luxell934 · 04/04/2024 10:03

Like money I’m assuming. Like paying the mortgage, electric bill, etc 🤣🤣

I’d rather spend all my time with my husband and kids but I have to pay the mortgage and eat.

Edited

He’s working at the weekend by choice according to OP…

PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 12:17

paulaparticles · 04/04/2024 12:05

Do you actually do anything for these children apart from make them the odd lunch IF your in the house ? You sound very resentful of them and def not working as a team with your husband. Him working weekends to support his family and your making things difficult for him as he told you they don't need much looking after ?? like point scoring. Pathetic really. He will end up resenting you and prob already does. He obviously loves his children and worries about them eating etc which is why he checks in with you. Then you keep going back to the point that he said about them not needing much looking after. You must have a depressing marriage. Awful for ALL the kids actually.

Yes I do. Would you like a list?

I make evening meals 9 days out of 10 which they eat.
I wash their clothes, bed clothes, sports kits
I hoover their room most of the time and often end up tidying it too.
I pick them up from hobbies on my way home from work during the week most of the time.
I pay half for our holidays, food they eat, the home they live in and so on.

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InterIgnis · 04/04/2024 12:16

MandyFriend · 04/04/2024 12:09

I think your poor step-children are pawns in a passive-aggressive power struggle between you and your husband and that isn't fair on them.

I agree that your husband is out of order to swan off to work when he has his kids without a thought to anyone else! I don't know what kind of a relationship you have with these children and if you want one with them in the future, but I think you're being very cold towards them. Please consider being the better person and start including your step-children a bit more for the sake of the children, not your husband!

the husband is trying to dump responsibility for his children on OP. She’s not taking it, and nor should she. They’re HIS responsibility. HE needs to change his plans for the sake of his children, not expect OP to.

PaperDoIIs · 04/04/2024 12:16

MandyFriend · 04/04/2024 12:09

I think your poor step-children are pawns in a passive-aggressive power struggle between you and your husband and that isn't fair on them.

I agree that your husband is out of order to swan off to work when he has his kids without a thought to anyone else! I don't know what kind of a relationship you have with these children and if you want one with them in the future, but I think you're being very cold towards them. Please consider being the better person and start including your step-children a bit more for the sake of the children, not your husband!

Or they're being treated exactly the same by their SM as they are by their parents. Something they are used to and presumably happy enough with. Which bar actual abuse and neglect it's actually the baseline and SMs are expected to follow the parent's patterns.

Explain to me why a SM doing what a mother and father are doing is simply not good enough?

0sm0nthus · 04/04/2024 12:15

The reason the husband is doing this is because he can, because she is powerless and there's nothing she can do that doesn't make her look bad. She can't get back at him without hurting the children, he is holding his children to ransom.
This is what many men are like, any opportunity they see to exploit a woman and they're in there like a rat up a drain pipe.

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