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To think we should all stop tipping now?

208 replies

MuggedByReality · 31/03/2024 17:13

Tomorrow the minimum wage increases to £11.44 per hour. That’s an increase of 9.8%. It also increased by 9.7% last year. Inflation is currently 4.5%.

This is obviously a very good thing for millions of workers in low paid employment across the country and, whatever else the government has got wrong, it deserves credit for pushing through such large increases.

The minimum wage is now set at a level at which it provides fair & reasonable pay for unskilled service industry work. Therefore tipping such workers is no longer necessary or appropriate, so I won’t be tipping anyone anywhere from now on. AIBU?

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DodoTired · 31/03/2024 21:32

Containerhome · 31/03/2024 20:24

I own restaurants and hate the tipping. We pay our staff over minimum wage and they still all argue over tips. Organising it is extra faff too plus taxes to sort out. I would rather it didn't exist! Not to be mean but we pay them between 12 and 15 an hour and they get all their meals free. We are flexible with shift changes and always happy to help them outside of work too
For example help when moving etc.

Bit tips actually bring out the mean side of people!

You can ban them. There are restaurants which clearly say on the menu, table cards and bill that they are no tipping restaurants because they pay their staff at minimum living wage. Eg restaurant on the top of Tate Modern in London

Nicetobenice67 · 31/03/2024 21:18

Nicetobenice67 · 31/03/2024 21:15

Yes you have explained it correct but it’s still the same as taking money from your hourly rate to pay the holidays

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i didn’t mean literally take the money if you have extensive experience you would have known what I was talking about instead of trying to belittle me

Nicetobenice67 · 31/03/2024 21:16

Nicetobenice67 · 31/03/2024 21:15

Yes you have explained it correct but it’s still the same as taking money from your hourly rate to pay the holidays

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Except I have longer holidays think we work 36it’s private

Luddite26 · 31/03/2024 21:16

I always tip my hairdresser and usually tip in cafes and restaurants if the staff have been pleasant.

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 31/03/2024 21:15

BobnLen · 31/03/2024 21:11

It wouldn't be a great loss nowadays anyway

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If remember you now, from another thread. You’re just a miserable goady twat.

Nicetobenice67 · 31/03/2024 21:15

StripeyDeckchair · 31/03/2024 21:13

Can you please explain this.

I have extensive experience auditing school accounts and I have never seen a school take money off staff.

If you are a member of support staff working term time only (TTO) you will work 39 weeks per year and be paid 44.6 weeks pay per year (thanks to Harpur v Brazel) ie 5.6 weeks holiday & bank holiday pay.

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Yes you have explained it correct but it’s still the same as taking money from your hourly rate to pay the holidays

mumda · 31/03/2024 21:14

Do other wages increase as a result of minimum wage increasing?

HurryupHenry · 31/03/2024 21:14

BobnLen · 31/03/2024 19:18

I don't use restaurants as most have such poor service...

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You are obviously eating in the wrong restaurants!

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 31/03/2024 21:14

needsomewarmsunshine · 31/03/2024 20:26

Never have tipped anyone, feels like I would be paying the underlings and that doesn't sit well with me.

The underlings won’t care 😆

StripeyDeckchair · 31/03/2024 21:13

Nicetobenice67 · 31/03/2024 17:20

I work in a school and because I have the holidays it takes at least 2.50 PER HOUR out of my wages to pay for the holidays …so that means my hourly rate is brought down by at least 2.50 an hour

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Can you please explain this.

I have extensive experience auditing school accounts and I have never seen a school take money off staff.

If you are a member of support staff working term time only (TTO) you will work 39 weeks per year and be paid 44.6 weeks pay per year (thanks to Harpur v Brazel) ie 5.6 weeks holiday & bank holiday pay.

BobnLen · 31/03/2024 21:11

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 31/03/2024 21:04

If all service workers did that they’d be no restaurants. People in hospitality do it for all sorts of reasons, stupid, tone deaf response.

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It wouldn't be a great loss nowadays anyway

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 31/03/2024 21:10

BobnLen · 31/03/2024 19:18

I don't use restaurants as most have such poor service...

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Because they see you coming.

Nicetobenice67 · 31/03/2024 21:09

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 31/03/2024 21:04

If all service workers did that they’d be no restaurants. People in hospitality do it for all sorts of reasons, stupid, tone deaf response.

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Wow get a better job ….how fucking shallow and rude

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 31/03/2024 21:06

MrsTerryPratchett · 31/03/2024 19:13

What's your hourly OP?

I’d love to know!

GingerPirate · 31/03/2024 21:05

Oh, OP, I stopped about ten years ago.....

whynotwhatknot · 31/03/2024 21:05

i do sometimes hairdresser nails taxi-not all resturants depends on service i get
i dont think 11.64 is enoug to live on though

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 31/03/2024 21:04

BobnLen · 31/03/2024 19:07

Maybe get a better job then.

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If all service workers did that they’d be no restaurants. People in hospitality do it for all sorts of reasons, stupid, tone deaf response.

Prometheus · 31/03/2024 21:02

My sister works in the civil service assessing asylum seeker claims. Her annual salary divided by the hours she works is minimum wage. No one tips her.

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 31/03/2024 20:59

trippily · 31/03/2024 19:06

I work in hospitality. It is shit hours, seasonal work and requires a huge amount of bowing and scraping. That's why we are tipped. Because we make you feel special and important. Nobody else does that for minimum wage.

Exactly, it’s not hard to understand !

HurryupHenry · 31/03/2024 20:56

I don’t tip because the person might be on a low wage, I tip because of good service.

DS is a waiter in a nice restaurant. His tips are quite often more than his wages especially in the summer.

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 31/03/2024 20:55

WindowBlindsUp · 31/03/2024 18:30

You stop tipping if you like. I’ll continue to tip, unless the service is really poor. They’re still low paid and do a difficult, thankless job, and I can afford it. Let’s spread it around a bit.

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I agree. I can’t understand why it’s such a problem.

AngelQuartz · 31/03/2024 20:55

BobnLen · 31/03/2024 19:07

Maybe get a better job then.

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Such an unnecessary and patronising comment.

TurnTheTap · 31/03/2024 20:50

LumpyandBumps · 31/03/2024 20:40

I normally tip serving staff in restaurants. I’ve always done so and don’t see a reason to stop. Sometimes the staff make the difference between a mediocre experience and a good one. I do however get the ‘service charge’ removed and just make a single payment rather than a percentage. It’s no harder to carry a plate with an expensive steak than it is an omelette.

I often tip taxi drivers, especially when they point out landmarks, etc.

I have never tipped grocery delivery drivers, or the man who delivers my oil, but do tip for large items such as furniture. It’s hard to say why I tip some and not others. It’s just what I’ve always done.

I will never add a tip when ordering at the counter. If it am standing there ordering I think I should have the tip - plus at that stage I have no idea what the food will be like, or how long I will have to wait.

I think this is my point, and I’m not criticising you, this is a societal thing, but why do we tip someone who delivers pizza or the taxi driver but not the one who delivers groceries?

It’s bizarre how we’ve decided some get and others don’t but as you say, we can’t actually explain why?

LumpyandBumps · 31/03/2024 20:40

I normally tip serving staff in restaurants. I’ve always done so and don’t see a reason to stop. Sometimes the staff make the difference between a mediocre experience and a good one. I do however get the ‘service charge’ removed and just make a single payment rather than a percentage. It’s no harder to carry a plate with an expensive steak than it is an omelette.

I often tip taxi drivers, especially when they point out landmarks, etc.

I have never tipped grocery delivery drivers, or the man who delivers my oil, but do tip for large items such as furniture. It’s hard to say why I tip some and not others. It’s just what I’ve always done.

I will never add a tip when ordering at the counter. If it am standing there ordering I think I should have the tip - plus at that stage I have no idea what the food will be like, or how long I will have to wait.

Samlewis96 · 31/03/2024 20:38

trippily · 31/03/2024 19:31

And yes that poster IS implying people working in hospitality are more deserving of tips than anyone else

Not more deserving exactly, certainly there are harder jobs paid minimum wage. I think it is the personal interaction at play, the caring nature of the service which is why we are tipped.

Does that not apply to care staff as well then?