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To report this? What would happen?

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inbedalready · 01/04/2024 21:19

I work with children in a school, and within earshot of pupils, a colleague called her husband a f*** c...

I was shocked, horrified, don't know what to do. She shouted it 3 times. I don't think kids heard. What will happen to her if I report it?

OP posts:
FrancisSeaton · 02/04/2024 11:20

beatrix1234 · 02/04/2024 11:04

Have you thought about the possibility that maybe he is a fu— g c—t? Maybe she’s at the end of her tether with this guy, maybe he’s an abuser god knows the situation but to tell your manager for this one off when you don’t know the full story is not cool. Like someone said above a letter to her letting her know “walls are thin” is suffice. If the rows with husband were an ongoing thing yes, do report it.

So if you hear a man yelling at his wife that's she's a f-ing c the first thing you're going to think is 'oh well she could be a nightmare'

FrancisSeaton · 02/04/2024 11:19

@Globules don't be so absolutely ridiculous.
I've worked in safeguarding for many years so the little nspcc snippet of information utterly irrelevant to this case isn't needed thanks.
The children weren't there. It was the end of the day. This was not appropriate but would not have caused any harm to any of the children. There is no safeguarding issue whatsoever.
And to add to this absolute bull sh@t now posters are asserting he is a terrible husband and that's why he was being swore at 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

DoreenonTill8 · 02/04/2024 11:19

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 02/04/2024 09:39

Does not matter as she was vile, and disgusting in "earshot" of other people's children who do not expect seriously disgusting language like that spouted around them

OP, report her!

Nicola? Is that you proving your support for the new Stasi legislation in Scotland?

C152 · 02/04/2024 11:17

What is with all the people on here so keen to report everyone else for every tiny thing?

You want to report a couple arguing on the last day of term, after school had finished, when they were in a room by themselves and presumably thought no one could hear them? And you don't think any kids did heard, because they were being rowdy waiting for the bus (in a completely different place from the couple arguing).

Personally I wouldn't do a thing. If it bothered you that much, I would probably have a quiet word with your colleague, mentioning that the walls are quite thin, so others are able to overhear private conversations.

beatrix1234 · 02/04/2024 11:04

Have you thought about the possibility that maybe he is a fu— g c—t? Maybe she’s at the end of her tether with this guy, maybe he’s an abuser god knows the situation but to tell your manager for this one off when you don’t know the full story is not cool. Like someone said above a letter to her letting her know “walls are thin” is suffice. If the rows with husband were an ongoing thing yes, do report it.

ImCamembertTheBigCheese · 02/04/2024 11:04

I wouldn't say anything

StinkyWizzleteets · 02/04/2024 11:00

My guess is he was caught banging the trainee PE teacher again and she’s rightly pissed off.
Mind your own business and loosen grip on those pearls before you strangle yourself

Georgyporky · 02/04/2024 10:57

They probably learnt the words from the kids.😀
Tell them the walls are thin, & you overheard them.

MuscariFan · 02/04/2024 10:56

Onemorefortheroad · 01/04/2024 22:19

Urgh. So you don't think anyone else besides you actually heard them? absolutely don't report this. I'd be far more inclined to check that my colleague was okay first - you have no idea what's going on in other people's lives.

I might be more inclined to check that her husband was OK ...

Am amazed at those saying the kids won't have heard anything they didn't already know. I'm sure they'd be reprimanded for it, so of course the person who is meant to be guiding them and setting an example should be too.

Gettingonmygoat · 02/04/2024 10:52

jengachampion · 01/04/2024 21:25

what was the full context?

seriously ? The context is immaterial, using those words within a school are the issue.

hangingonfordearlife1 · 02/04/2024 10:47

saraclara · 02/04/2024 10:28

Somehow I think that those who are telling OP not to 'snitch' would take a different view if their child came home and said that their teacher/TA/whatever called another adult a fucking cunt.

It was pure luck that the kids (probably) didn't hear.

my kids are older teens and i work in same school so i would find it highly amusing

stayathomer · 02/04/2024 10:36

Bluepetergarden

Have you heard how teens speak ?
Exactly, and they need to start learning it’s not ok. I used to work in a shop where kids as young as 6 would come in and give derogatory comments. We’d say to all of them, you use language like that you’re barred- you won’t be able to buy sweets here anymore. They’d tell us to eff off, we’d say it again, after a while there was no language from them. We’d ask them really innocent stuff, you going to the playground, what’s your favourite thing? Are you playing football? I know a number of their families, is and school were probably the only place they didn’t hear cursing and derogatory remarks as a normal thing. Everyone should normalise more positive speaking and try to get all of this out of society (I know that sounds eye rolly but it’s true!)

Edited to add ironically I’ve told my teenager to stop saying the f word twice in the last hour🙈

Icehockeyflowers · 02/04/2024 10:34

saraclara · 02/04/2024 10:28

Somehow I think that those who are telling OP not to 'snitch' would take a different view if their child came home and said that their teacher/TA/whatever called another adult a fucking cunt.

It was pure luck that the kids (probably) didn't hear.

If it was heard in the office, everyone would be gossiping about it for weeks! It would almost certainly go to HR.

I’d love if all the posters who replied to this thread had to state whether or not they are teachers themselves. The answers are skewed otherwise as MN attracts vast numbers of teachers who jump on every thread that mentions school.

saraclara · 02/04/2024 10:28

Somehow I think that those who are telling OP not to 'snitch' would take a different view if their child came home and said that their teacher/TA/whatever called another adult a fucking cunt.

It was pure luck that the kids (probably) didn't hear.

Globules · 02/04/2024 10:06

FrancisSeaton · 02/04/2024 08:51

Someone has all the gear and no idea
wtf has this got to do with safeguarding?

Quite a lot. It shows a blurring of appropriate boundaries, an inability to remain professional and poor judgement on the location of the argument.

If the OP could hear the raised voices through the wall, there was every chance the children could have done in the classroom on the other side of the room.

learning.nspcc.org.uk/news/2021/october/responding-low-level-concerns-in-education

saraclara · 02/04/2024 09:59

LuluBlakey1 · 01/04/2024 21:48

It is very unprofessional behaviour. A member of staff in a school should not be arguing with another colleague and shouting 'You're a fucking cunt' at them, 3 x, wherever they are at work. The fact that he is her DH and they were in a classroom alone does not make it acceptable.
I know what I would have done as Deputy Head, I know what I would do now as a School Improvement Advisor if I heard it in a school. It needs addressing by a line manager- it's unprofessional and shouldn't happen. It suggests her boundaries are muddied between school/home, or that she has poor self-control.

That. I'm amazed that people are criticising the OP for being concerned about this.

I was a senior teacher for many years, and swearing at a spouse, using those words, while children are on the building would definitely be firmly addressed. Apart from anything else, marital rows should be kept entirely out of any workplace, never mind a school with children present. Colleagues don't need to hear this either.

Bluepetergarden · 02/04/2024 09:55

Op did you ask your colleague if they were ok ?

AliceOlive · 02/04/2024 09:53

How kids speak to each other can’t be a good standard for what they should be hearing from the adult leaders around them.

Bluepetergarden · 02/04/2024 09:52

stayathomer · 02/04/2024 09:47

I wouldn’t report but I can’t believe the amount of people who think it’s okay to curse in a school. School is literally the only place some kids get a break from cursing and the only place they’re shown it’s the norm not to curse. Whatever we joke about cursing there is way to much of it everywhere now and when you think of it most cursing is because someone is angry or being aggressive. Why do kids need to hear that?

Have you heard how teens speak ?

AliceOlive · 02/04/2024 09:52

stayathomer · 02/04/2024 09:47

I wouldn’t report but I can’t believe the amount of people who think it’s okay to curse in a school. School is literally the only place some kids get a break from cursing and the only place they’re shown it’s the norm not to curse. Whatever we joke about cursing there is way to much of it everywhere now and when you think of it most cursing is because someone is angry or being aggressive. Why do kids need to hear that?

Agreed. But the anger worries me so much more than the cursing.

If the husband was the one yelling and cursing at his wife, no one would be saying “he is stressed and has a useless wife.”

I am not in favor of reporting but asking the wife if everything is ok is a good start.

stayathomer · 02/04/2024 09:47

I wouldn’t report but I can’t believe the amount of people who think it’s okay to curse in a school. School is literally the only place some kids get a break from cursing and the only place they’re shown it’s the norm not to curse. Whatever we joke about cursing there is way to much of it everywhere now and when you think of it most cursing is because someone is angry or being aggressive. Why do kids need to hear that?

Andthereyougo · 02/04/2024 09:47

Speak to her.
Ask her if she’s ok and say you heard the language, you don’t think any kids heard but can’t be sure.
It’s up to her then if she chooses to repeat the behaviour.

And if they’re secondary school kids I think they’d soon let it be known if they’d heard.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 02/04/2024 09:47

FrancisSeaton · 02/04/2024 09:44

How do we know her husband is useless? People really should stop projecting on these threads

I thought that and projection is used very often on some threads here.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 02/04/2024 09:45

inbedalready · 01/04/2024 22:12

Thanks for the advice. It's highly unprofessional with kids around. And does sound like she has a lot going on to have this outburst.

What you need to consider is about the "lot going on" - what will happen next time. Things don't often get sorted out overnight.

Do report her and leave it to those in charge to decide as it could be worse next time and what then? Therefore, report and leave it in the hands of those that make decisions

IMO, they will warn her and that warning will put her on alert not to use disgusting language like that again near other peoples kids.

FrancisSeaton · 02/04/2024 09:44

cemetery · 02/04/2024 09:42

'My colleague is human and has a useless husband, should I add to her frustrations by taking petty revenge against her and endangering her employment?' would have been a more honest title for this.

How do we know her husband is useless? People really should stop projecting on these threads