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Husband on phone the whole fucking time he’s with the children

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Hormonalorjustified · 31/03/2024 20:49

I’m heavily pregnant and extremely hormonal so want to check I’m not overreacting…

DH has been getting up early with our small children throughout my pregnancy. Amazing - what a great dad. So helpful for me to have an extra 1-2 hours in bed. Right?

except that I’ve just learnt that day in, day out, he is, from 5am-7am, just watching YouTube videos on his phone. And they are short videos, 2-3 mins long (eg about football or tv shows or films). So it’s not something he has on in the background (which tbh I also wouldn’t find ideal as 1 and 3 year old need supervision and attention and it isn’t setting the best example/they aren’t allowed screen time in the morning). He has just been actively doomscrolling and watching stuff for hours on end. For months.

I am a SAHM and I have to say this just isn’t parenting for me. I found out he was doing this for a window at the beginning of my pregnancy, explained I didn’t think this was alright and if he didn’t feel up to getting up I would rather do it myself/not do this. He said he understood/agreed. So I trusted him
not to do it. And I find out he has all along!

I totally get some people have different bars for what they do/let their children do and I am not judging for that but AIBU to think I should be able to trust my husband to do what we fucking agreed with our children?! I feel like an idiot I would have rather been up at 5am myself. It explains a lot of things too - DS having a bump etc and him not knowing how it happened, or me sometimes waking up to hear DS communicating but not able to hear my husband responding for several minutes.

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JulietCaesar · 01/04/2024 10:32

I hope you are not looking after the kids at the moment considering you are clearly distracted from watching them

Westernesse · 01/04/2024 10:32

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It’s 5 fucking AM. He is not subservient or accountable to her in how he spends that time managing children, especially when she won’t get out of bed.

Italianita · 01/04/2024 10:26

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Howbizarre22 · 01/04/2024 10:18

MissLucyx · 31/03/2024 21:09

No she isn’t. I’ve seen videos of child psychologists talking about how harmful it is to very young children to have a parent just stare at an object and not engage with them at all. The child has no idea why they’re being ignored, it’s cold and neglectful to them.

Agreed. Look I totally get how hard it is and we are all glued to our phones/ (actually mini computers) these days. Banking, shopping, communicating, planning- literally everything is on there and I try my best to not show my daughter that I need to be looking at this thing all the time however it’s unavoidable at times.
What is avoidable however is being on it watching meaningless crap 24/7 where your children are present-harmful to them as they are being ignored & almost neglected -it’s teaching them they are not worthy of their parent’s attention as much as the damn thing in his hand he is constantly staring at, the parent is not really present or interested in them. A couple minutes while they engrossed in something-ok….the entire time he’s with them- absolutely not ok. Pretty disgraceful in fact. I’m annoyed for you OP.

Westernesse · 01/04/2024 10:13

dimllaishebiaith · 01/04/2024 10:04

Oooooooh okay that explains an awful lot more

No it doesn’t. It’s completely made up. I have never said anything like that and it is not my view.

Westernesse · 01/04/2024 10:12

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You’ve got to be fucking kidding me. I said no such thing, ever. That is sick.

Cittrn · 01/04/2024 10:09

Hi OP,
I think it is easy to get caught up on lots of issues here.
I have done the full time mum for a few years and also now I work full time. I could not function at 5am on a weekend day now - there is no way I could use this time constructively with my kids nor could I bear for this time slot to be my only quality time with the kids in the week as it would be a total waste for me - I simply cannot function properly at 5am since going back to work full-time and would probably be in the same position as DH.
Does DH spend time with the kids alone at another time? If not, perhaps this can be incorporated elsewhere in the routine so he has a fighting chance to spend some quality time with less phone temptation? 5am is just not a quality time together time slot.

DH obviously supports you getting up with the children. Perhaps he is struggling in his own way (as we all are in the parenting journey at some point) and just wanting a bit of escapism. I get you asked him not to use his phone so much and you feel let down. Perhaps some compromise to be had here?

I would be very careful about steaming in and taking over as you put it. I did this all the time in the early days out of sheer frustration and it did more damage to the relationship than I could have anticipated. I realised I wasn't making space for another way of doing things, and pushed an agenda of what seemed right to me. This made DH feel useless, and he retreated away.

I get what you are saying about him perhaps not interacting with the kids at all. This isn't really ok and perhaps this is really the thing you are worried about here? I have noticed with many DHs that they don't have the same responses to babies and toddlers as they do to slightly older children. Everyone is different, but I notice this in many cases. Perhaps that might be the part to gently focus on, rather than anything else he may or may not be doing to try and get through this phase of life.

So, are you being unreasonable? Not exactly. It sounds like you have a genuine concern about the kids being ignored when they ask for something. Have you let your frustration take over - possibly?

Remember DH has his own ways of doing things which are very valuable for the kids too. On this occasion maybe it's easier to let it go on the basis it is 2hrs and it is in my view unrealistic to expect quality time to be had at 5am. I totally get the frustration and concern, but there will be other benefits to the kids of having to be independent in those hours.

Perhaps the one thing you need to work on with DH in some way is the being "available" if they ask him something, regardless of what he is doing. However, he may realise if he is too available the kids will want to involve him in their games, which is also not what he probably wants at 5am! Ultimately, I am still learning from my DH how to step back and let my kids be independent, but he had taught me A LOT about that, and I will say there is ever such a fine line between leaving them to be independent and ignoring them.

Perhaps DH needs some additional time with the kids at a time when he has a fighting chance of doing some awesome parenting and spending quality time :)

Wishing you all the best xxx

EarthSight · 01/04/2024 10:07

lanabana · 31/03/2024 21:08

Thing I was getting up at 5am while DH lay in bed for another 2 hours I would be mightily annoyed if he started dictating to me what I should do with that time. 5am risers are hell and there are another 12 or so hours on their days to be doing productive stuff with/for them. Sorry OP but I think YABU here

It's not a great comparison. Did you miss the part that said the OP's heavily pregnant??

tillylula · 01/04/2024 10:06

Mine is the same, except its at night time. Mine don't go to bed til late no matter what I've tried, and I end up staying awake because he won't acknowledge them while on PC, so i totally understand how pissed you are. However.. He would never dream of getting up with them every morning so consider yourself lucky!

Crumpleton · 01/04/2024 10:05

Caravaggiouch · 01/04/2024 09:55

You said: “I can't get past the fact at the ages of 1 and 3 they also have ipads.
But then I suppose that's what it is this day and age.”

There was zero evidence that these children have their own iPads on which to base your pearl clutching.

Who is advocating do as I say not as I do? I wouldn’t have bought an iPad for my child, and at that age she’d probably have broken it. But we are not anti-screen time and she has used tablets plenty of times and watches TV. There’s no hypocrisy in any of that.

I'm asking you where I have put in writing in my post...and I quote from what you have stared I did

which is what you claimed was the root of all evil in the world today…

MorningSunshineSparkles · 01/04/2024 10:05

@LastSeenInSanFrancisco we run pumpkins out of our neighbourhood in my town. We don’t suffer them. Just another way of calling a spade a spade without getting booted for it.

dimllaishebiaith · 01/04/2024 10:04

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Oooooooh okay that explains an awful lot more

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needsomewarmsunshine · 01/04/2024 10:02

FFS, How did I manage my dc 5am risers before mobiles were invented? They had a video on [over 26years ago] 🙂and I would watch with them for awhile and then we'd cuddle up and doze on the seatee.

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Westernesse · 01/04/2024 10:00

MorningSunshineSparkles · 01/04/2024 10:00

@Westernesse you come across as a bit of a pumpkin 🎃

Fair doos! 😆

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 01/04/2024 10:00

Some people can mulit-task, some cant
Me, I just cant stand people on their mobiles almost 24/7. So, I'm with the OP

lanabana · 01/04/2024 10:00

@Westernesse

It’s hard to picture the OP bouncing out of bed at 7am and taking over cheerily until bedtime.

I'm not understanding your point. I never suggested this.

Westernesse · 01/04/2024 10:00

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reported.

MorningSunshineSparkles · 01/04/2024 10:00

@Westernesse you come across as a bit of a pumpkin 🎃

Westernesse · 01/04/2024 09:58

dimllaishebiaith · 01/04/2024 09:56

I've stated facts based off previous interactions on threads with you where you have repeatedly called women deranged and talked about being a man etc. But I've also never seen a rule about no singling out or blaming, but that's interesting you think there is one given how vitrolic (blaming) you are being about the OP

I have no doubt you like the last word, so for clarity, I won't be responding again even though I have no doubt you will try to goad me into doing so.

You are targeting me personally and also lying with ad hominem personal attacks.

disagree with anything I am saying by all means but stop the personal attacks please.

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dimllaishebiaith · 01/04/2024 09:57

Hownowbrownsheep · 01/04/2024 09:55

This basically sums up the thread.

Despite masses of evidence of the harm of parental smartphone usage, recognising this fact is an inconvenient threat to precious scrolling time. So PPs would rather ignore the actual problem of deceit and lack of shared parenting values and pile on the OP, lest they admit that they are pschologically damaging their children.

Children cannot tell the time. Making mornings sedate and un-exciting does not necessitate parental phone use. She is not asking him to behave like Mary Poppins, she is asking him to stop harming their baby and toddler and has even offered to take over the graveyard shift if he is incapable of doing this.

This

dimllaishebiaith · 01/04/2024 09:56

Westernesse · 01/04/2024 09:54

Please abide by the rules of this forum. No singling out or blaming.

thank you.

I've stated facts based off previous interactions on threads with you where you have repeatedly called women deranged and talked about being a man etc. But I've also never seen a rule about no singling out or blaming, but that's interesting you think there is one given how vitrolic (blaming) you are being about the OP

I have no doubt you like the last word, so for clarity, I won't be responding again even though I have no doubt you will try to goad me into doing so.

MorningSunshineSparkles · 01/04/2024 09:56

He is their parent and entitled to parent them in whatever way he wishes - if you didn’t agree with his parenting style why have three kids with him? You unfortunately cannot dictate what another adult does with their own children, even if they are being neglectful