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To have asked him to choose a different sandwich

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Medsy · 30/03/2024 13:04

Don't know if it's because it's Easter or what but my local co-ops sandwich section was totally barren, only meat sandwiches left (I'm vegetarian). I saw a man go for the last cheese one there was, so I asked him if he was vegetarian and if not, would he mind if I had it? A woman (wife?) appeared and went batshit at me and called me rude.
It made me quite pissed off actually. I wouldn't have a problem with say a gluten free person asking me if they could have the last gluten free sandwich.
WIBU?

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Medsy · 05/04/2024 14:24

Beasmum4 · 05/04/2024 13:31

Hey Medsy, you’re taking the piss eating the crisps of meat eaters. Was this an act of retaliation? 😂

Hey chill! They have beef FLAVOURS not actual beef, I did my research😏

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Beasmum4 · 05/04/2024 13:31

Medsy · 05/04/2024 10:27

Since that fateful day, I had not been able to put that sandwich out of my mind so yesterday I did indeed buy myself a cheese and onion sandwich plus roast beef and onion crisps but from M&S. WAY better than the co-op version

Hey Medsy, you’re taking the piss eating the crisps of meat eaters. Was this an act of retaliation? 😂

TheOriginalEmu · 05/04/2024 13:18

Juicesausagecake · 02/04/2024 08:34

Come to think of it, what is the etiquette for when some random woman sidles up to your husband at the chiller cabinet and breathes huskily into his ear:…?

’you look like a man who likes meat’

’What kind of a wife makes you buy packaged sandwiches. Doesn’t she know that THIS is a supermarket where bread and cheese are freely available to be bought separately?’

’Let’s crouch down here and take alternative bites while chewing the claggy mixture alluringly at each other with our mouths wide open’.

’Would you mind if I had the last vegetarian one’.

😂😂

ZetuianRose · 05/04/2024 12:17

Medsy · 30/03/2024 13:16

Because you don't buy them because of preference, I don't buy them out of philosophy

😂😂😂

Sorry to break it to you, but vegetarianism is simply a dietary preference. It doesn’t matter what reason you have for that preference.

Unless every form of meat gives you a severe allergic reaction, then it’s nothing more than a preference, and you had no more right to the sandwich than anyone else. In fact, even if it was allergy based, he still doesn’t have to give you his sandwich.

notjaneausten · 05/04/2024 12:10

OP that sounds much better!

Medsy · 05/04/2024 10:27

notjaneausten · 05/04/2024 10:20

Did you get the sandwich?

Since that fateful day, I had not been able to put that sandwich out of my mind so yesterday I did indeed buy myself a cheese and onion sandwich plus roast beef and onion crisps but from M&S. WAY better than the co-op version

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notjaneausten · 05/04/2024 10:20

Did you get the sandwich?

Devora13 · 02/04/2024 23:57

'Interesting. Because by my analysis, whether the animal sandwich gets eaten by him or by you, it's still getting killed for, and eaten by, one of you. So philosophically, you're equally complicit if you get him to buy it.'

This!

SmileyClare · 02/04/2024 11:46

This reminds me a bit of being in a park with your kids. All the parents encouraging their dc to take turns, wait for a swing to become available or use the other equipment.
Then you occasionally get one pushy parent who strolls up to the swings and asks (ever so politely) if their little Bobby can go in the swing?

You either come across a bit rude and feel awkward by declining their polite request, or you let them have their own way and roll your eyes that they didn’t just wait their turn or go on something else, like every other cunt.

saoirse31 · 02/04/2024 11:20

We hy do you think your deciding to be a vegetarian means you should have first choice always of vegetarian food? Most people in my experience who are not vegetarian also have vegetarian food on occasion, and are as entitled to it as you.

Whatifthehokeycokey · 02/04/2024 11:16

Medsy · 31/03/2024 09:01

Reading this thread it's pretty clear to me now how we ended up with a brexit vote

How on earth did you get there from someone not wanting to swap sandwiches with you? Lol. I voted remain and you're ridiculous.

CasperGutman · 02/04/2024 10:20

Personally, I wouldn't have minded being asked. It probably wouldn't have occurred to me that I was taking the last veggie sandwich, and even if I'd realised I might not have left it if you hadn't asked (as it could well just have gone to the next cheese-loving omnivore). But there are usually several sandwich options I'd be equally happy with, and I pick on a whim pretty much at random.

WhamBamThankU · 02/04/2024 10:01

threatmatrix · 01/04/2024 15:11

When people say vegetarians/vegans come across as entitled I never realised how right they were. WHO the fuck do you think you are.

It's not all of us, I promise!

Juicesausagecake · 02/04/2024 08:34

Come to think of it, what is the etiquette for when some random woman sidles up to your husband at the chiller cabinet and breathes huskily into his ear:…?

’you look like a man who likes meat’

’What kind of a wife makes you buy packaged sandwiches. Doesn’t she know that THIS is a supermarket where bread and cheese are freely available to be bought separately?’

’Let’s crouch down here and take alternative bites while chewing the claggy mixture alluringly at each other with our mouths wide open’.

’Would you mind if I had the last vegetarian one’.

Midell · 02/04/2024 08:05

In terms of genuine Assertiveness, it was okay for you to make your request politely with your reason for asking. You could have added that you would understand if he did not want to accept, and you would need to have genuinelymeant that.
It was - in genuine Asserttiveness terms - okay for him to refuse.

What would have turned your request away from Assertion and into Aggression is likely to have been the way you asked. The words you used or the tone of your voice might have implied that implied that he ought to agree or that your need was worth more than his. We are so stressed and hurried these days that we find it hard not to do this and so our exchanges spiral into anger very easily. It is making the social world increasingly unpleasant. The woman in your story was quite simply was aggressive in her intervention.

ForestBather · 01/04/2024 23:18

HowardBishop · 01/04/2024 23:02

Yes, split the sandwich. It would be like the judgement of King Solomon. Whoever did not want to split the sandwich, clearly loved it the most and would be rewarded by being able to claim it all for themselves.

I'll just give them the sandwich so I can get away from the person who appears to be not quite right.

ForestBather · 01/04/2024 23:17

ChedderGorgeous · 01/04/2024 22:57

You would split it at the point of purchase rather than taking an alternate bite each I think. Most sandwiches would already be split in half so there wouldn't be a hygiene issue.

Ew, no thanks. Sandwich halves come together, next to each other, touching. It's impossible not to touch the other half when fishing out the first half. For all I know they've been to the bathroom and not washed their hands, or picked their nose while driving, or something. I don't want anything handled by someone I don't know or trust in that way.

That beside the fact it's just plan weird to negotiate splitting a sandwich with someone, especially if they've already chosen it. Besides, OP wouldn't negotiate that as she'd have to split for half a meat sandwich to make up a whole sandwich in this scenario.

ChedderGorgeous · 01/04/2024 23:04

HowardBishop · 01/04/2024 23:02

Yes, split the sandwich. It would be like the judgement of King Solomon. Whoever did not want to split the sandwich, clearly loved it the most and would be rewarded by being able to claim it all for themselves.

I would love a nice smoked King Solomon sandwich. Plenty of cream cheese on mine please !

HowardBishop · 01/04/2024 23:02

Yes, split the sandwich. It would be like the judgement of King Solomon. Whoever did not want to split the sandwich, clearly loved it the most and would be rewarded by being able to claim it all for themselves.

StarlightLime · 01/04/2024 23:00

ChedderGorgeous · 01/04/2024 22:57

You would split it at the point of purchase rather than taking an alternate bite each I think. Most sandwiches would already be split in half so there wouldn't be a hygiene issue.

Nobody in their right mind would agree to share a sandwich they've chosen with a complete stranger because said stranger wouldn't accept that they were too late.
You seem desperate to convince people that this is a normal thing to do. Why?

ChedderGorgeous · 01/04/2024 22:57

ForestBather · 01/04/2024 22:52

No thanks, I'm not splitting anything with a stranger. I don't know what their hygiene is like. Now maybe if I'm the only one to handle the sandwich. I'll split sandwiches with family members and friends, not strangers. That would be even weirder to suggest than asking if they didn't mind swapping sandwiches.

You would split it at the point of purchase rather than taking an alternate bite each I think. Most sandwiches would already be split in half so there wouldn't be a hygiene issue.

ForestBather · 01/04/2024 22:52

ChedderGorgeous · 01/04/2024 15:16

I think there could have been some compromise here, as always. Could you have split the remaining sandwich and then supplemented from the rest of the shop to bulk out? Were you eating close enough together e.g campsite / Picnic Park or about to go your separate ways ?

No thanks, I'm not splitting anything with a stranger. I don't know what their hygiene is like. Now maybe if I'm the only one to handle the sandwich. I'll split sandwiches with family members and friends, not strangers. That would be even weirder to suggest than asking if they didn't mind swapping sandwiches.

WhatWhereWho · 01/04/2024 22:44

Medsy · 31/03/2024 09:01

Reading this thread it's pretty clear to me now how we ended up with a brexit vote

Yes if only we had had a few more rude and self-centred vegetarians. I voted Remain.

Concannon88 · 01/04/2024 20:43

Fairymother · 31/03/2024 14:37

People are weird nowadays. Cant talk to anyone anymore without offending them or putting them in an awkward position!

I think it was perfectly reasonable to ask. If someone asked for my sandwich i can either give it up for them and choose another and if i dont want to do that i can just say no 🤷🏻‍♀️
OP didnt demand the sandwich. She asked. The guy could have just told her “No thanks, i really want the cheese one.” No harm done to anyone. I was always taught that you can ask for anything as long as youre polite and prepared to accept a no.

She wants just talking to them though. She was questioning them and implied her needs were greater than his.

Scarlettpixie · 01/04/2024 19:55

Wow. I am vegan and think you were being very entitled to ask for the sandwich. It is also odd that as a vegetarian you would ask someone to eat meat so you could have the cheese. In that situation I would be glad to see someone make a veggie choice and would find something else to eat.