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to not understand why people spend money to pollute their homes with pointless chemicals?

563 replies

tomorrowisanotherdate · 30/03/2024 19:26

scent boosters, to go in laundry, air fresheners that squirt puffs of pollutants at you - the tv is full of adverts for these things, so presumably someone is buying them. I just don't get it though. Loading your family's home atmosphere with a load of unnecessary and unpleasant air pollutants, and paying for the privilege? Why?

OP posts:
Tedaaaaaaaaah · 31/03/2024 11:11

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 31/03/2024 09:45

It’s nothing like smoking.

If you vaped natural oils you’d do yourself just as much damage as vaping any air freshener.

And if you think ‘craft’ businesses and pushers of ‘natural’ products who scaremonger about big business will do you no harm…well.

As is often said in a different context about ‘complementary’ medicine, “better big pharma than woo harma”.

I don’t think ‘craft’ businesses are inherently better. You’re putting words in my mouth.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 31/03/2024 11:11

ImAlwaysknackered · 30/03/2024 23:47

Surely scents are subjective? Bit like beauty is in the eye of beholder? What smells nice to one person might smell gross to the next!

You'd think this was common sense 👏.

But apparently we're all meant to like/dislike the same things.

Wonder if people who avoid these scents also avoid body cream, perfume,
Loo bleach, swimming pools for the chlorine, alcohol, processed food, air travel, car use, etc....
all the stuff that pollutes the environment.

There's always the name calling just because people make different choices, so predictable!

People who use fresheners, eat processed food, drink alcohol or smoke aren't brainless as some have charmingly put it.

Just as an addict knows drugs can kill, they still choose to do it. We have intelligent people in parliament, top of their professions etc taking drugs for one, so being brainless isn't the reason. Nice try.

Most things that are bad for us, we do as they bring us comfort.
So just as no chemicals give you comfort,
it's the reverse for others.

People like different things. It's a choice and unless you're Kim Jon Un, people are free to make their own choices.

LifeofBrienne · 31/03/2024 11:10

I don’t have strong views on the health aspect of artificial air fresheners - after all, as others have pointed out, we all do things that are unhealthy because we like them. I just don’t like the smell!

I like having the air around me and my clothes not to smell of anything much. Then my nose is ‘fresh’, for want of a better term, to appreciate passing smells - a pot of rosemary I just bought from the supermarket, my son’s hair when I cuddle him, the smell of earth when I pot up plants, my nice hand soap, cooking with spices, a freshly poured hoppy beer…

Callisto1 · 31/03/2024 11:09

Both DH and eldest DC hate strong smells so even perfume is out in our house unless it’s applied sparingly.
I don’t like air fresheners, but used to love incense sticks which are definitely forbidden in our house. Apparently the cause headaches 😟

fieldsofbutterflies · 31/03/2024 11:09

Zyq · 31/03/2024 11:04

When I can smell artificial scents like Zoflora, Glade and Fairy scent, I always wonder what nasties they're covering up. They certainly don't smell fresh.

So only artificial scents can be used to cover things up? Confused

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 31/03/2024 11:07

Zyq · 31/03/2024 11:04

When I can smell artificial scents like Zoflora, Glade and Fairy scent, I always wonder what nasties they're covering up. They certainly don't smell fresh.

You can only smell scents you perceive to be 'artificial'?

Zyq · 31/03/2024 11:04

When I can smell artificial scents like Zoflora, Glade and Fairy scent, I always wonder what nasties they're covering up. They certainly don't smell fresh.

comingintomyown · 31/03/2024 10:54

I hate the smell of air freshener in the toilet that someone shat a pine tree stink

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 31/03/2024 10:50

I’m old enough to remember when your house was supposed to smell only of furniture polish, flowers, something baking in the oven, fresh coffee.

Unfortunately there was often some bristly old geezer in a tweedy jacket or a beige cardi with eggs stains down the front, stinking it out with pipe tobacco.

(I used to love the smell of pipe tobacco though!)

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 31/03/2024 10:42

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 30/03/2024 22:33

Oh, right. It was just a chuckle.

If you do use lavender oil and it works please start a thread and spread the word.

@KeinLiebeslied54321 asked if it works, if you don't know, why engage.

I've found deterrents don't work unless you spray absolutely everywhere.
They sidestep the bits with lavender and still come in.

freshairplease · 31/03/2024 10:41

fieldsofbutterflies · 31/03/2024 10:25

Perfume is sprayed sporadically but air fresheners are continuous so much worse in my opinion.

Not necessarily. Some people only use air freshener once a week or so 🤷‍♀️

Yes ok. To clarify, my post is about the continuous air fresheners, e.g. plug-ins.

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 31/03/2024 10:36

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 31/03/2024 10:34

Same for ‘toxic’. In isolation these terms are meaningless.

Agreed.
The greenwashing marketers love using meaningless scary phrases though.

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 31/03/2024 10:34

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 31/03/2024 10:21

Saying something 'is a carcinogen' is kind of pointless if you don't mention dosage/concentration.

Same for ‘toxic’. In isolation these terms are meaningless.

fieldsofbutterflies · 31/03/2024 10:34

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 31/03/2024 10:21

Saying something 'is a carcinogen' is kind of pointless if you don't mention dosage/concentration.

Exactly - even water is toxic in large doses.

Natural isn’t necessarily good just as artificial isn’t necessarily bad.

fieldsofbutterflies · 31/03/2024 10:25

Perfume is sprayed sporadically but air fresheners are continuous so much worse in my opinion.

Not necessarily. Some people only use air freshener once a week or so 🤷‍♀️

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 31/03/2024 10:21

freshairplease · 31/03/2024 10:20

I agree OP. They emit toxic chemicals that are linked with health risks, including formaldehyde and benzene which are carcinogens. They are a known cause of indoor air pollution, raising VOCs. They burn my throat and make me feel nauseous. My mother in law loves them and when we I come home after visiting my clothes and hair stink of them. When she brought some home made brownies they actually tasted of Glade plug-in!
Perfume is sprayed sporadically but air fresheners are continuous so much worse in my opinion.

Saying something 'is a carcinogen' is kind of pointless if you don't mention dosage/concentration.

freshairplease · 31/03/2024 10:20

I agree OP. They emit toxic chemicals that are linked with health risks, including formaldehyde and benzene which are carcinogens. They are a known cause of indoor air pollution, raising VOCs. They burn my throat and make me feel nauseous. My mother in law loves them and when we I come home after visiting my clothes and hair stink of them. When she brought some home made brownies they actually tasted of Glade plug-in!
Perfume is sprayed sporadically but air fresheners are continuous so much worse in my opinion.

fieldsofbutterflies · 31/03/2024 10:19

MrsBuntyS · 31/03/2024 09:56

Just to add, genuinely fragrance free cleaning and body products are very difficult to get hold of and punishingly expensive. I buy them because I have no choice.

Pretty much everything in existence has a scent anyway - it's just a matter of personal taste whether we like it or not.

Nobody is going to use something they actively dislike if they have another choice. Lots of people are going on about lavender oils but that's one of the smells I can't stand so I'm not going to use it no matter how "good" for the environment it might be, lol.

QuickDraining · 31/03/2024 10:18

They woodent sell it if it werent safe, it is tested on five million bunny rabbits first.

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 31/03/2024 10:14

GlitterBall91 · 31/03/2024 10:05

The fairy ones are the best!!

I think they're all far too strong (and unnecessary) but some folk really are struggling with 'each to their own' on this thread!

Josette77 · 31/03/2024 10:14

fieldsofbutterflies · 31/03/2024 10:09

There’s undoubtedly some (not so hidden) snobbery going - essential oils are acceptable but soy candles aren’t. Expensive soaps (that still use artificial scents) are acceptable but cheaper ones aren’t.

Exactly.

I'd even make a case for sexism when it comes to conscious consumerism.

We often target things women are the primary consumers of.

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 31/03/2024 10:09

@tomorrowisanotherdate

Having read all your updates I think your sense of smell works differently to most other people.

Not only do you express how intensely you dislike these smells, you repeatedly state that you can't understand how other people can like these smells. Maybe you actually can't. Maybe they smell differently to you?

It's also unusual hat others liking a smell that you don't should make you so frustrated or even angry.

fieldsofbutterflies · 31/03/2024 10:09

Josette77 · 31/03/2024 09:57

I agree. People really only care about themselves... Some people even wear perfume, can you imagine. PERFUME! The audacity of it all.

I also love how when it comes to environmental impact and fair trade we target Shein and not Apple.

Air fresheners and not coffee.

You see the hypocrisy right?

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There’s undoubtedly some (not so hidden) snobbery going - essential oils are acceptable but soy candles aren’t. Expensive soaps (that still use artificial scents) are acceptable but cheaper ones aren’t.

GlitterBall91 · 31/03/2024 10:05

ImAlwaysknackered · 30/03/2024 19:30

Can’t beat the smell of fairy scent boosters.

forgot this is MN and I should use vinegar in all my washing. Oh and only use natural oils as my candles are actively slowly poisoning me.

💀

The fairy ones are the best!!

ASighMadeOfStone · 31/03/2024 10:02

fieldsofbutterflies · 31/03/2024 09:44

I mean, you could say the same thing about people buying smartphones, or synthetic clothing (which isn't necessarily cheap), or designer handbags - or 1001 other things that aren't strictly essential and that cause damage to our environment.

There isn't a single person out there who is perfect and who never does anything to harm the world around them. So I'm not sure why some people insist on acting so superior when it comes to this one thing.

One of the posters insisting on "only natural" on here is on another thread telling everyone about all the ready meals and processed foods she gets for a fiver down the freezer shop, so I'd agree with you.

I don't buy ready meals. I do buy washing powder that has a fragrance. I don't buy anti bac stuff. I do buy perfume. I've never found a natural deodorant that works for me.

As pp says, nobody is perfect.

The only thing that is scientifically true (meeting Brian Cox or not) is that the myths surrounding, perhaps "natural" are far more harmful than any Glade spray ultimately.

"Clean beauty" is the latest, but thankfully a lot of dermatologists are fighting that one.

@tomorrowisanotherdate how do you feel about sunscreen btw?

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