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How much is 'a drink' in payment terms for a tradesman?

315 replies

cockapup · 30/03/2024 10:20

My elderly parents contacted a tradesman on a local FB group as needed an outside light replacing. The tradesman said he'd pop round after finishing another local job to assess. As it turned out it was a bulb needing replacing so took him less than 10 mins. He kindly said no charge but just give me a 'drink'.

How much would you give? Just wondering if what my parents gave was excessive- I'll reveal amount later.

OP posts:
pavedwithgoodintentions · 30/03/2024 20:38

Please do contact him, OP. One chance to do the right thing or take to social media to expose his really shit behaviour.

randomfemthinker · 30/03/2024 20:34

This is awful. I'm sorry to hear this happened to your elderly parents. He absolutely should have not accepted the money. I would take a drink to mean that, a drink. Maybe take his details and drop off a pack of beer/offer a bottle of wine. Failing that, £10 cash in hand.

TinyGingerCat · 30/03/2024 20:21

Just so you can compare costs OP I've just paid an electrician £72 including VAT to take down two old light fittings and fit two new ones. One was a multi-light on cords that needed shortening to match another light. The other light needed moving about 30cm so new holes needed drilling and joists needed finding to attach the fixings to. He was here with an apprentice for about 90 minutes. The electrician who visited your parents is a prick not a decent person.

Franticbutterfly · 30/03/2024 20:19

£20

Fatlittlefruits · 30/03/2024 20:15

He's taken advantage of them and should be ashamed of himself. £10-20 would be fair.

Hocuspocusnonsense · 30/03/2024 20:13

This really saddens me.

My DP is a tradesman and he would’ve 100% REFUSED to take that. He would’ve accepted an absolute max of £10.

DON’T use that tradesman again!

Highfivemum · 30/03/2024 20:12

To take 60 pounds off an old
couple for changing a bulb is terrible. It makes my blood boil to think people like this are around and happy to rip pensioners off.

my DB friend is a tradesman and he regular does little job for the elderly I have read this out to him and he is mortified.

housethatbuiltme · 30/03/2024 20:11

Maybe Im a bit dense but if I asked how much money I owe and someone said no charge just give me a drink I would give them liquid to drink not money.

Like a cup of tea, can of pop or maybe a bottle of beer if I had one and they drank alcohol.

Thursa · 30/03/2024 20:08

He took £60 from pensioners for changing a light bulb? Bastard.

cockapup · 30/03/2024 19:55

RichardsGear · 30/03/2024 19:21

I do think you should contact him. Don't go in all guns blazing, start off softly softly, thanks for going to do the job etc but did he realise he'd taken their £60 shopping money after he'd said to your mum to just buy him a drink, which you'd have expected to be more around the 20 quid mark.
Even if nothing comes of it then at least he might feel a modicum of shame/embarrassment.

Yes I think I might do this. I wasn't sure if I was being unreasonable which is why I posted on MN.

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RichardsGear · 30/03/2024 19:21

I do think you should contact him. Don't go in all guns blazing, start off softly softly, thanks for going to do the job etc but did he realise he'd taken their £60 shopping money after he'd said to your mum to just buy him a drink, which you'd have expected to be more around the 20 quid mark.
Even if nothing comes of it then at least he might feel a modicum of shame/embarrassment.

Oheighthundreddoubleohtensixtysix · 30/03/2024 19:05

KeepingItUnderTheRadar · 30/03/2024 12:28

A tenner or twenty quid.

It's difficult to say if the bloke was unfair or not without knowing the exact interraction. Did he literally snatch it up as soon as shown? Did he hesitate but your mum was pushing the notes towards him in a confident/determined manner? Impossible to day really.

It's easy to say he shouldn't have accepted it but some people over-pay or give very generous tips to SE people and become quite upset if it's refused.

Dh is a cab driver and this happens at least once every couple of weeks to him - a journey of £6.50 and someone gives 30 quid for instance. In the early days of driving he'd try to decline when this happened and the responses he got were very often NOT good. Everything from high indignation and anger to tears from one woman who was very upset at him trying to 'control' what she was willing to pay.

Yes, my elderly grandmother fell and broke a hip once because she was trying to force money on someone and the person was refusing.

The person who refused the money felt terrible afterwards and wished she'd just taken it - but frankly if she had taken it, she would have been taking advantage of a 90 year old woman.

Jc2001 · 30/03/2024 18:43

Do a Google review and explain what happend. Let his potential customers decide whether he was being reasonable or not. £60 for a 'drink' after saying he wouldn't charge is an absolute piss take. £20 is nearer the mark.

LindaDawn · 30/03/2024 18:41

I would give £20.00.

Apolloneuro · 30/03/2024 18:29

Oh I’m so sad he took £60.

Astartn · 30/03/2024 18:28

MumblesParty · 30/03/2024 16:55

I agree, and I would give £20 for a “drink”.
But you have to remember that yes they are doing customers a favour by fitting in small jobs at discounted rates. But they’re doing themselves a favour too, because that money is tax free. I don’t begrudge them that, and I have several regular tradesmen who fit in jobs for me for £20, so I’m happy with that arrangement. But it isn’t a one-way street. It benefits the tradesmen too. They get a bit of tax free cash, and a potentially a future customer for bigger jobs (except in the OP’s case, because he’s a bloody criminal!)

yeah it does go both ways, this is why I insist on agreeing a price before and make it clear I will only pay by bank transfer or card.

I think one big issue with all this is he pretended as if he was being all benevolent and that he was not going to charge them. £60 is not no charge.

He should’ve been upfront and honest but sadly a lot (not all)of tradesmen are not. My mum was a single parent and I lost count of the amount of tradesmen trying to rip her off or outright intimidate her.

HonoraBridge · 30/03/2024 18:23

Wow, he took it all. That is really shocking.

AmiShitsaline · 30/03/2024 18:16

I think if he actually wanted to rip them off he would have stated a price but it sounds like he thought your mum was offering him the lot, he may think they were well off! On the plus side you know he will reliably turn up if you need him again! Knowing a tradesman can be well worth the extra cash this time in the long run.

biteysaurus · 30/03/2024 18:14

Sisforsmile · 30/03/2024 14:46

Actually diddl is right regarding age

I think age is relevant. They're unlikely to be earning a wage at knocking on for 90. £60 is a big chunk of a pension.

Plus we all know that cognitive decline is linked to age - I would like to be clear that I am not saying this is the case for OP's parents - and arseholes will target older adults for this very reason.

AllThePotatoesAreSinging · 30/03/2024 18:14

My uncle is an electrician. He swapped out MIL’s outside light, job took 30 mins and he charged £15. No mates rates. I hate it when tradespeople don’t charge a proper price. It’s awkward and often results in a hugely bumped up payment.

OneTC · 30/03/2024 17:43

MumblesParty · 30/03/2024 17:05

The first time I heard the phrase I was baffled. It was a young car mechanic who’d fitted a windscreen wiper for me (that I’d brought with me but wasn’t able to fit). It took him 5 minutes, I asked how much I owed him, and he said “just buy me a drink”. For a moment I thought he was asking me out, which would have been ridiculous - me a frumpy middled aged mum, him a young hunky mechanic. There was a very awkward moment while my brain processed it, and luckily I guessed he meant cash. I cringe when I think how awful it would have been if I’d said “you’re on, see you in the pub tonight at 8” !!

I really wish you were telling that story though 😅

Dorisbonson · 30/03/2024 17:23

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 30/03/2024 10:22

All depends what the person did and how long it took - you are not going to give 20 quid to someone for 5 mins work

so generally a fiver or tenner at best unless they'd worked more than a day, then consider 20

£20 for a day's work? Where is the cheeky fuckers thread?

MumblesParty · 30/03/2024 17:06

MumPlanQuery · 30/03/2024 17:04

He saved them a bit of work that could have been straightforward but equally could have expanded into something complicated - getting a ladder out and climbing up to remove the bulb, doing the online research to see what kind of bulb it is, ordering it, getting the ladder out again to change it, and potentially other awkwardness with getting the right screwdriver to remove the fittings, or finding out the bulb wasn’t the correct one so having to order another, or finding you’ve dropped and lost a screw in the process and need to source another, and through this, having no outdoor light for a few more days, plus having the uncertainty that this would fix the problem and that if it had turned out to be not the bulb they’d have to pay someone to come in after that to assess it.

I would have expected him to take £20 given he’d said ‘a drink’, but I still think a minimum call-out of £50 would not have been unreasonable, plus the cost of a bulb.

In which case, OP can get a receipt and he can put his £60 through the books. Which of course he won’t want to do…..

MaybeRevisitYourWipingT3chnique · 30/03/2024 17:06

diddl · 30/03/2024 14:45

Well their age is irrelevant unless he has special rates for over a certain age!

I see what you're getting at, but he was clearly exploiting the power imbalance that he had over vulnerable people.

For starters, a younger person would have been far less likely to call out a tradie in the first place for a very simple job like this. If they had done so, do you think the tradie would have tried to get away with £60 for it, on a 'favour' basis?

Considering that they never offered him £60 - just asked which notes he needed and he grabbed the lot. Maybe their eyesight is very poor, or they have extremely painful arthritis, so they had to trust the man to take the right money rather than being able to give it to him directly.

Most people approaching 90 are very vulnerable, and they know very well that they are. If the electrician had told them with a threatening snarl that the cost of the work - even a 2-minute job - was £1,000, or £5,000, that they had to pay him now, most of them probably would if they had the money available.

It's the same principle as when a violent man intending robbery will seek to intimidate and overpower a petite lone woman in the street but wouldn't dream of trying anything with a massive 6'4" rugby player. It's not just what people try to do, but the grounds on which they have sized up and chosen their much weaker victim before deciding to deliberately exploit that weakness.

MumblesParty · 30/03/2024 17:05

ImWatching · 30/03/2024 16:59

I’ve never heard of being asked for “a drink” by a tradesman - learn something every day

Me either. I read the op and though he wanted a cup of tea, which I though odd as he was on his way home, until I got to the question.

The first time I heard the phrase I was baffled. It was a young car mechanic who’d fitted a windscreen wiper for me (that I’d brought with me but wasn’t able to fit). It took him 5 minutes, I asked how much I owed him, and he said “just buy me a drink”. For a moment I thought he was asking me out, which would have been ridiculous - me a frumpy middled aged mum, him a young hunky mechanic. There was a very awkward moment while my brain processed it, and luckily I guessed he meant cash. I cringe when I think how awful it would have been if I’d said “you’re on, see you in the pub tonight at 8” !!