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How much is 'a drink' in payment terms for a tradesman?

315 replies

cockapup · 30/03/2024 10:20

My elderly parents contacted a tradesman on a local FB group as needed an outside light replacing. The tradesman said he'd pop round after finishing another local job to assess. As it turned out it was a bulb needing replacing so took him less than 10 mins. He kindly said no charge but just give me a 'drink'.

How much would you give? Just wondering if what my parents gave was excessive- I'll reveal amount later.

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CurlyhairedAssassin · 30/03/2024 11:39

Also, how many other people is he just "fitting in on his way home from work"? Another couple of jobs like that, with people proffering anything more than 20 quid for a 10 min easy job, and "fitting stuff in on his way home" becomes quite lucrative on top of a full day at work. Not such a saint really.

Kalevala · 30/03/2024 11:37

RandomMess · 30/03/2024 10:21

£10-£20

A pint is best part of a tenner in many places.

Where? Cider is £4.80 around here, I don't buy beer but it's usually slightly less. I'd say a fiver is a drink.

whatsbestforme · 30/03/2024 11:36

Sorry to hear this.

I hope his conscience gets to him.

They need to be reminded about conmen,scary, but true the lengths some will go to once they've found vulnerable people.

shiningstar2 · 30/03/2024 11:35

£20 for his time would have been generous. From elderly people, on his way home from work? A tenner would have been acceptable.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 30/03/2024 11:35

Oh, just seen that that was their shopping money. And that there were clearly demoninations of notes, so he didn't need to take it all. Not a nice person, he shouldn't have taken it. Poor parents.

kitsuneghost · 30/03/2024 11:33

For those saying so, where is it £20 a drink in a normal pub? Its not even that in London venues.

ditalini · 30/03/2024 11:33

So the tradesman gets to feel all good about himself with his generous handwaving about "no charge"... but in fact walks off with the cash for an elderly couple's food shop.

What a prince amongst men.

Capmagturk · 30/03/2024 11:32

cockapup · 30/03/2024 11:07

Just to add, they are not well off and the £60 was their shopping money. My mum just got the cash out of her purse and showed him the notes and he took it all - I too would have expected him to hand at least £20 back!

That's bloody shocking, for 10 mins. Absolutely not trustworthy.

Capmagturk · 30/03/2024 11:30

If a drink means money then how can he say no charge just give me a drink (money), £10 or £20 is still charging so why not just say call its a £10 or £20.

Astartn · 30/03/2024 11:30

I agree @CurlyhairedAssassin , that’s why I said in these circumstances I’d pay £10 if I supplied the bulb.

PerfectTravelTote · 30/03/2024 11:29

In an example of cultural differences, I would literally have handed him a drink 😂

HitsAndMrs · 30/03/2024 11:28

I'd be pretty upset about this if it were my parents, he has taken advantage and I'd be telling him so.

If he had quoted £60 before he came, fair enough, but he said no charge and then took their shopping money.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 30/03/2024 11:28

Am I the only one thinking that even 20 quid is excessive for a 10 minute change of bulb that the homeowner already had, never mind the 60 that OP's parents gave him? He was only calling round on his way home "to assess". Presumably if it would have been something more complicated he would have come out on another day to fix it and charge an appropriate amount. I mean he's clearly honest, as he could have pretended that it was something much more complicated, come round another day, faffed around, turned the electricity off for 10 mins, got his pliers out and charged them £100, but are we really expected to pay tradesmen £20 for 10 mins of what was essentially just honesty?

It's different if it was out his way so cost him more in time and petrol than if he'd gone straight home. Or if they really had no-one else eg neighbour, relative or friend that could have gone up a ladder and changed the bulb. But if not, 20 quid for 10 mins is £120 an hour for labour. Is that what electricians are paid now?

Caerulea · 30/03/2024 11:26

Fine for them to offer 60, totally & completely unacceptable for him to have accepted it. Total dick move.

NoBunnyHome · 30/03/2024 11:25

£20.

Astartn · 30/03/2024 11:24

Just read the updates. OP, that’s sad to hear they gave their shopping money away! Do you know why they did that?

I asked a friend how much one of her handmade goods costs, she said “how much do you think it’s worth? ” I told her to just let me know how much you want then I’ll pay that. I wasn’t happy about being asked to put a value on her work. It’s like extra work for me having to figure out what they think is a reasonable price!

I dislike these open-ended requests for payments because it’s human nature not to want to appear stingy, but you can easily get carried away and be ripped off . I believe that’s why some people do make these request tbh.

Next time that happens, please ask your parents to insist on some sort of guide price. £60 isn’t “ no charge!”

DSD9472 · 30/03/2024 11:21

OP- I'd also speak to your parents about showing their cash to tradesmen! He shouldn't have taken the £60, but what if your DM had £100 or £200 in there? Would she have got that wad out and showed him the lot? 😬

GoingDownLikeBHS · 30/03/2024 11:21

For those mentioning call out charges, these have to be stated and agreed in advance and the guy didn't tell OP's parents about any call out charge, just said give me a drink then took the money he was offered. Call out charge doesn't come into it, on this occasion. He was a chancer.

WhatTheFuckIsThat · 30/03/2024 11:19

cockapup · 30/03/2024 11:02

My parents gave him £60, which is what cash my mum had in her purse. So although I think too much I do appreciate he did come at fairly short notice and sorted it there and then.
The bulb was actually provided by my parents, as my mum is one of those that has the stock of a supermarket in the under stairs cupboard 🤣

£60?! To change a bulb. That's too much. A tenner would have been enough.

GoingDownLikeBHS · 30/03/2024 11:18

That was at the very least a mean thing for him to do and at worst he was looking to rip them off in the first place. Sadly there are many who are happy to make money in that way.

Did you tell your parents that wasn't a sensible thing to do? Are they likely to get into the same (or even worse) situation again? Or was it just an error of judgement and they now realise they were conned?

AhBiscuits · 30/03/2024 11:18

£60 for a call out is reasonable in my book.

Floralsofa · 30/03/2024 11:16

My husband is an electrician and has a £50 call out fee (deducted from any work that needs doing)

I doubt he'd charge it in this instance though but I also doubt he'd have accepted £60 if he had just added it onto his day and it was on his way home.

cockapup · 30/03/2024 11:14

Mayflower282 · 30/03/2024 11:10

He doesn’t sound like an honest and trustworthy person to have around your parents. I wouldn’t use his services again.

I've rationalised it by thinking if he said up front I'll come and look at this job to quote but my call out is £60 they may have accepted those terms.
I think it's because he said no charge and then took £60 that it seems a rip off.

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Astartn · 30/03/2024 11:13

MolkosTeenageAngst · 30/03/2024 11:05

Okay thanks, friends husband is a tradesman but I suppose is also sort of a friend too so maybe that’s where it gets confusing? I agree it would feel weird giving him cash for minor jobs, he’s done things like put up shelves or change bulbs and the wipers in my car so not really jobs related to his change. Very confusing though, I think even if it was a tradesman I didn’t know if they said give me a drink I’d have given a drink. Things like this are such a minefield!

Yeah in your case even though he is a tradesman by profession, I would still expect to give a drink or a box of his favourite chocolates etc as opposed to handing over a tenner since he’s also a friends husband so I really doubt he expects that. My friend has did little things for me which are loosely related to her profession and to say thanks I’ve picked up the tab for coffee or lunch. It wouldn’t cross my mind to slip her a tenner!

I wouldn’t have known it meant cash either in OP’s situation. Very confusing indeed! I’m not autistic but also ND, and the lack of clarity would annoy me 😆

Willmafrockfit · 30/03/2024 11:12

she needs to ask around in case they need a tradesperson again, but not him!