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AIBU to go off sick before I am?

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Ihaveneedofwaternear · 02/04/2024 16:43

I think I'm close to burnout or a bit of a breakdown or something. My anxiety is getting worse and worse, I'm finding myself starting to detach from things, which is usually a sign it's getting really bad. I'm permanently exhausted and easily overwhelmed. My performance at work is suffering.

This has happened before, and I just kept going and going until eventually one morning in work I just couldn't function. I went to see my manager, burst in to tears, and ended up going off sick for 2 months.

I've had a block of therapy with a psychologist, which was really helpful. I've reflected and considered what triggers my anxiety, what I need to stay healthy etc. But it's very hard with young kids and a job (albeit part time) to actually do those things. My anxiety has been up and down a lot since I went off (1.5yrs ago now), and I've tried to keep working on it and putting strategies in place and things. But it's not working now, and I feel like I'm heading for the point of going off again.

I feel like a need a complete break to reset a bit, reflect a bit more on why I keep getting to this point, do some of the things I know will help (organise life, exercise, healthy eating and good routines), and mainly just rest. Rest my mind and body.

How do you get that break? I can't afford to use annual leave coz I need it all for the kids holidays. But I'm not sick, so is sick leave completely unethical?

I know we could all do with a break like this. But I really feel like I'm going to not be able to keep going without ending up sick anyway, and in worse shape mentally.

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LimeFish · 02/04/2024 22:25

I had a role that due to the amount of work which caused me lots of stress I came close to burnout. I arranged to change role, so didn't take sick leave. However it took me a couple of years to recover. Anything a bit stressful in my next role would spike anxiety. Even if nothing stressful was happening I'd get down days or a horrible feeling in the evening when I was relaxing and didn't have anything to distract me. I think I'm still a bit more anxious than I was when younger but now cope with work fine again (and have been promoted since) and haven't had any noticeable down days for a year or so I think. It takes time to retrain your brain not to overreact once the source of the stress is removed. So perhaps some of it is a hangover from last time, coupled with not having time for yourself. I work part time but don't have to do childcare on my day off which I really need as time to myself.

ShoNuff · 02/04/2024 21:59

I’ve recently done exactly this. I took a week off sick because I could feel burn out coming and, having done the opposite and powered through several years ago, resulting in a breakdown and nearly a year out of work, I’m just not doing that to myself again.

For me, because I’ve caught it early this time, that week has completely sorted me out. I pretty much slept and watched TV the entire time - just a complete mind shutdown - and it worked. I feel ready to return and strong enough to put some boundaries and self care back into my routine. I had to step off the treadmill and rest my frazzled brain before I could think clearly enough to do that.

If you need it, do it.

Potterpot · 02/04/2024 21:59

OP, take time off. You need and deserve to put yourself first. They’d replace you in an instant but to your family there is only one you. Don’t let yourself get worse. Even if you just give yourself a week, to see how you go

Potterpot · 02/04/2024 21:58

brocollilover · 02/04/2024 17:57

you went off for two months with stress 1.5 years ago? and sick time i. between?

it’s possible that this job simply isn’t for you

Why did you have to advance search her? This is why I name change so much.

Candleabra · 02/04/2024 21:55

It sounds like you’re on a treadmill of life with no break. Work doesn’t sound like the root cause. You need to sort out some downtime in a normal day. Do you do anything nice just for you? Hobbies, exercise, anything fun?

Hurukan · 02/04/2024 21:50

I have the greatest sympathy and completely understand the need for a break but if you go off sick suddenly it will really affect clinical care of patients.

For everyone saying just take the time off I hope they all consider that when their NHS appointment is canceled or postponed for the nth time or are complaining about waiting lists and bad management.

Could you have an open and honest conversation with your manager and see if there is a solution that would help you but also mitigate problems with service delivery ? You then can also talk about how to prevent this building up in the future !

MumInBrussels · 02/04/2024 21:49

When you take sick leave because you're physically ill, you don't only take it when you have something life threatening, do you? You take it when it's making you feel too rough to work, so that you can rest and get better quicker.

Similarly, you don't have to wait until you're at crisis point before you're "ill enough" to take sick leave, just because it's mental health not physical health. If you feel like time off will help you get better, that's what sick leave is for, if you ask me...

Anotherdayanotherdollar · 02/04/2024 21:40

How much rest will you actually get when you go sick? Will you still be doing all the school runs, wife work and general mental load?

Wordsofthewise · 02/04/2024 21:29

Your post really resonates with me; at times while reading it felt like we’re living parallel lives. I think we’re in very similar professions and our day-to-day are strikingly similar!

I was going to write a whole bit etc. but all I think that matters right now, is your well-being. Take the time off. Sleep, eat, rest, have a bath, do the admin that’s keeping you up at night. Whatever it is, take the time you need. I bet if any of your colleagues came to you with this, you’d likely advise them to do the same without hesitation.

Give yourself the same grace you would to others. You deserve it! And if you need any further encouragement, remember how you care for yourself, serves as an example for the little ones around us on how to prioritise self-care.

Take care 💐

Ihaveneedofwaternear · 02/04/2024 21:06

I had blood tests about 2 years ago, a couple of months before I ended up going off work last time, to rule out a physical cause because I felt so dreadful, and I also came down with shingles so doctors wanted to explore a bit more. All fine, apart from what ended up being a minor autoimmune issue, which only affects my skin. But maybe it's worth revisiting. Sometimes I wonder if my last pregnancy kicked my into perimenopause or something, coz I've not been the same since!

Thanks for your kind comments, @OurChristmasMiracle. I don't get much time for myself, but I do feel that's sort of what you signed up for as a parent in these early years. And I also thought all parents used all their annual leave for the school hols, coz there's so many of them. My eldest is only in his second year of school now, so last year was the first time I had to use my AL for the school hols, and it was a bit of a shock! But what else can you do?

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ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 02/04/2024 20:57

Have you had a blood test recently?

Something as simple as a large vitamin deficiency can cause this sort of anxiety, brian fog & exhaustion.

I still think you should take leave but get a blood test too.

OurChristmasMiracle · 02/04/2024 20:49

When was the last time you did something for yourself? And by yourself I mean something that was of no benefit to anyone else? How often do you take that time?

Just because to the outside you have an “easy” life that doesn’t necessarily make it easy. You are balancing being mum,wife and employee- in a challenging and draining environment. That is a lot to juggle! And I’m sure the cleaning and washing and cooking and shopping all do themselves too!!

You’re allowed to be burnt out and tbh I’m not surprised if you only use annual leave to look after the kids and never actually get any break for yourself!

Ihaveneedofwaternear · 02/04/2024 20:40

Thank you @OurChristmasMiracle, I appreciate the point you make.

There is nothing wrong with my life and it's not too much. I love my job, it's a great balance of stimulation and gratifying, work are flexible, great coworkers. I love my kids, I love my husband, we don't have any real worries apart from the same general ones we all have.

I don't know why this anxiety is here. I feel like I've been trying for weeks now to get a grip on it, coz I feel it growing. But it's almost like I'm frozen and exhausted, and I find it so hard to have time/energy/brain power to find my way out of it all.

It's not my life that is the problem, it's the anxiety. I just don't know how to get rid of it.

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OurChristmasMiracle · 02/04/2024 20:33

Gently @Ihaveneedofwaternear and you don’t have to answer this but when you did you psychological therapy did you manage to explore the cause of your anxiety as well as coping mechanisms?

it may be helpful to get someone to sit down with you and work out a plan of what you do on work days, what you do on non work days and time for you. (I was taught this by someone who told me they needed to help me get back to being me and I needed to leave work at work and not shut down completely from everyone. He was wise)

Ihaveneedofwaternear · 02/04/2024 20:31

@Sometimeswinning the last thing I want is to make things harder for other people I work with, or compromise patient care. But I need my job, I worked hard for it, and I would be devastated of anxiety took it away. I don't want to be selfish and impact on others

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Ihaveneedofwaternear · 02/04/2024 20:28

I have my toddler on my day off. I work 4 short days, drop kids off, work, then pick my kids up from school/nursery on my way home.

I know what people mean, I feel absolutely pathetic struggling to manage with my easy life. I have no idea why my anxiety is so high, when I have always manage before to work before, full time and long, unsociable hours before I had kids.

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OurChristmasMiracle · 02/04/2024 20:27

Honestly I actually KNOW when I am likely/going to need a break so I book annual leave for those times so I don’t feel overwhelmed and end up sick.

It sounds to me in the here and now that it is too late at this point for you to do this and taking some time off sick/unpaid/leave whatever is necessary for your mental health.

take the time. Get back on track and then work on regular time off for YOU

and don’t be hard on yourself.

brocollilover · 02/04/2024 20:23

what do you do on your two days off?

Sometimeswinning · 02/04/2024 20:20

I think you need to rethink your job. Part time and family life burning you out? It’s not you’re not handling life it’s that you need to rethink it all and what you are doing.

My lovely friend is covering another staff member who is burnt out. She’s completely done in but she refuses to take time off due to the nature of the job. If the other person moved on then someone else could step in. I’m all for putting yourself first but you also need to make choices where you’re not affecting others around you.

tiredofthisshitt · 02/04/2024 20:16

Yes I do on the whole. The exercise and drinking has slipped a little, but I'm able to recognise when this happens and get back on it. Fortunately for me, my employers were incredibly supportive and just had my best interests at heart and that made a massive difference / allayed the guilt I felt.

Ihaveneedofwaternear · 02/04/2024 20:11

tiredofthisshitt · 02/04/2024 16:45

Absolutely not BU. I'd say you're already ill. Mental health is a big deal, and I think it's responsible to take time off before it becomes huge, which will no hopefully mean that you need less time off in the long run.

It happened to me. I knew I was struggling (I work with children so need to be ok). I took 3 weeks off, and worked on getting better - gym, cut out drinking etc) and went back feeling tons better. Not had time off since.

@tiredofthisshitt it's good to hear that your time off helped you. Do you feel like your break helped you get things started that you could then continue once back at work to keep yourself healthy?

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Ihaveneedofwaternear · 02/04/2024 20:10

Thank you, @Birch101 , I hadn't thought about using parental leave for the school holidays. That's also a good way to think about using my AL to get regular breaks/time to look after myself.

I've just read through the replies again and really appreciate hearing how others have taken short periods of time off to get better and avoid a bigger "crash". @ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees helpful to hear from the perspective of someone who (presumably) manages a team.

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Birch101 · 02/04/2024 19:30

You can self certify for a week or go to GP with anxiety concerns

Or if you take the hit finance wise you can take unpaid parental leave for a weeks holiday e.g. during school hols and then use your AL as needed? I had 3 days of AL to take and took 8 weeks of Friday afternoons off (3hrs per week) depending on your situation you might be able to use that time to do some regular self care? Not much but might be good for a run, a decent bath and book etc

Ihaveneedofwaternear · 02/04/2024 18:49

Thanks for all the thoughts. @brocollilover no, no time off since my original 2 months, I just meant I haven't yet got a handle on the anxiety as it's still coming back often at high levels.

I work in the NHS, in a clinical role, 3 days a week. Work itself isn't really the problem, the management is excellent, the pressures of the role are well understood and supported. But it is emotional and requires clinical skills and judgement, attention to detail etc. Last time I went off, I had taken too much on, but was also due to things happening with the kids etc, and my physical health.

I've thought so much about the cause of it - the original cause, from childhood, things that trigger me day to day, what helps, what's makes to worse, what behaviours I might do that could be unhelpful. But sometimes it just arrives as if out of nowhere, and totally overwhelms me.

I've considered whether I should leave work, but I love my job and I'm good at it, and it should be manageable! I never had these problems until after I went back after my second child, but maybe I'm just not able to manage a normal life.

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Alwaystired23 · 02/04/2024 18:16

I don't think yabu. I had an episode of anxiety, I was off work for nearly 3 months. When I look back now, I could see it building. I've learnt the triggers, I took a week off not long ago as I could see what was happening. Luckily, that week off calmed me down, and I was able to go back to work sooner.

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