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Alternative to PIL Dorset suggestion for my birthday?

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pandarific · 31/03/2024 23:04

I have a milestone birthday coming up. Context is I asked PIL as well as my mum did they want to come on hols with us with our 3 and 5 to - really fancy all inc, Mallorca. They declined, as it’s just not their kind of holiday - no problem at all, they enjoy self catering, I despise it (as for me it’s just same shit different location with kids). So we’re going with my mum, looking forward to it.

PIL have a holiday house in Dorset which we have been to when we still lived in the uk - we live in Europe now. Tonight they suggested that perhaps ‘for my birthday’ they could pay for flights for us to come over and we all go and stay in their holiday home and they could babysit while we go out for a meal. This sounds nice for everyone else involved, but I am so very not keen, for the reasons that the holiday home has no outside space at all, it’s in Dorset and it was pretty boring last time and I’m sure it will be boring this time too, I’m sure the kids will enjoy it but it’s my actual birthday and a milestone one at that so in my heart of hearts I don’t really want to go to alllllll the effort of getting a flight to travel to somewhere I find bloody boring, then traipse around doing kids activities / dispensing snacks etc. This sounds very much like my normal life but with more inconvenience. Its also complicated by 5 yo DS being a handful (he’s on the diagnostic list for ASD).

I think I’m also a bit hurt at this being dressed up as something ‘for me’ when it’s actually just a nice break for them to spend time with the kids - they know I hate self catering, they know why. They know I would love eg… a spa night away, tickets to see a show in London, to visit somewhere I’ve not been before - they know I don’t really enjoy a lot of the drudgery of having small children and that I’m in that phase at the moment, they’re not short of a few bob… so why suggest something they must know I wont actually enjoy myself?

So - MN, I am trying to think of an alternative that they and I would both enjoy and would be nice and allow them to spend time with the kids. I’m conscious they miss them. Any suggestions? DH is being no help and seems to think I’m being U, but I don’t actually like the garden-less holiday home and the (imo) dull location much. I’m sure there are better alternatives.

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MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/04/2024 09:23

rookiemere · 01/04/2024 09:22

But what separate other thing do you think that you will ever do with the ILs to celebrate your birthday? It's clear that you both have very different ideas of enjoyment.

So why not accept the gift as it comes and use the money saved by not having to pay for flights yourself towards the Majorca trip, or another trip of your choosing.

Well then it's not actually a birthday gift and they shouldn't pretend it is one.

toomanyy · 01/04/2024 09:22

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/04/2024 09:18

What about something slightly more blunt?

"Hi Mum and Dad. We'd love to come down to Dorset and spend the weekend together as a family some time, that would be lovely. But this is supposed to be for Panda's birthday which means it should be something she really wants to do. It should be a treat for her, rather than something for the benefit of the whole family. When you have young kids a weekend away in a holiday home is often just more of the same stuff you do at home, in a different location. What Panda would really like for her birthday is to do something completely different. She'd love a weekend in London visiting Kew Gardens and seeing a show."

Much better.

rookiemere · 01/04/2024 09:22

pandarific · 01/04/2024 09:14

I think a gentle reframing would help me feel better about it. If I get DH to say something similar how is this?

‘Hi mum and dad. Sounds fun, probably a bit hectic for a birthday treat for Panda but DC will love it so yes let’s get together in Dorset in the summer. When were you thinking? No need to pay for the flights, we’ll cover those - we’ll do something separate for Panda’s birthday another time.’

But what separate other thing do you think that you will ever do with the ILs to celebrate your birthday? It's clear that you both have very different ideas of enjoyment.

So why not accept the gift as it comes and use the money saved by not having to pay for flights yourself towards the Majorca trip, or another trip of your choosing.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/04/2024 09:18

pandarific · 01/04/2024 09:14

I think a gentle reframing would help me feel better about it. If I get DH to say something similar how is this?

‘Hi mum and dad. Sounds fun, probably a bit hectic for a birthday treat for Panda but DC will love it so yes let’s get together in Dorset in the summer. When were you thinking? No need to pay for the flights, we’ll cover those - we’ll do something separate for Panda’s birthday another time.’

What about something slightly more blunt?

"Hi Mum and Dad. We'd love to come down to Dorset and spend the weekend together as a family some time, that would be lovely. But this is supposed to be for Panda's birthday which means it should be something she really wants to do. It should be a treat for her, rather than something for the benefit of the whole family. When you have young kids a weekend away in a holiday home is often just more of the same stuff you do at home, in a different location. What Panda would really like for her birthday is to do something completely different. She'd love a weekend in London visiting Kew Gardens and seeing a show."

pandarific · 01/04/2024 09:14

I think a gentle reframing would help me feel better about it. If I get DH to say something similar how is this?

‘Hi mum and dad. Sounds fun, probably a bit hectic for a birthday treat for Panda but DC will love it so yes let’s get together in Dorset in the summer. When were you thinking? No need to pay for the flights, we’ll cover those - we’ll do something separate for Panda’s birthday another time.’

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LipstickLil · 01/04/2024 08:50

YANBU and your ILs sound selfish. I really hate it when people give gifts that are actually things they would like themselves, but they know damn well, if they give it ANY thought whatsoever, that it's absolutely NOT what the recipient would want! For your birthday you should have what you want (AI in Majorca). Your ILs declined, because it's not what they want, which is fine (although tbh I think I'd suck it up for a week for the sake of my DIL and spending time with my GC). But having declined, they don't then get to impose their holiday on you. Fuck that!

dottiedodah · 01/04/2024 08:48

R4Rnbowrose Bournemouth isn't exactly pretty!what. 7 miles of sandy beaches,clear seas and plenty of good restaurants. We have thousands of visitors here every year!

Lulu1919 · 01/04/2024 08:48

Where is the holiday home in Dorset ?
I live in Dorset so might be able to help you enjoy it more with some local info on things to do ?

Notquitegrownup2 · 01/04/2024 08:46

Just say no, that doesn't work for us. Would you like to come and see us here instead? The kids are so much comfier in their own home . . .

itsgoingtobeabumpyride · 01/04/2024 08:43

It's not a "treat" for you it's manipulation so the PIL can spend time with DH and your DC.
"We'll pay for your flights and you get free accommodation in our holiday home" that's hard to say no to as you look ungrateful.
They could go to Mallorca and join in the fun but they're quite happy to decline that invitation as it doesn't suit them so otoh you should also be free to decline their invitation.
You need a few more years under your belt, I'm in my 50's, spent most of my life doing things I didn't want to do to please others but now I just say no, it's very freeing!
I would tell DH exactly the reasons you've stated on here and let him sort it, I would not pack up two adults, 2 DC, flights & a car journey to do something that I know I'd hate.
Don't look for a compromise or excuse, say it loud and proud "we're going to Mallorca to celebrate my big birthday and PIL are very welcome but I'm not going to Dorset"
Good luck

hettie · 01/04/2024 08:40

Where is there actual house? You need to turn down Dorset as a 'for your birthday' treat and at the same time arrange a date to go and visit them so they can see the kids tell me there actual house has a garden. I have no idea of your kids needs but taking a 3 and 5: year old (one potentially on the spectrum) to London sounds like another trip of hell tbh....

DoBeDoBeDoDoDo · 01/04/2024 08:20

I wonder for how long the PILs agonised over turning down your invitation to join you in Mallorca? Not long I bet. So don't sweat it OP, likewise they've made a suggestion that isn't your kind of thing so turn it down gracefully but firmly - "thank you for the suggestion, but self catering isn't something we'd consider".

My husband tends to view invitations as obligations and ties himself in knots. When our daughter got engaged her fiancé's parents invited us to stay so we could all meet. The weekend was ok but we're really very different people. After the weekend they phoned and invited us to join them on a villa holiday with some of their friends. We barely knew them and had never met their friends. It was a simple "kind of you to offer but no thank you" from me but DH got so wound up - "it's going to be difficult to say no", "how can we say no?" etc. This is just one example of many.

It's an invitation not a summons, so just gently "It was a kind thought, but not our kind of holiday".

rookiemere · 01/04/2024 08:18

Honestly I think you're being a bit precious.

Yes I get that going to their Airbnb is not really a treat for you, but they want to see you all and are offering to pay for flights. I would go because you know that's what they want. There must be one nice hotel and spa in Dorset for a night away surely. Tell DH as it's allegedly your birthday trip he is in charge of DCs and making sure they don't break anything/taking them out frequently.

PermanentTemporary · 01/04/2024 07:52

Just a message of solidarity. Having spent ten years holidaying with the in-laws or my mum in the UK at their preferred locations I was extremely done by the time it was over - and I don't even mind self-catering (to me hotels with small children are a ballache, but that's my preference not yours and exactly the point!) Taking children to non-child-friendly accommodation- no garden?? - is absolutely shite.

I would say a cheerful no, while reminding them passive-aggressively that they turned down your extremely generous offer of Majorca. Ignore any text nonsense and enjoy your birthday. Then I'd propose London as a separate family trip, not your birthday.

WogansHen · 01/04/2024 07:42

Just joining in on the Dorset dullness. We've been invited to a relatives Airbnb for a family get together.
One night, insufficient beds, journey is four hours one way, has a garden with an unfenced water filled ditch at end not within sightline of the house.
I know it's important for the family to gather, very generous host,etc but it's going to be a long 24hours with a ton of logistics, cooking, cleaning and very little actual having a weather dependant nice time.

innerdesign · 01/04/2024 07:10

Lisiantha · 01/04/2024 00:55

At the risk of sounding crass, I think you need to be careful about budget here. They are only really offering to buy your flights. It would be very rude of you to counter with anything that suggests they spend more money than that. Maybe flights plus hotels and show tickets, or a spa break, is just too expensive.

I think a cheerful "no thank you" would be fine. Or decouple it from your birthday and do the trip for the sake of the kids seeing the GPs, paying for your own flights, in the summer when you can do beach trips etc. You could even get the train up to London and do a couple of days there while you're over, with or without GPs as they or you choose. Or fly into Gatwick instead and top and tail the trip in London. You'd resent it a whole lot less if you were "allowed" (for want of a better word) to see it as a duty rather than a treat.

I think finding compromise accommodation is going to stay difficult for some years. It costs a lot compared with an existing holiday home and your ILs could be quite offended if you insist on staying elsewhere. Your husband pulling his weight on catering and bedtimes can help a lot towards making SC a bit more of a break for you.

Yes exactly. The fact OP says 'they’re not short of a few bob…' sounds like she feels entitled to have more spent on her than they've offered.

Delphiniumandlupins · 01/04/2024 02:16

Do your PiL know that you hate self-catering holidays (they may feel that inviting you to stay with them is a break for you), Dorset and their holiday home? As they presumably like the holiday home and its location, they may think they are offering you a treat. You can decline their offer, of course.

WhamBamThankU · 01/04/2024 01:12

Can't they come to you for a weekend and babysit?

Floralnomad · 01/04/2024 01:07

Why don’t you just be honest with them and say that you would love to do something with them but not their holiday home as it’s really not very practical with the kids at this age . Then either give them some alternatives or let them suggest something . This way it’s an excuse that can last for years . Where do the PIL live usually , is that nice ?

crumblingschools · 01/04/2024 01:06

I assume if they rent it out it is in a reasonably nice part of Dorset. There are some lovely places in Dorset. I would go there and use it as a base so you can go off and do your own thing whilst DH and in-laws look after the kids.

Lisiantha · 01/04/2024 00:55

At the risk of sounding crass, I think you need to be careful about budget here. They are only really offering to buy your flights. It would be very rude of you to counter with anything that suggests they spend more money than that. Maybe flights plus hotels and show tickets, or a spa break, is just too expensive.

I think a cheerful "no thank you" would be fine. Or decouple it from your birthday and do the trip for the sake of the kids seeing the GPs, paying for your own flights, in the summer when you can do beach trips etc. You could even get the train up to London and do a couple of days there while you're over, with or without GPs as they or you choose. Or fly into Gatwick instead and top and tail the trip in London. You'd resent it a whole lot less if you were "allowed" (for want of a better word) to see it as a duty rather than a treat.

I think finding compromise accommodation is going to stay difficult for some years. It costs a lot compared with an existing holiday home and your ILs could be quite offended if you insist on staying elsewhere. Your husband pulling his weight on catering and bedtimes can help a lot towards making SC a bit more of a break for you.

RawBloomers · 01/04/2024 00:34

Can you not just say “You know that’s not really my thing, PiL. But we could do it for your birthday in xxx, if you like?”

Then you have the obligatory family trip, which I assume you occasionally make anyway, planned out AND you cover doing something for their birthday too.

GrumpyPanda · 01/04/2024 00:28

CheapMustard · 31/03/2024 23:53

So sorry. I hate to be rude, but honestly you’re sounding a bit bratty.
You live in Europe, you have Mallorca, Dorset is fabulous… it would be odd if they have a holiday home somewhere quite dreadful. Maybe ask for some Dorset pointers from here. You’re a lucky lady, enjoy!

You're being ridiculous. OP isn't "bratty" for feeling less than enthusiastic about a holiday her PIL want to give themselves using the pretext of her birthday.

OP - why not book something fabulous near where you are for your actual birthday, then DH takes the kids separately sometime you have work obligations. Just tell them thanks but nit this time.

pandarific · 01/04/2024 00:28

Thanks all. I will consider overnight whether I suggest London instead, get DH to say he and I will bring kids for a holiday with them there, but it won’t be for my birthday as [self evident PITA for us] so let’s do this separate thing for that, or I just breezily say no thanks no annual leave left or something. Lots to think about.

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Saintmariesleuth · 01/04/2024 00:26

@pandarific I don't think you are being bratty at all. Let the in laws pout a bit, I think bright and cheery will lessen the pout and sulking period (although I would enjoy the silence). Better to politely put your foot down than go on an awful trip and probably snap at them then. Will DH have you your back on this?

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