To think we should all stop tipping now?

I get 16 weeks of a year and get paid for that hence the 2 50 per hr coming out of my wages pro rata

How is £2.50 being taken out of your wages to pay for your holiday?

Service now seems to be automatically added to restaurant bills. We had £17 added to a Sunday lunch bill for 3 a fortnight ago and a massive (I think) £27.50 added to our meal for 4 earlier today.

i don’t mind tipping but I do object to having the choice withdrawn, or at least made difficult for me. I think I’m aware of the value of good service and perfectly capable of working it out for myself.

I stopped tipping a while ago. On the rare occasions I eat out, you order with a QR code now or at the bar. I’m not tipping soneone just to carry a plate to my table. That’s a bit half arsed.

If you can find vacancies were I live for a few hours here and there not realistic

You could work elsewhere though? Holiday club, tutoring, hospitality if you already have some hours on the side as Easter, Christmas, summer are busy times. An agency teacher I know picks up bar work.

Tipping has always been optional in the UK. I tip my Uber drivers because the pay is awful, I tip service staff if the service was very good.

If you can no longer afford to tip and believe that minimum wage is getting to close to your wage then you need to consider it your employer values you, perhaps a new job or career progression is in order. If your own wage has stagnated it might be due to any number or reasons or even industry specific, but that isn't a good enough reason to demand that service staff deserve less.

You stop tipping if you like. I’ll continue to tip, unless the service is really poor. They’re still low paid and do a difficult, thankless job, and I can afford it. Let’s spread it around a bit.

No not working in the holidays the price I pay is at least £2.50 is taken for every hr worked

You aren't working the holidays though are you? Unless you are employed by an agency as a teacher but still have work to do at home?

Key thing there being still minimum wage…its not liveable, especially single or single parents.

roughly equals if they work 40h a week it works out about £23k a year which is still well bellow the national average of currently £34k(?) and again the industry is usually paid by the hour, zero hour contracts potentially, little or no sick pay for a day off etc. ive family who work in the industry and when one broke their leg the company (big multi million pound company) they were only entitled to statutory gov sick pay

i also hate the term unskilled. I have 2 degrees and a cushy (stressful af job now) but have also worked in those labelled as “unskilled” including hospitality, care worker, and cleaner and personally think theres way more skill involved and the stress from the jobs than people think, as well as poor pay only added to the stress. I was younger so got the younger rate but lived alone with no family support or financial help so the tips sometimes meant “ooo i can put £10 on the electric” as opposed to sit in the dark.

some rely on those tips (not as much as the US) but the late nights, the constant need to put on a face they deserve those tips theres so much to juggle and remember. And if i ever hear an argument “they should get a better job” if everyone did that who would there then be left.

everyone deserves a liveable wage, this increase is not. Percentage wise it may seem a lot but the reality is very different. Sooo keep tipping.

You think £6.40 is fair?

And they get paid well for it. No-one tips me in my Government admin job. Or my friend in her busy and hectic GP surgery Receptionist job, OR my cousin who is a busy and frazzled nurse. I have not 'tipped' a soul for about 10 years now. No-one deserves a tip more than anyone else. Everyone works hard!

@MuggedByReality YANBU. 'Tipping' needs binning. I find it naff and coarse now, and smacks of people being showy, and patronising. 'Ooooh I know you are poor let me help support you.' Ewwwww, how condescending. 😖 Suggests you think the person 'serving' you is beneath you.

But by normalising it, you’re creating a precedent for everyone, and not everyone is as blessed as you financially. It’s awkward and humiliating if an extra £2 on top of the bill is just too much.

@Whatevershallidowithmylife you do realise that school workers do not get paid for holidays.

Minimum wage goes up and the price you pay for services goes up. So no one is better off.

I only ever tip the young girl who washes my hair in the hair dressers. I never tip anyone else.

That’s a good point that teens don’t earn anywhere near the max minimum wage.

It's not a living wage though is it?
Try living off that alone and paying everything yourself including a mortgage/rent
You'll get 25% off your council tax but all the other bills are down to you

That’s quite a neat guideline 😊

Many people would argue that if you can't afford to pay your staff a living wage, you don't actually have a viable business.

I don’t tip. I just don’t get that tipping malarkey.

The minimum wage is now set at a level at which it provides fair & reasonable pay for unskilled service industry work. Therefore tipping such workers is no longer necessary or appropriate

YABU for thinking minimum wage is fair and reasonable, and also for thanking the government for doing the absolute bare minimum to make it look like they’ve solved a problem that they created. I’ll keep tipping because in my opinion
it is both necessary and appropriate.

I've never tipped anyone in the UK. It's not remotely necessary.

I never tip but DP overtips so I make it even. For the PP school worker yes but you do get considerably more holidays than the 28 mandatory days which include BH. I would rather have your holidays! All summer, Easter and Christmas alone must be what 50 days?