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To have asked him to choose a different sandwich

684 replies

Medsy · 30/03/2024 13:04

Don't know if it's because it's Easter or what but my local co-ops sandwich section was totally barren, only meat sandwiches left (I'm vegetarian). I saw a man go for the last cheese one there was, so I asked him if he was vegetarian and if not, would he mind if I had it? A woman (wife?) appeared and went batshit at me and called me rude.
It made me quite pissed off actually. I wouldn't have a problem with say a gluten free person asking me if they could have the last gluten free sandwich.
WIBU?

OP posts:
Fairymother · 31/03/2024 15:17

I dont know. It doesnt happen everyday that someone grabs the last of something i want right in front of me. So on the odd occasion it does happen i might as well ask for it.

SmileyClare · 31/03/2024 14:55

I was always taught that you can ask for anything as long as you’re polite

Hmm I’m not sure that’s a great rule of thumb for an adult?

I mean you don’t regularly ask shoppers if you can have an item in their basket or trolley do you? Ask the table next to you in a restaurant to give you their chips? Ask colleagues to buy you a drink when you go to the pub? It’s better to read the room, and follow societal norms rather than keep asking and being told No.

I thought most people followed the unwritten rule that you don’t ask shoppers for items in their basket.
Customers don’t generally haggle over who is more deserving of a product, that’s not how shops work, in fact it would be carnage.

It’s not offensive but a supermarket would be Hell if everyone was ignoring this etiquette and asking the person who grabbed the last of anything if they can please have it.
It’s not weird to think it’s a bit rude and self serving.

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 31/03/2024 14:42

Fairymother · 31/03/2024 14:37

People are weird nowadays. Cant talk to anyone anymore without offending them or putting them in an awkward position!

I think it was perfectly reasonable to ask. If someone asked for my sandwich i can either give it up for them and choose another and if i dont want to do that i can just say no 🤷🏻‍♀️
OP didnt demand the sandwich. She asked. The guy could have just told her “No thanks, i really want the cheese one.” No harm done to anyone. I was always taught that you can ask for anything as long as youre polite and prepared to accept a no.

It's fine to chat to folk, that's not the same as trying to get their food for yourself!

Fairymother · 31/03/2024 14:37

People are weird nowadays. Cant talk to anyone anymore without offending them or putting them in an awkward position!

I think it was perfectly reasonable to ask. If someone asked for my sandwich i can either give it up for them and choose another and if i dont want to do that i can just say no 🤷🏻‍♀️
OP didnt demand the sandwich. She asked. The guy could have just told her “No thanks, i really want the cheese one.” No harm done to anyone. I was always taught that you can ask for anything as long as youre polite and prepared to accept a no.

Busybee44 · 31/03/2024 14:08

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 31/03/2024 14:02

I'm not often lost for words but can imagine a wide open mouthed expression if someone asked me for the sandwich (or anything else) I'd already selected!

I know, i am genuinely horrified !!

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 31/03/2024 14:02

Busybee44 · 31/03/2024 13:57

Its very entitled, id be shocked if someone asked me , would tell them where to go!

I'm not often lost for words but can imagine a wide open mouthed expression if someone asked me for the sandwich (or anything else) I'd already selected!

Busybee44 · 31/03/2024 13:57

Its very entitled, id be shocked if someone asked me , would tell them where to go!

tigger1001 · 31/03/2024 13:53

"don't mind being called weird, unhinged or bat shit, but the entitled baffles me! Fair enough if I'd demanded it, but I still don't understand why asking nicely if something is an option would be entitled."

You don't see that asking someone who has picked up something to buy, if you can have it instead, is entitled? Are you really that self absorbed?

They had it - it was no longer available for you to buy. Asking them put them in an awkward situation. It is incredibly entitled behaviour. And the customers wife/partner was right - rude.

ScroogeMcDuckling · 31/03/2024 13:43

Caerulea · 31/03/2024 11:41

Not animal rennet. It's not 1980

actually I was a student in the 70s, and I still have all my facilities to know how to interpret ingredients listings and statistics.

thanks for your input though.

LuckySantangelo35 · 31/03/2024 13:10

Medsy · 31/03/2024 09:10

It shows a mistrust and fear of others/strangers. It also shows that when the option is there to make a connection that might mean everyone leaves happy, Outraged in Surrey would prefer you say nothing at all and leave empty handed with no debate.

@Medsy

lol I do not wanna make a “connection” when I’m trying to do a food shop

Concannon88 · 31/03/2024 13:09

bakewellbride · 30/03/2024 13:08

I'm a vegan and I vote yabu.

Ahhh did you not realise you get first dibs on prepackaged snacks? Just come straight out and ask them if they eat meat or not! If they answer yes then that disqualifies them from vegan snacks

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 31/03/2024 13:04

Juicesausagecake · 31/03/2024 11:57

I think the OP has a sense of humour and was just game enough to engage with the replies.

I suspect, actually, that most of these replies are bots. The vocabulary (unhinged, weird, batshit, entitled) is too limited to be human. And it cycles round and round like an algorithm. Mumsnet should sort it out.

So people agreeing with each other are bots now?
So many folk are saying OP was entitled because she was!

likepebblesonabeach · 31/03/2024 12:55

@Medsy I'm not new here, oldest DC is 20 but I agree with PP, why start an AIBU if you don't think you are?
You obviously dont think you are, which is absolutely your right to your own opinion but why do you feel the need to come on to an internet forum to have your opinion validated if you are so sure YANBU?
I find this bizarre, you don't want to accept others opinions who have taken the time to reply to your question, remember not one of these posters gave you their opinions unsolicited, you asked a question which was totally irrelevant as it seems you don't think you were BU so why the need to start a thread and ignore the responses that you asked for.

exerciseshmexercise · 31/03/2024 12:42

@Medsy again. Why does your "philosophy" of vegetarianism trump, in your mind, my disability related reasons for wanting a cheese sandwich?

Juicesausagecake · 31/03/2024 12:12

@user44456b is going to check that they are not a bot 😂

Why don’t you just ask user44456c?

Medsy · 31/03/2024 12:12

Why are you getting so upset about this?

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Alargeoneplease89 · 31/03/2024 12:08

ForestBather · 31/03/2024 09:19

I'd have voted remain, and I still wouldn't give you the sandwich I chose.

I voted Brexit and I would 😂

Medsy · 31/03/2024 12:06

GroundhogSchoolrun · 31/03/2024 11:51

The OPs response drives me Batshit- why start an AIBU but then not accept when they are being told they are.
yes you are rude but to be honest if that needs to be pointed out to you it’s not going to change so crack on.
I wouldn’t have had a go at you but I certainly wouldn’t have swapped sandwiches with you unless the shop was completely empty apart from 1 meat sandwich and 1 cheese sandwich

why start an AIBU but then not accept when they are being told they are

Are you new here?

OP posts:
Medsy · 31/03/2024 12:05

Juicesausagecake · 31/03/2024 11:57

I think the OP has a sense of humour and was just game enough to engage with the replies.

I suspect, actually, that most of these replies are bots. The vocabulary (unhinged, weird, batshit, entitled) is too limited to be human. And it cycles round and round like an algorithm. Mumsnet should sort it out.

I don't mind being called weird, unhinged or bat shit, but the entitled baffles me! Fair enough if I'd demanded it, but I still don't understand why asking nicely if something is an option would be entitled.

OP posts:
Juicesausagecake · 31/03/2024 11:57

I think the OP has a sense of humour and was just game enough to engage with the replies.

I suspect, actually, that most of these replies are bots. The vocabulary (unhinged, weird, batshit, entitled) is too limited to be human. And it cycles round and round like an algorithm. Mumsnet should sort it out.

GroundhogSchoolrun · 31/03/2024 11:51

The OPs response drives me Batshit- why start an AIBU but then not accept when they are being told they are.
yes you are rude but to be honest if that needs to be pointed out to you it’s not going to change so crack on.
I wouldn’t have had a go at you but I certainly wouldn’t have swapped sandwiches with you unless the shop was completely empty apart from 1 meat sandwich and 1 cheese sandwich

ChipsCheeseAndGravey · 31/03/2024 11:47

I think this is a case of askers vs guessers at its core. I do think maybe playing the veggie card was a bit off, but to be honest it wouldn’t have bothered me.

asker - don’t ask don’t get, normal to say no
guesser - only ask if you think the answer will be yes

https://www.upworthy.com/askers-vs-guessers

The life-changing magic of knowing whether people are 'Askers' or 'Guessers'

Understanding these two tendencies can help us navigate so many uncomfortable situations.

https://www.upworthy.com/askers-vs-guessers

Everythinggreen · 31/03/2024 11:42

Medsy · 31/03/2024 08:53

So, never have an innocuous conversation with anyone as it might cause somebody to have a breakdown and never visit a supermarket again?
Yeah, thanks but I won't be taking your advice!

You read what the poster said about her mum and what it would be like, and that's your response.

You really are a nasty, self centred, entitled woman. I hope you always miss out on the cheese sandwiches.

Oh and additionally, you can't preach your "philosophical" or "ethical" reasons for not eating meat, while moaning about wanting a dairy product! So you think people are wrong for eating cows, but you don't think breeding sentient beings just to hold in captivity in cramped barns, hit, abused, restrained, force impregnated then have their calfs ripped from them so that YOU can have their milk for your cheese sandwich.

Bet you voted Brexit.

Caerulea · 31/03/2024 11:41

ScroogeMcDuckling · 31/03/2024 10:21

Most (99%) cheeses use rennet to bind,

Not animal rennet. It's not 1980

Seaside3 · 31/03/2024 11:12

Such a weird comparison with brexit.

I think you were rude. And I voted remain. I'd argue you sound like a bredit supporter, only considering your own feelings/needs/desires and not those of the people around you.

And actually, I'm glad the woman told you you were rude. I'm tired of people being so entitled and it's time we started pointing it out. Maybe you will be more prepared next time and realise your wants don't trump someone else's.

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