JK Rowling and chamber of the new Scottish Laws

Maybe it has and maybe I think this is a fact because its pushed so often by trans people. I really cannot understand though why such a tiny percentage of the population feel they can change the world just for them and why so many fall for it.

I totally agree, I thought my thread was deleted because it was felt I was being unkind to trans, but yes in a nut shell this is a group that are already unstable. Affirming their view is harmful to them and as we have seen also harmful to women on general.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4301205/

Trans people have high co-morbidities with a range of psychiatric disorders.one study suggested narcissistic PD was extremely frequent which I can well believe. Coming from a family with a high rate of psychiatric disorders suicide attempts and threats of suicide are not uncommon, completion however is a lot less common. Had a diagnosis myself with multiple suicide attempts, weirdly there was no-one rushing to affirm me and telling everyone to bend the world to my will to make sure I didn’t actually kill myself.

The point being people with personality disorders are often inherently unstable. Even if it were true that trans people had a higher rate of suicide the extraordinary levels of personality disorders amongst that cohort would suggest that being suicidal would have to do with their other diagnoses rather than being trans.

I don’t think theres enough focus on co-morbidities. It scares the life out of me that kids who should be treated for very real psychiatric problems have been put on the path to transition with the assumption being that the root cause is gender identity rather than it being a symptom of deeper problems.

But that’s not a fact is it? This ‘fact’ has been disproved many times. Maybe that’s why your thread was deleted.

I just tried to post a new thread that I felt was perhaps one of the reasons this law was enacted, that is the fact that the suicide rate for trans people was higher than the average, the thread was deleted, I didn't really get a chance to look at the many responses except one that thought I was a trans person highjacking the site by stealth, I'm not, please see all my other posts. I'm not sure if it was deleted because I cut too close to a nerve or because mumsnetters thought I was not who I proclaimed I was.
However I stated that gender dysphoria was obviously a real thing but that enabling it wasn't the solution because others including myself were obviously going to reject it because myself and others feel biological sex is real, thus setting the person up for failure. That's it.

What does this act aim to achieve that the laws that stood previously could not?

i have yet to find anyone able to answer this question.

If you want to support her but don't particularly like her books, why not donate to Lumos instead? Or is the idea to boost sales figures of her books to counteract the narrative that she has been cancelled?

JKR is far from the only person saying it's a threat to free speech.

I actually can't stand Harry Potter fantasy nonsense, but I've bought every book of hers in the last few years.

Wonderful woman.

Rowling didn't do anything. It was in India Willoughby who reported Rowling's words to the police.

Claiming Rolling's tweets had stirred up a massive amount of hate, two days before the 'stirring up hate' bill was implemented.

Someone was blowing it up into something it isn't, but it wasn't JK Rowling.

I know some people think that women should just lie down when men try to have them arrested for stating reality, but they don't normally advertise themselves on a site read by hundreds of thousands of those women.

Me too! I now have everything she has ever written and in hardback. She's worth every penny.

If it was a non-issue why was anyone worried about it and why did it need clarification to say that It wasn't a hate crime, a non-hate crime log wouldn't be made and that the same applies to Humza too?!!

Whatever else this might be, it's not a non-issue. The implementation and enforcement of this law are both of clear legal and political significance, as is the clarification she's been able to force.

It's not quite accurate: that's from the police scotland hate monster campaign.

whatever anyone's views on gender identity/ideology the Hate Crime Bill is a terribly bad piece of legislation. It is ill-conceived, poorly written and is already completely ineffective. Any with half a brain should have been able to se that it was destined to fail.

Every time she comes under fire like this I buy another of her books.

it isn't a non-issue. But what JKR did from the absolute start of this is make it very clear what could and couldn't be said online, and what would and wouldn't provoke a visit from the plod.

She has done the Scottish government and this law a great favour in getting this all cleared up very quickly and efficiently.

I love JKR. And I can only pleasurably imagine what bad ass barristers she could afford to demonstrate what absolute nonsense this all is.

The law is there to stop hate crime. Rowling is blowing it up into something it is not. This is a non-issue.

Jonathan Pie's take: "the wording of this law is committing its own crime" :)

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It would certainly keep them off the streets for a year or two.

Now most of my knowledge of policing in Scotland comes from reading the works of Ian Rankin, Stuart MacBride and so on. But I’m sure they contain genuine truths and insights. Anyway, in these books, the main protagonist is often under investigation by internal disciplinary teams for some foolishness or misdemeanour. Perhaps this could provide such people with suitable tasks to do until the issue is resolved.

That's the "Maebbe tek action - what dae ye think, Shug?" tray.

As long as that pending tray looks like an industrial shredding bin , I'm happy tbh.