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Ex sending DC back sick?

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nc235 · 01/04/2024 16:00

Is it okay and just part of co-parenting?

50/50 arrangement, 3 DC.

Ex has just taken them on holiday for a week, lovely for them all.

Have been returned today and 2/3 children have sickness and diarrhoea. Oldest child who is a teen says this began on the last night of the holiday.

Ex has not mentioned prior to dropping kids back, we usually get along pretty well although issues historically.

Have not said anything yet, but WIBU to ask why he didn't tell me? And is it reasonable to send them back with a sickness bug or would you usually try and keep that to one house (as I imagine I would do)?

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nc235 · 01/04/2024 21:16

So if they fall ill on my time with D & V it is perfectly acceptable to send them off to his home while still ill because its Dads "time" now? See I wouldn't do that because I wouldn't think it would be in anyone's best interest.

With no consideration for the children's comfort (making them travel while unwell).

And also spreading an unpleasant illness to more people.

I've text my ex and just said politely that it would have been nice to have known so I could have been prepared. He has apologised and said he has a lot of work up catch up on after going away, but does admit he has a sore tummy and "the runs" himself but nothing "unmanageable".

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nc235 · 01/04/2024 21:12

His house is also their "home" Easter Hmm

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JMSA · 01/04/2024 21:03

fieldsofbutterflies · 01/04/2024 16:38

He should have told you, but it wasn't unreasonable for him to send them back home to you.

This.

SockPuppet · 01/04/2024 20:52

I’m actually with you OP. I have 50:50 with my ex. Twice one of our three (teen/primary age) have come down with sickness while with me. I’ve kept them with me longer than the contact arrangement (a) so the child is comfortable and (b) to contain it. Sent them back when well. I keep exh informed how they are and he checks in with the teens himself via phone.

I don’t know how I would feel if they had got sick at his, because I like to be there for them when they are ill, but if I also had a small baby that would probably - like you - be my priority, because it’s more dangerous for small babies, and to avoid me getting it and being unable to care for all of the kids. It would be a tough call though if I felt my older kids just needed me because I’m their mum.

I really think he should have discussed with you the best thing to do here.

Noyesnoyes · 01/04/2024 20:38

YABU!

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 01/04/2024 20:29

He should definitely have mentioned it, yes. Communication costs nothing.

Should he have handed over to you with them ill? It depends on how the two of you do things. It does look like a precedent has been set of not passing on illness to the other household, so in those circumstances I’d have thought he’d give you the option.

I also think there’s something in there being a small baby in your household - usually there’d be consideration given to that factor. Plus the kids might not want to be moved whilst sick.

Otherwise I’d have thought the “norm” would be for kids to go to the other parent anyway because it’s their parent they’re going to.

I’ve been know in the past not to send my kids to their dad whilst sick but that’s because they often don’t want to go there sick, and he doesn’t really look after them properly (crap I know - but I could start a whole thread on that). He would normally send them back here though!

nc235 · 01/04/2024 20:22

I just think that if this was a Dad posting that the children's mother had sent them over ill with D & V with no warning, the mother would be getting slated on here for sending the kids off like that and probably called selfish for not continuing to care for the ill children.

But because a Dad has done it I'm the bad one for questioning if this is right. Because I'm a mum and no matter the arrangement I am the default parent.

I know it's not his "job" to protect my new baby but I don't know it is surely common courtesy to give the heads up so I could prepare at the very least.

D & V is an unpleasant illness and I personally wouldn't want to intentionally spread it.

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YesThatsATurdOnTheRug · 01/04/2024 20:18

We were sent my DSS twice with Covid, he was visibly ill and said he hadn't been allowed to test at his mums. One time it absolutely ruined a long awaited family party as of course we had to cancel once he was in the house, the other time I couldn't see my sister who was in the UK from overseas and comes only once a year.

Not only was it bad for us, it was awful for him as he asked to test when he got to us so was aware of the issues and felt really guilty even though it wasn't at all his fault and we told him that.

We didn't say anything to his mum but it felt really unreasonable of her to not test or give us a heads up. I would have kept them in his situation, or at least told you and asked you and the kids your opinions.

Saymyname28 · 01/04/2024 20:11

DS is still young so I inform ex of illness on drop off but I don't expect to be doing that with teens.

If DS was bed bound, round the clock vomiting then I'd keep him, purely because it wouldnt be fair to him to make him move, but otherwise I'd still send him. It's not really your exes job to protect your new baby from childhood illnesses.

pikkumyy77 · 01/04/2024 20:10

Ok so TELL you ex that it was thoughtless of him to send the children to you sick, without warning, when he knows you are alone with an infant. The least he could have done was given you a head’s up and offered to get you the cleaning and med supplies which you were suddenly going to need and which you had no time or warning to get into the house.

Youcannotbeseriousreally · 01/04/2024 20:09

I would have been furious!! Kids stay put when ill with sickness or covid etc. no one needs that. I don’t allow my step kids with these illnesses either and vice versa - literally no family needs the germs spread about, not to mention the fact that kids that feel shit should be tucked up in bed ; not being dragged about!

fourelementary · 01/04/2024 20:06

Yanbu!! At all. Im annoyed on your behalf. He should have kept them til 48hiurs clear of last persons sickness. Ignorant twat.

nc235 · 01/04/2024 20:03

They aren't little.

I don't think I'm being petty. A heads up at the very least would have been nice.

The children couldn't have let me know. The youngest are year 5 and 6 and don't have phones. The eldest does have a phone but tbh his texts usually consist of one word, typical teenage boy.

We share only one bathroom at my house so difficult I've got two children being sick and diarrhoea and having to disinfect and clean constantly, I also have a small baby to care for alone and I've got terrible anxiety.

In the past, I have kept them when they've become ill on my time (with covid). I gave my ex the option but he opted for it not to be spread into his household, same as a pp has said.

I know the children could bring these things home from school at any point and that happens. I was just querying it as I felt myself that it was a bit unreasonable to knowingly send D & V over without warning. He's a capable parent and it's 50/50.

I haven't said anything to him and I'll just crack on with it. I was just asking but seems IABU so I'll accept that.

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Unexpecteddrivinginstructor · 01/04/2024 19:47

what difference would it have made if he told you prior to dropping them off, oh by the way they are poorly?

She might have had a chance not to hug them when they first came into the house. Get in appropriate medication/ more cleaning supplies this morning while chemist open. Set up rooms for them to camp out in for a few days if needed. It would have been courteous to let OP know. I think it also depends if the ex would knowingly take them if they became ill during OP's time. Having a young baby also makes a difference.

queenofcruises · 01/04/2024 19:34

what difference would it have made if he told you prior to dropping them off, oh by the way they are poorly?.. I'm assuming you are the mother? what did you want him to do, keep them until they were well?

i know my kids when they were little only ever wanted their mom when they were poorly and to be honest, if they were poorly i wanted them home where i could care for them.

i know its sexist and i know all the feminists will jump all over me, but in my eyes, poorly kids need their mum.

i think you are being petty

TimeGrabsYouByTheWrist · 01/04/2024 19:33

Kids get sick. He didn't deliberately make them sick.

Put a face mask on, keep the baby away from them, ventilate the house and wipe down all surfaces and thoroughly clean the bathroom.

PolarPandaBear · 01/04/2024 19:24

Yabu

soupfiend · 01/04/2024 19:22

You're asking two different things

Should he have mentioned they werent well - yess thats good communication and good coparenting to talk to you about their welfare and how they've been

Should they have come home when it was time to come home even they they are ill - depends on what the arrangement and agreements are between you, there is no right or wrong about this, particularly in the light you have a baby with you.

Fantina · 01/04/2024 19:16

When DC are ill during my time with them (ill enough for it to keep them off school for example, not every sniffle) I would inform ex and offer him the option of me keeping hold of them therefore keep the germs to my house, or them going back on time. He generally asks me to keep hold of them. You aren’t unreasonable to want that level of courtesy and my and ex avoid each other as much as possible so it’s not like we have an amicable relationship.

JPGR · 01/04/2024 19:09

nc235 · 01/04/2024 19:03

@JPGR I am breastfeeding, I'm also lone parent so if I get ill it's very very difficult with a little baby as I have no one to help but I know lots of people do it. It's just upset me that it could have been avoidable bringing it into the house.

The responses have made me feel like a terrible mother for even thinking this, but he's a capable parent and has 50/50, parenting is all the time just not "my" time and "your" time. I'm still always their mum I never switch off and I'm always here for them.

I was just thinking the other way around if they fell ill with something like this in my care I'd be keeping them here until better to send back. I know how horrible sickness bugs are and I wouldn't want to knowingly pass it on.

You are definitely not a terrible mother - just trying to do the best for everyone. It would have been considerate of him to have kept the children for a while longer but it sounds like he couldn't wait to get rid. If anyone is the shit parent it is him. The last thing the children needed was to be taken in the car back home when they are vomiting and suffering from upset stomachs. They are old enough to realise that the best thing is for them to stay in their rooms until they are better. For the record I have had a vomiting bug when breastfeeding and - hard as it was - I still continued to breastfeed and didn't lose my milk. Baby didn't get it. Take care of yourself.

nc235 · 01/04/2024 19:03

@JPGR I am breastfeeding, I'm also lone parent so if I get ill it's very very difficult with a little baby as I have no one to help but I know lots of people do it. It's just upset me that it could have been avoidable bringing it into the house.

The responses have made me feel like a terrible mother for even thinking this, but he's a capable parent and has 50/50, parenting is all the time just not "my" time and "your" time. I'm still always their mum I never switch off and I'm always here for them.

I was just thinking the other way around if they fell ill with something like this in my care I'd be keeping them here until better to send back. I know how horrible sickness bugs are and I wouldn't want to knowingly pass it on.

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JPGR · 01/04/2024 18:48

Try and confine them to the bathroom and bedrooms while they are ill. They can have ipads, books, tv, whatever, there. Completely reasonable not to want to spread it throughout the house and for the baby to get it. Or you, especially if you are breastfeeding.

nc235 · 01/04/2024 16:45

He's a perfectly capable parent, if he wasn't it wouldn't be 50/50.

Any general illnesses it wouldn't cross my mind, it's just the fact that it's D & V which generally spreads quickly through a household that I was querying it.

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Spirallingdownwards · 01/04/2024 16:39

If it is your time to have them why wouldn't they come back? Also, the kids are old enough to tell you so unsure why ex needs to? Not something I would get worked up about.

There will be a whole batch of other people who would get the hump if their ex didn't return them on time for their residence time.

fieldsofbutterflies · 01/04/2024 16:38

He should have told you, but it wasn't unreasonable for him to send them back home to you.