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Or is DS?

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AllPrincessAnneshorses · 31/03/2024 14:54

We have helped DS buy a flat with a substantial interest free loan (about 45% of the purchase) rest from inheritance from DM. He is now saying he must have a freehold property and is planning to move 100+ miles from his work and commute in as he is in office only 2 days of 5 as he can't afford a freehold anywhere nearer. He lives with gf who is long term sick, unsure how much she contributes financially as they won't discuss it with us.
I feel a flat is fine just for the two of them. Would consider upping the loan ( we can't give the extra money outright or would have to do the same for his brother, also there's imo a risk that he could be financially exploited) so he could get a two bed flat nearer in but he insists it's freehold or nothing.
For context he is autistic, finally (took a few years) in regular work but not that well paid. He meets all expenses but obviously is rent free which in the SE would be a significant dent. We want him to have a predictable and secure home but feel this is unrealistic and will cost him far, far more in fares and increased running costs than he saves in service charges. He appears to assume freehold is always best, end of story.
How can I word this so as to get it factual and non-accusatory? Any impediment to or questioning of his plans usually results in a strop and doubling down on original intentions.
Or do we need to accept his plans and let him find out on his own?

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AllPrincessAnneshorses · 31/03/2024 15:10

MolkosTeenageAngst · 31/03/2024 15:08

If he can’t afford it then how will he buy it? From your post it sounds like the reason he’s moving away from you is so that he can afford the kind of property he wants? It sounds like your issue is that he’s moving away from you but as an adult he has the right to move away from his hometown if he wishes to.

He doesn't live in our home town, he's 20+ miles away. He can't afford the rail fares of £4-500 a month from his proposed places on top of increased heating, council tax etc.
My issue is nothing to do with distance.

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Mummame2222 · 31/03/2024 15:09

AllPrincessAnneshorses · 31/03/2024 15:05

Yes, he's not ungrateful so much as only focused on one aspect, we feel to his potential detriment.

He complains about an hour commute now. The places he wants would be two and a half minimum each way

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Clearly his ASD is an issue here so it’s not just as simple as allowing him to make a huge, naive mistake.

My son has ASD, I’m not sure I’d pay tens of thousands of £s for him to go forward with this plan. However he’s an adult and entitled to his choices, it’s an extremely difficult situation for you to navigate. Overall, I think I would be pulling out if I were you.

MolkosTeenageAngst · 31/03/2024 15:08

AllPrincessAnneshorses · 31/03/2024 15:04

But he can't afford it. Surely mortgage company would want to check that, why can't we?

If he can’t afford it then how will he buy it? From your post it sounds like the reason he’s moving away from you is so that he can afford the kind of property he wants? It sounds like your issue is that he’s moving away from you but as an adult he has the right to move away from his hometown if he wishes to.

AllPrincessAnneshorses · 31/03/2024 15:05

Mummame2222 · 31/03/2024 15:03

I was going to say he’s and adult so it’s his decision but after you’re update it’s quite clear he’s pretty naive. Not ungrateful like PP said, that’s quite harsh.

Yes, he's not ungrateful so much as only focused on one aspect, we feel to his potential detriment.

He complains about an hour commute now. The places he wants would be two and a half minimum each way

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AllPrincessAnneshorses · 31/03/2024 15:04

MolkosTeenageAngst · 31/03/2024 15:00

Assuming he’s an adult then it’s up to him what kind of home he wishes to purchase, it’s not really any of your business. The fact you’re loaning money is irrelevant, it’s unreasonable if your loan come with a list of caveats regarding where he can or can’t live. He’s an adult so yes, obviously you need to accept his plans and find his own way.

But he can't afford it. Surely mortgage company would want to check that, why can't we?

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Mummame2222 · 31/03/2024 15:03

AllPrincessAnneshorses · 31/03/2024 15:02

I think he hasn't really thought it through tbh. Or assumes he can just choose not to get work done. We have told him how much certain works to our house have cost but he just says he'll get a more modern one which won't need repairs

I was going to say he’s and adult so it’s his decision but after you’re update it’s quite clear he’s pretty naive. Not ungrateful like PP said, that’s quite harsh.

AllPrincessAnneshorses · 31/03/2024 15:02

Howaboutthats · 31/03/2024 14:58

Well he sounds ungrateful. I wonder if he realises that if he's freehold and the building needs work he has to cover the cost. Maybe say you won't be funding that.

I think he hasn't really thought it through tbh. Or assumes he can just choose not to get work done. We have told him how much certain works to our house have cost but he just says he'll get a more modern one which won't need repairs

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MolkosTeenageAngst · 31/03/2024 15:00

Assuming he’s an adult then it’s up to him what kind of home he wishes to purchase, it’s not really any of your business. The fact you’re loaning money is irrelevant, it’s unreasonable if your loan come with a list of caveats regarding where he can or can’t live. He’s an adult so yes, obviously you need to accept his plans and find his own way.

AllPrincessAnneshorses · 31/03/2024 14:59

@Zapx perhaps. He has some target towns, only one of which he has ever visited for more than a day, prices in them do vary.

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Howaboutthats · 31/03/2024 14:58

Well he sounds ungrateful. I wonder if he realises that if he's freehold and the building needs work he has to cover the cost. Maybe say you won't be funding that.

Zapx · 31/03/2024 14:57

Would he need you to increase your current loan to him in order to do this move?