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Child unwell on school trip

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G172125 · 03/04/2024 19:43

My son is currently on a school trip to Disneyland. He started to feel unwell with stomach pains and vomiting. He got split up from he’s group and was left alone in Disney village. I managed to get hold of the teacher to let her know and she said she would go to him. My son then text me and said she said she Can’t go to him because she is queuing for a ride. Nobody bothered to go look for my son for two hours. Aibu to make a complaint about this and take it further?

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SmokedPaprikaPuffs · 03/04/2024 20:30

I think the teacher should have taken him back to his hotel room to make sure he was safe and near a bed/toilet, and maybe got him a glass of water.

I was recently unwell with a stomach bug and only left my bed to go to the bathroom and dh was bringing me lucozade to drink so the replies saying he's 16 and should have been fine are a bit harsh. Of all the places to start vomiting, in the middle of disneyland would be awful.

MartinsSpareCalculator · 03/04/2024 20:30

What? Why can't he just text his mates, find out where they are and go there?

A 16yr old shouldn't need a teacher to come and hold their hand.

AnxiousRabbit · 03/04/2024 20:30

G172125 · 03/04/2024 19:57

Yes she was queuing for a ride. None of the other teachers came to look for him either. The was no meeting point just a number to keep in contact. The kids are allowed go around the parks without a teacher

Yes that's normal. They are 16 and capable of going round the park..no-one would look for him unless he didn't make a rendezvous which may be a few hours later.

And I appreciate he is unwell but depending on how bad and what he said it may be reasonable to say I will be there in 30 minutes or similar.
Ultimately the teacher is not going to be able to do much and he's already at the toilets.

Which park is it?

crumblepuppy · 03/04/2024 20:30

I have teenagers and I am pretty sure all of them would get in touch with me in this situation if they’d already tried the teacher with luck. To have a stomach bug while away from home isn’t fun at any age. My kids wouldn’t really expect me to be able to help as such but they might call for some moral support. They’re all perfectly capable kids but they also know I do care about how they’re getting on.

EdgarsTale · 03/04/2024 20:29

G172125 · 03/04/2024 20:16

i Don’t agree with this at all. All the the children from year 8 to 11 are walking around the park alone. The teachers have got to go on a trip to Disneyland. There is no option to get back to the hotel it’s a coach drive away. From the pictures posted on there social media it looks as though the teachers are going around the park together

Teachers could afford to go to Disneyland without needing a free school trip. They’ve given up part of their holiday to take these pupils.

I think I’d want the teachers side of this story before getting stroppy.

Azandme · 03/04/2024 20:29

G172125 · 03/04/2024 19:53

Just turned 16, year 11. First time in a foreign country . The teacher new the situation and he’s location but was to busy on her holiday to bother. He spoke to her on the phone.

I would get both sides of the story before I took this as fact.

I spent a LOT of time queueing on trips to Alton Towers and I often couldn't leave the queue either - because I was supporting a disabled learner.

If it did happen exactly as your ds said, then yes, that's poor and I'd be speaking to the school, but if it was something like "I can't come right now, I'm in a queue with X, he's already waited an hour and this is one of the accessible rides, shall I ring Miss Y or do you think you'll be OK?" which then got relayed as "She's in a queue and won't come!" then I wouldn't.

Definitely more info needed.

NewName24 · 03/04/2024 20:28

CorvusPurpureus · 03/04/2024 20:07

It doesn't sound brilliantly organised.

Whenever I've done theme park trips, two teachers have been stationed somewhere central (usually cracking on with work on laptops at a cafe) & students know to go there if they get separated from their friends, are unwell etc.

If a student needs a teacher to go & find them in a dire emergency, one does that whilst the other stays put.

I would still expect a 16yo with a dicky tum to be able to find somewhere quiet to sit on his phone for a bit, though.

& yes to 'year 11s, Easter, on a jolly, wtaf?!'

This.

I bet, if we heard from others (incl staff and other pupils) on the trip, there would be quite a different side to this whole story.

ComeAlongPeggy · 03/04/2024 20:28

The teachers are not getting a jolly to Disneyland. It’s hard work being responsible for children. I’d question the school for prioritising Disneyland before GCSE’s (or any year tbh - where’s the educational value?!) because it’s not “just two days” - children are always exhausted for a day or two when they get back.

I would be SO unimpressed if that was the school trip offered to my children.

SkyBloo · 03/04/2024 20:28

At 16 the teachers are only really there so there's a responsible adult in an emergency/to coordinate things with travel/accomodation.

Lots of 16 year olds go on holiday with friends. When i was in year 11 i went to Greece with friends, no parents!

Your DS would probably be mortified by your references to "children".

tinytemper66 · 03/04/2024 20:28

tinytemper66 · 03/04/2024 20:27

Tell him to go to the medical centre. Then get him to give you the number if the teachers what's app and you contact her and tell her where he is. It in poor show. I have taken trips all i"over the world and wouldn't have left a child on their own, no matter their age.

Sorry spelling errors...

NewName24 · 03/04/2024 20:27

OnceUponARainbow88 · 03/04/2024 20:06

So to clarify… the school has taken a bunch of year 11s to Disney land just before exam season? Sorry; I’ve worked in some very disorganised schools and even they wouldn’t do this…!

I can't get my head round this either

tinytemper66 · 03/04/2024 20:27

Tell him to go to the medical centre. Then get him to give you the number if the teachers what's app and you contact her and tell her where he is. It in poor show. I have taken trips all i"over the world and wouldn't have left a child on their own, no matter their age.

Iwasafool · 03/04/2024 20:26

TheSnowyOwl · 03/04/2024 19:50

If he is genuinely in agony he needs to go to hospital, not sit on a park bench.

How was he able to contact you and not his teacher or friends?

So just take himself off? Wouldn't teachers get a bit stressed if kids just disappeared? Would he have his passport or EHIC card?

NewName24 · 03/04/2024 20:26

XelaM · 03/04/2024 20:07

Omg at 16 calling his mum in another country instead of the teacher/his friends/going to medical centre etc etc etc. This is ridiculous and quite embarrassing for a 16-year-old not being able to deal with this himself

Have to agree with this.

EarringsandLipstick · 03/04/2024 20:26

ManchesterBeatrice · 03/04/2024 20:24

Glad the teachers are enjoying themselves, small perks for a hellish job.

That's ridiculous. They of course should be available to a sick student.

Every school trip I've had experience of, teachers would be. As mentioned by a teacher upthread.

MoserRothOrangeandAlmond · 03/04/2024 20:25

As someone who chaperones children as part of a dance school. I have been involved in a couple of trips abroad with the school including Disneyland Paris where we were performing.
At aged 16 they go off and do their own thing. It's expected that if they get lost they go to the information centre or medical centre then ring the appropriate number as all of us are with younger pupils.
They were expected to arrive at the changing rooms etc on time to get ready to perform and also to meet at the bus ready for leaving.
It's drilled into them that they should stay together in a group and not to leave anyone.
I was chaperoning the under 16s.

If he's managed to contact you...what about his friends that are there? Has something happened and they have had a fall out.

Is it just that the teacher can't come right away? And is contacting another teacher? I can understand if the teacher has spoken with him....assured he was ok...then said I'll be with you when I can assuming she cannot leave the children under 16 in a queue alone.

CorvusPurpureus · 03/04/2024 20:25

mylittleitalianhome · 03/04/2024 20:10

I would be pissed off about this too op. Whether he’s 16 or 26, if you go on a group trip you’d expect someone to show an ounce of empathy and help get you back to the hotel. Especially as it’s actually the teachers’ job - they’re not there for a free jolly.

They're giving up their own holiday. These trips don't take place in term time.

They run IF teachers volunteer - which often means that they incur costs such as their own childcare, on top of losing down time, time with their own families...

None of that means we shouldn't look after the kids as responsibly as we do in term time, but if I'm honest, it's not easy to persuade colleagues to give up their holidays to look after a horde of teens for free.

'It's actually the teachers' job' isn't helpful in this respect. They don't have to do it.

I love residential trips! But if I run one, it certainly isn't a jolly.

G172125 · 03/04/2024 20:25

RedHelenB · 03/04/2024 20:24

You've made you mind up then.

No just stating the facts

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ManchesterBeatrice · 03/04/2024 20:24

Glad the teachers are enjoying themselves, small perks for a hellish job.

RedHelenB · 03/04/2024 20:24

G172125 · 03/04/2024 19:53

Just turned 16, year 11. First time in a foreign country . The teacher new the situation and he’s location but was to busy on her holiday to bother. He spoke to her on the phone.

You've made you mind up then.

EmmaEmerald · 03/04/2024 20:23

LIZS · 03/04/2024 20:02

So he could have gone and found the teacher, rather than wait? Most trips dc went on had rendezvous points where a staff member would be posted. Ge had phone contact and could locate someone to help himself if needs be.

If he is in that awful situation where he can’t leave the bathroom then, no he can’t.

OP, I agree that if someone on the trip is unwell and under 18, then a teacher should be keeping an eye on them. And I am not normally one for infantilising anyone.

I hope your son feels better ASAP and can get back to the hotel.

Layla30 · 03/04/2024 20:23

JustWhatWeDontNeed · 03/04/2024 20:16

Why are people doubting the existence of the school trip? Our teens' whole school ski trip is this week. Open to all years. Our two year 11's would've been on it if it wasn't so expensive.

We're going away ourselves next week.

Totally agree with you and if it wasn’t so outing I would tell all the doubters where my local school is taking a group of 40 this time next year. All ages between 12-17 years old on a once in a lifetime opportunity to take part in something!! It would be too much for them to take in 😂

Jeannie88 · 03/04/2024 20:22

On school trips there is always a set return point for students and they also have the teachers' numbers these days. However I'm talking about age group 12 to 13. At age 16 I would expect a friend to accompany or go alone back to the meeting place or call and be advised to do so. Teachers take it in turns to go for a break/help other students so maybe the one he called wasn't at the MP at that time and passed the message on? That seems like the logical explanation, she may well have been in a queue because she wasn't the one on duty at MP at that time. X

AlohaRose · 03/04/2024 20:21

If anyone should be embarrassed, it’s the school for failing one of their pupils to the point he’s had to phone a relative out of the country as he didn’t know what else to do.
Actually the OPs first post indicated that her DS contacted her first and it was she who actually made contact with the teacher in the first instance. Only later did her son text her to say that the teacher wasn't leaving the queue. I still don't know why he didn't call the given number first or contact some of his friends? And I'd still like to know where her DS is now and what is happening? Presumably not still sitting on a bench waiting?

FeelingSoOverwhelmed · 03/04/2024 20:19

I'm a teacher who has done lots of trips abroad (including DLP and Parc Asterix) and our procedures (like many others have said) is to have staff at checkpoints plus a mobile to contact. We don't "crack on with work" though, just find a shady spot to have a coffee.

I'd definitely come and find a kid who was alone and ill, and it is absolutely worth following up on this. Not saying your DS is lying at all but just check the teachers side of things as well in case something's got lost in communication.