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Husband on phone the whole fucking time he’s with the children

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Hormonalorjustified · 31/03/2024 20:49

I’m heavily pregnant and extremely hormonal so want to check I’m not overreacting…

DH has been getting up early with our small children throughout my pregnancy. Amazing - what a great dad. So helpful for me to have an extra 1-2 hours in bed. Right?

except that I’ve just learnt that day in, day out, he is, from 5am-7am, just watching YouTube videos on his phone. And they are short videos, 2-3 mins long (eg about football or tv shows or films). So it’s not something he has on in the background (which tbh I also wouldn’t find ideal as 1 and 3 year old need supervision and attention and it isn’t setting the best example/they aren’t allowed screen time in the morning). He has just been actively doomscrolling and watching stuff for hours on end. For months.

I am a SAHM and I have to say this just isn’t parenting for me. I found out he was doing this for a window at the beginning of my pregnancy, explained I didn’t think this was alright and if he didn’t feel up to getting up I would rather do it myself/not do this. He said he understood/agreed. So I trusted him
not to do it. And I find out he has all along!

I totally get some people have different bars for what they do/let their children do and I am not judging for that but AIBU to think I should be able to trust my husband to do what we fucking agreed with our children?! I feel like an idiot I would have rather been up at 5am myself. It explains a lot of things too - DS having a bump etc and him not knowing how it happened, or me sometimes waking up to hear DS communicating but not able to hear my husband responding for several minutes.

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Nanny0gg · 31/03/2024 23:51

EmilyTjP · 31/03/2024 22:55

Just get up with them then. Do you both a favour.

YABU and sound overbearing and controlling. How did you even discover what he was doing during this time? Checking his phone?

Asking him how one DC bumped his head and her DH didn't know

Hearing the DC talking to him and him not responding.

Dullardmullard · 31/03/2024 23:39

Are you all missing the point 5-7 is the ONLY time he spends with the kids.

court mandated?
weekends with dad

yeah right not happening as his 2 hour slot he has he’s barely there anyways. Accidents are happening because he isn’t parenting he’s aimlessly scrolling on his phone.

oh and he’s doing her favour please he’s a parent to not the bloody hired help

Goinggreymammy · 31/03/2024 23:33

You are missing the point when posters say if you continue like this you will cause your marriage to end and you say you dont mind having them 100% of the time. The thing is, your husband will have court mandated access to his children and can spend that time with them as he wishes, once they are safe and fed. And then you won't be able to monitor what he does or dictate how he entertains them, would the thought of that not make you despair more?

If you separate you may have to get work outside the home and your children may need a minder or creche. You won't be able to dictate to that caregiver to spend 100% of their time interacting with your children.

BTW, you said they are "playing unsupervised". Unless you live in a mansion an adult in a downstairs open plan area or next room would be able to supervise children playing, even if also scrolling on a phone.

MissLucyx · 31/03/2024 23:32

ttcat37 · 31/03/2024 23:25

Why do you get to dictate to him how you each parent the children? He clearly doesn’t care about your no tv rule. You don’t sound terribly approachable if he doesn’t agree either. No wonder he’s been doing it and not saying anything.

You’re clearly on your gadgets all the time. He’s neglecting the kids she should care.

MustBeGinOclock · 31/03/2024 23:32

OP will have something to say im sure. But why ask if you don't like replies that disagree with your opinion.
YABU.
He's their father leave him to parent as he sees fit why should you dictate what he does?! You must be a nightmare to live with!

ttcat37 · 31/03/2024 23:25

Why do you get to dictate to him how you each parent the children? He clearly doesn’t care about your no tv rule. You don’t sound terribly approachable if he doesn’t agree either. No wonder he’s been doing it and not saying anything.

Twolittleloves · 31/03/2024 23:22

I think if he is on his phone for those couple of hours that early but is tending to their needs in a 'good enough' way- fine.

If he is not tending to their needs properly during those hours due to being on his phone, or is also spending most of his time generally around them on his phone rather than giving them any attention- not OK.

Chitterlina · 31/03/2024 23:04

Hormonalorjustified · 31/03/2024 21:21

I’m not suggesting he needs to entertain them. He could sit there with his coffee and just watch them and chip in - that’s what I did. The point is that he is engaging and actually supervising.

and by the way, the logic isn’t the same. Screen times are addictive and so they do get up to watch tv if they are allowed.

He’s their dad.

Why do you get to decide how he wants to “parent” at 5am?

He probably thinks he’s doing you a big favour because you’re exhausted and wrung out (just a hunch) and here you are criticising the poor guy.

WholeMe · 31/03/2024 22:57

NaughtPoppy · 31/03/2024 21:31

I used to put the tv on and go back to sleep on the sofa if my eldest woke early at this age!
By the 2nd child we had an iPad so would let this watch it in our bed while we dozed.

Pre-7am is too early to do parenting in my opinion.

Exactly what I did when my youngest ones used to wake at a ridiculous time every morning, take them downstairs to avoid waking the older ones, put Frozen on (yes, every morning 🙄😂) and then I’d doze on the sofa!

EmilyTjP · 31/03/2024 22:55

Hormonalorjustified · 31/03/2024 21:10

But did you miss that I would be getting up with them happily to avoid this?

Just get up with them then. Do you both a favour.

YABU and sound overbearing and controlling. How did you even discover what he was doing during this time? Checking his phone?

Samlewis96 · 31/03/2024 22:49

Hormonalorjustified · 31/03/2024 22:04

Any ideas re getting a 1 year old to stay in bed I would love to hear! I feel we have tried everything but happy to try more 😃

Won't she go back to sleep if you put her in bed with you?

Samlewis96 · 31/03/2024 22:42

Hormonalorjustified · 31/03/2024 22:02

this is a valid point - does that happen if you leave the phone screen unlocked? And they are unrelated videos?

Yes I've looked up a video on YT , played it then put phone down to go and make a cuppa or something. Return to find it's playing through random videos by itself

Dullardmullard · 31/03/2024 22:41

I’m laughing and totally missing the point of this thread sleep train a child to sleep beyond their time which the now is 5 yeah right not every child will be “trained” they’re not dogs.

MeinKraft · 31/03/2024 22:30

I think you're making a big mistake insisting on getting up at 5 yourself now. The resentment about that will build and build, and you're already talking about divorce. Screen time isn't great for kids but do you really think divorce is a better option for them?!

Glass113 · 31/03/2024 22:28

Ok not the point of the thread but this level of Internet monitoring is insane!

FatChance14 · 31/03/2024 22:19

Hormonalorjustified · 31/03/2024 22:16

I think screen addiction/lack of engagement and lazy parenting from Parents plays an enormous part in behavioural issues yes.

as does an abundance of screen time. Screens are not the same as basic tv - iPad and YouTube etc are extremely addictive and cause behavioural issues.

there is a scale - I think iPads and screens cause a colossal amount of damage. It’s all part of a cycle/problem.

But I do need to stop replying and sleep!

Yes, there is a certain irony to you posting non-stop for an hour and a half!

I'd be interested to see which studies you're referring to where a connection between adults having too much screen time and their children having behavioural issues is proved. Can you share links?

Mayflower282 · 31/03/2024 22:19

Sorry not relevant to your post, but curious what time they go to bed…5am seems ridiculously early!

Hormonalorjustified · 31/03/2024 22:16

Crabble · 31/03/2024 22:12

Can you see the difference between thinking it’s sub-optimal your husband does this, and thinking stuff like this is the reason “teachers are on their knees”?

It’s not the fact you don’t like him doing this, it’s the hyperbole that comes along with it. My parenting is based on my life experience too but I don’t “despair” of loving (I assume) parents doing something I think is a bit lax, or blame them for a fall in behaviour in society given that there are so many children out there who are genuinely neglected.

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I think screen addiction/lack of engagement and lazy parenting from Parents plays an enormous part in behavioural issues yes.

as does an abundance of screen time. Screens are not the same as basic tv - iPad and YouTube etc are extremely addictive and cause behavioural issues.

there is a scale - I think iPads and screens cause a colossal amount of damage. It’s all part of a cycle/problem.

But I do need to stop replying and sleep!

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JennyBeanR · 31/03/2024 22:15

Also, I'd be absolutely livid if my partner was checking my internet history like this.

As another poster pointed out, you've made light on what it would be like if you were divorced, but in that situation he'd have the kids in his house and you wouldn't have the ability to check his phone.

StormingNorman · 31/03/2024 22:13

There seem to be a couple of things here

You are disappointed he doesn’t actively engage with your DC in the same way you do, you feel he’s broken your trust and you’re worried about screen addiction.

It seems to me he just wants an easy life and ‘agreed’ to reducing his screen time to keep you happy. He’s trying to look after you.

Allmarbleslost · 31/03/2024 22:12

When mine were little and up at 5am they were put infront of the TV while I drank coffee and tried to wake up. YABU.

Crabble · 31/03/2024 22:12

Hormonalorjustified · 31/03/2024 22:06

my Life is sheltered, yes, but it’s all relative and my parenting is based on my own life and standards. Like everyone else’s.

Can you see the difference between thinking it’s sub-optimal your husband does this, and thinking stuff like this is the reason “teachers are on their knees”?

It’s not the fact you don’t like him doing this, it’s the hyperbole that comes along with it. My parenting is based on my life experience too but I don’t “despair” of loving (I assume) parents doing something I think is a bit lax, or blame them for a fall in behaviour in society given that there are so many children out there who are genuinely neglected.

AgingDisgracefullyHere · 31/03/2024 22:10

Dacadactyl · 31/03/2024 22:09

If a woman was parenting like this and her DH was on here complaining, I'd agree with him.

Well, at least you'd be consistently wrong.

Dacadactyl · 31/03/2024 22:09

AgingDisgracefullyHere · 31/03/2024 22:08

Can you imagine the howls of outrage if we were talking about a husband monitoring his wife's phone usage and complaining she's not parenting right?

If a woman was parenting like this and her DH was on here complaining, I'd agree with him.

Hormonalorjustified · 31/03/2024 22:09

stripes92 · 31/03/2024 22:07

YABU 5am is still nighttime imo and if I had to be awake I'd be mindlessly scrolling too, that's way too early for involved parenting. Get a Groclock and train your children to stay in bed til 7am.

We have gro clocks! We have all the things - works for the eldest but not the youngest.

there are a few things I suspect that I put in place that DH may not have been following that haven’t been helping. Eg not feeding them immediately when they wake up - he probably has been ans so their body clock will think 5am = food.

anywya I’d better go to sleep now as I’m up at 5 🤣 thanks for the opinions everyone, it is good to hear different perspectives

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