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to not understand why people spend money to pollute their homes with pointless chemicals?

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tomorrowisanotherdate · 30/03/2024 19:26

scent boosters, to go in laundry, air fresheners that squirt puffs of pollutants at you - the tv is full of adverts for these things, so presumably someone is buying them. I just don't get it though. Loading your family's home atmosphere with a load of unnecessary and unpleasant air pollutants, and paying for the privilege? Why?

OP posts:
iwafs · 30/03/2024 21:23

concernedchild · 30/03/2024 21:19

@iwafs BO is disgusting. If you're walking round stinking then you don't really get a say

Yes of course I get a say, it’s an open forum.

i will repeat that smelling of BO or dog is better than the poison in laundry boosters. And make no mistake, it is poison. Anyone who voluntarily ingests it is foolish.

takemeawayagain · 30/03/2024 21:22

They give me a terrible headache and make me feel pretty ill. I could never go into Lush. I guess some people have a much lower sense of smell though, laundry detergent smells disgusting, really artificial and chemical but so many people seem to love it and think it smells 'clean'.

coldcallerbaiter · 30/03/2024 21:21

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 30/03/2024 20:33

What is the correct way to use the word ‘chemicals’, and how does it differ from incorrect use?

As far as I know everything - solid, liquid or gas - is made of chemicals. But I’m beginning to wonder if I’ve misunderstood all these years and some chemicals aren’t chemicals at all.

People here are being deliberately dumb by saying water and air are chemicals. Right we know, but it’s the context. Food could be called chemicals but you wouldn’t eat soap, bleach or engine oil because they are just chemicals too, and therefore just the same…..

It is not just lavender oils, there are tons of natural oils for sale vanilla, grapefruit, lemon, orange, Clove, sage, rosemary, cinnamon, rose, sandalwood, jasmine, mint…

The chemically cleaners and scents are different, they do not come from the same natural sources.

I avoid the fake scents and go for the oils. I do use bio washing powder and that has a scent in it, but no fabric softener. The only exception I use is bleach, as it removes mould and deep cleans.

Doublechocolatemuffin · 30/03/2024 21:21

I think they smell nice but I'd rather not breathe in chemicals, especially now I have children in the house. I use all natural cleaning products, no air fresheners, no laundry scents etc. I occasionally use essential oils and that's it.

Mintcake84 · 30/03/2024 21:19

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concernedchild · 30/03/2024 21:19

@iwafs BO is disgusting. If you're walking round stinking then you don't really get a say

concernedchild · 30/03/2024 21:19

HelpMeGetThrough · 30/03/2024 21:18

water and human beings are not really air pollutants

I was about 10 minutes ago. 💨

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Did you spray some other pollutants?

HelpMeGetThrough · 30/03/2024 21:18

water and human beings are not really air pollutants

I was about 10 minutes ago. 💨

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 30/03/2024 21:18

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 30/03/2024 21:09

Yes, you’re right. It’s not so much the ‘chemicals’ as ‘pointless’.

I’m unsure what a pointless chemical is. If it does the job of creating a smell that someone likes it’s hard to see how it’s pointless.

I think that we might all be able to find chemicals/substances that are seemingly 'pointless' to us, if we try hard enough. I doubt many chemicals are absolutely pointless though.
OP clearly thinks many scented chemicals/products are pointless (and harmful and toxic).

iwafs · 30/03/2024 21:17

concernedchild · 30/03/2024 21:14

@iwafs and there it is.

You're happy to walk around stinking to prove a point

It isn’t proving any point. I don’t like artificial perfumes.

and why do you think i stink if I wash with soap?

i meant I’d prefer someone else to smell of bo rather than laundry scents that sting my eyes and give me a headache.

crumbledog · 30/03/2024 21:14

They are awful and give me migraines. Catching the faint whiff of a nice smell is a pleasant experience, being hit in the face by a wall of artficial smell is not.
I can’t see how sitting in a confined space inhaling all those toxins can be good for anyone, regardless of any testing that says otherwise.

concernedchild · 30/03/2024 21:14

@iwafs and there it is.

You're happy to walk around stinking to prove a point

iwafs · 30/03/2024 21:13

concernedchild · 30/03/2024 20:50

@iwafs maybe we're just not miserable and enjoy nice smells!

I'm assuming you don't use perfume or deodorant either

I don’t use perfume or deo.

Hate the smell of it all. I’d prefer to smell bo or dog.

Meowandthen · 30/03/2024 21:11

daisychain01 · 30/03/2024 21:09

you're not wrong OP. You only have to look in the supermarkets nowadays, making your home smell like LUSH is big business. It's the equivalent of UPF, but people will ignore all the evidence because it tastes nice (UPF) or it smells nice [home fragrances]? I've stopped buying all the branded washing gels and liquids, they make me feel ill:

Source: https://madesafe.org/pages/mission-vision

Air fresheners are a source of indoor air pollution and either directly emit or cause the formation of numerous substances associated with negative health effects. In studies measuring the different substances that air fresheners emit, researchers have found numerous chemicals associated with toxic effects.

These include: volatile organic compounds (VOCs),[5]benzene,[6] formaldehyde,[7] toluene,[8] m,p-xylene,[9] phthalates,[10] and more. For example, formaldehyde, a known carcinogen, has been measured at high levels. Levels were found to be even higher when air quality was measured during simultaneous use of multiple scented products (cleaning products, air fresheners, and perfume).[11] High concentrations of VOCs[12] have been measured in the emissions from numerous air freshener types too, including sprays, plug-ins, solids, and more.[13]

Apples contain formaldehyde. Best keep away from them.

Meowandthen · 30/03/2024 21:10

I’m fussy about scents and don’t like the standard air fresheners or understand why laundry has to smell so strong.

BUT the anti science claims from some are ridiculous. For those at the back:

Everything is a chemical and poison is in the dosage.

Zoflora is nasty stuff though and there seems to be a bit of an obsession with air fresheners, laundry scents etc judging by the amount of TV adverting I saw when in the UK a few months ago. I found it quite odd.

daisychain01 · 30/03/2024 21:09

you're not wrong OP. You only have to look in the supermarkets nowadays, making your home smell like LUSH is big business. It's the equivalent of UPF, but people will ignore all the evidence because it tastes nice (UPF) or it smells nice [home fragrances]? I've stopped buying all the branded washing gels and liquids, they make me feel ill:

Source: https://madesafe.org/pages/mission-vision

Air fresheners are a source of indoor air pollution and either directly emit or cause the formation of numerous substances associated with negative health effects. In studies measuring the different substances that air fresheners emit, researchers have found numerous chemicals associated with toxic effects.

These include: volatile organic compounds (VOCs),[5]benzene,[6] formaldehyde,[7] toluene,[8] m,p-xylene,[9] phthalates,[10] and more. For example, formaldehyde, a known carcinogen, has been measured at high levels. Levels were found to be even higher when air quality was measured during simultaneous use of multiple scented products (cleaning products, air fresheners, and perfume).[11] High concentrations of VOCs[12] have been measured in the emissions from numerous air freshener types too, including sprays, plug-ins, solids, and more.[13]

Mission / Vision

MADE SAFE® is the only human health and ecosystem-focused product certification program. We do not compromise on ingredient safety. Our mission is to revolutionize how consumer products are made, thereby eliminating the use of harmful chemicals from th...

https://madesafe.org/pages/mission-vision

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 30/03/2024 21:09

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 30/03/2024 21:00

I don't think OP said some compounds were chemicals and some were not, did she?

Yes, you’re right. It’s not so much the ‘chemicals’ as ‘pointless’.

I’m unsure what a pointless chemical is. If it does the job of creating a smell that someone likes it’s hard to see how it’s pointless.

concernedchild · 30/03/2024 21:03

@tomorrowisanotherdate can you provide any sources for this?

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 30/03/2024 21:03

tomorrowisanotherdate · 30/03/2024 21:02

They are classed as pollutants because they are polluting. ie harmful and toxic

How do you know they’re harmful and toxic?

tomorrowisanotherdate · 30/03/2024 21:02

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 30/03/2024 21:01

Yeah, that’s really the gist of it. I doubt there’s any evidence of harm from these products even if some find them unpleasant.

They are classed as pollutants because they are polluting. ie harmful and toxic

OP posts:
tomorrowisanotherdate · 30/03/2024 21:01

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 30/03/2024 20:58

Oh, right. I was just trying to establish what makes some compounds chemicals and other compounds not chemicals.

Nobody anywhere has said any compounds are not chemicals.

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ImAlwaysknackered · 30/03/2024 21:01

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 30/03/2024 20:57

I suspect she's not eating most of them, though might be 'nose blind' to the smell overload.

According to some we don’t need to ingest them for them to poison us with their chemical nastiness.

I do open my windows but we live rurally, the air smells like cow shit/slurry and not at all fresh. 😂

I had to actually ask someone on Vinted what their washing combo was as it smelt so nice. 😁

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 30/03/2024 21:01

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 30/03/2024 20:59

They will have passed rigorous safety tests though, so while many of us don't like them, it's also not realistic to label their use, especially in moderation, as 'harmful and toxic'.

Yeah, that’s really the gist of it. I doubt there’s any evidence of harm from these products even if some find them unpleasant.

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 30/03/2024 21:00

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 30/03/2024 20:58

Oh, right. I was just trying to establish what makes some compounds chemicals and other compounds not chemicals.

I don't think OP said some compounds were chemicals and some were not, did she?

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 30/03/2024 20:59

tomorrowisanotherdate · 30/03/2024 20:56

No Glade plug in is still a pollutant. It doesn't stop being harmful and toxic just because you personally like it

They will have passed rigorous safety tests though, so while many of us don't like them, it's also not realistic to label their use, especially in moderation, as 'harmful and toxic'.