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To ask to stop your children ‘play’ screaming?

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JediKnightingale · 27/03/2024 16:03

I live in a cul de sac where we have around six families with small children (weirdly, all girls - not relevant I know) that range from ages 2 - 7. They all walk to school together with parents and at home time they congregate in the middle of the close. Mums chatting and the entire gaggle of tiny noise machines run around screaming for absolutely no reason for about 30/45 mins depending on the weather. During the holidays or at weekends they can be out there for hours at a time.

I and quite a few others work from home in our road - my home office is in the front part of my house and I literally cannot take or make phone calls due to the racket. Normal play noise is absolutely fine but WHY do parents put up with this stupid screaming? When my 3 were small I would never have allowed it but it doesn’t seem to even register with these parents.

Do you let your children play scream and if so would you be put out if you were asked (nicely) if they could play WITHOUT THE SCREAMS?

OP posts:
Gruffallowhydidntyouknow · 28/03/2024 12:32

Devilsmommy · 27/03/2024 16:09

Do you have children? I only ask because I used to be so annoyed by this kind of thing and then I now have an 18mo who doesn't talk yet but loves a good shout, especially when out and about and I wouldn't really stop him tbh

Interesting. I never let my children scream.

Twokittycats · 28/03/2024 12:28

Some parents are lazy and just leave their kids to scream and mess around, and the kids think the world revolves around them 🙄

Connected1 · 28/03/2024 12:09

@DoraSpenlow

Along comes a Mum and her two boys, as it happens, just screaming at each other. I must have looked a bit perplexed as she just said to me Oh they do love their screaming competitions.

I think you've hit the nail on the head, it does sound like children are competitively screaming at each other, to see who can be the loudest.

It's definitely a recent thing. As I said in a previous post, I remember hearing it when I a teenager and going to investigate because it was so rare. Not any more!

DodoTired · 28/03/2024 12:00

SabreIsMyFave · 28/03/2024 11:41

Blood curdling screams coming from children is the EXACT thing that OP, and many other posters are complaining about @DodoTired NOT children playing and having fun and making normal 'children' noise. Many posts have said this.

You seem to be struggling to understand this. Why is this? NO-ONE minds children playing, and having fun. It's the horrific banshee screeching from SOME children that many people object to. You don't seem to mind it... Why? Are you oblivious to it now? Wink

Why is this thread so jarring for you? Is it hitting a raw nerve??? You have had neighbours complaining about the shrill blood curdling screams from YOUR children haven't you. I'm right aren't I? Wink

Nobody complained about my children (they actually rarely play in the garden and few times my toddler had a massive loud meltdown I did bring her inside, believe it or not - Im not inconsiderate towards my neighbours)

I explained above what I have an issue with and why I believe that many people here exaggerate and ‘criminalise’ natural behaviour. Just one post below you someone old is complaining about a noise in a SOFT PLAY 🤦‍♀️ now soft plays are definitely incredibly loud but that’s exactly what they are for. So complain about that is incredibly unreasonable.

Naunet · 28/03/2024 11:58

brunettemic · 28/03/2024 10:12

Honestly, there’s all this whining in society about how kids sit indoors on screens and now there’s whining about them playing outdoors. It’s a small proportion of your day and I don’t buy for a second you can’t make calls with the noise unless your house doesn’t have windows with glass in them.

Believe it or not, kids used to play out a lot more AND manage not to scream their heads off and have consideration for others. It’s because they were actually parented.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 28/03/2024 11:56

SquirrelMeze · 28/03/2024 11:31

You've got a naive view of disabilities then. Lots are invisible and the issue isn't that they aren't accessible - although I agree with that - but much wider. E.g. physically getting to work. I don't actually mind kids playing either but would hate a push away from wfh which had actually been beneficial for many. Two things can exist at once.

Edited

Obviously WFH has benefits, but only where it comes with an acceptance that people increasingly working from home can not expect to impose changes on the lives of people living normal non-work lives at home, which in fairness it sounds like you don't.

And as for my naive view of making workplaces accessible to people who have difficulty physically getting to work or being in certain environments, I actually would have thought those things went without saying.

DoraSpenlow · 28/03/2024 11:56

Our garden backs onto a school playing field. I have spent many a happy summer lunchtime sitting in my garden with a sandwich listening to the children playing. Giggling and, yes,some shouting/squealing.

But, my God, this last couple of summers the screaming needs to be heard to be believed. It sounds like there is a massacre going on. I now can't sit there until they have gone back in.

I was working in my front garden last year and I could hear this screaming at school finish time and I honestly thought a child had been run over. Along comes a Mum and her two boys, as it happens, just screaming at each other. I must have looked a bit perplexed as she just said to me Oh they do love their screaming competitions. I walked past their house a couple of days later and all I could hear was screaming. How does she stand it? God help their neighbours. And their vocal chords.

Naunet · 28/03/2024 11:55

DodoTired · 28/03/2024 09:17

There is (should be) noone in residential area except parents, kids and some curmudgeons pensioners who should get a grip (because life certainly doesn’t revolve around them even if Tory party makes them believe otherwise)

Does life revolve around children then? Because so far the excuse for letting kids scream their heads off in residential areas is that the world doesn’t revolve around pensioners or those who work from home. I bet if your neighbour took up the drums you’d suddenly have a problem with being impacted by other peoples inconsiderate noise, especially when trying to get your kids to sleep. Would that make you curmudgeonly?
Also, news flash, those who don’t have kids also live in residential areas.

Lifestooshort71 · 28/03/2024 11:44

Hrtwt but I stopped taking grandson to soft play because the constant shrieking and screaming of girls running round made me feel ill and borderline murderous (that is an exaggeration before i'm jumped on) and never the boys but always the girls. Why??

SabreIsMyFave · 28/03/2024 11:43

BriceNobeslovesMurielHeslop · 28/03/2024 11:41

@DodoTired you can defend your position without calling other posters names or lumping huge groups of people in together, you know?

Agree with this. And the amount of defensiveness from @DodoTired is off the scale! Shock

BriceNobeslovesMurielHeslop · 28/03/2024 11:41

@DodoTired you can defend your position without calling other posters names or lumping huge groups of people in together, you know?

SabreIsMyFave · 28/03/2024 11:41

Blood curdling screams coming from children is the EXACT thing that OP, and many other posters are complaining about @DodoTired NOT children playing and having fun and making normal 'children' noise. Many posts have said this.

You seem to be struggling to understand this. Why is this? NO-ONE minds children playing, and having fun. It's the horrific banshee screeching from SOME children that many people object to. You don't seem to mind it... Why? Are you oblivious to it now? Wink

Why is this thread so jarring for you? Is it hitting a raw nerve??? You have had neighbours complaining about the shrill blood curdling screams from YOUR children haven't you. I'm right aren't I? Wink

DodoTired · 28/03/2024 11:36

@SabreIsMyFave

yes. I’m serious. Just because people decided in the last few years to WFH, doesn’t mean that everyone should bend over and create same level of quiet as in the City workspace.
It’s just as selfish.

and yes, Im totally ok, thank you very much.
just don’t like stuck up people who want to impose their “straight jacket-ness” onto the whole world. And im defending normal natural behaviours from this nonsense. As I said i 100% believe descriptions of “blood curling constant shrieking” are gross exaggerations and in reality people are harping on normal noise

SquirrelMeze · 28/03/2024 11:31

TheYearOfSmallThings · 28/03/2024 11:26

I would rather see work spaces made easily accessible to staff with a disability than create an expectation that children who live in a cul de sac should play indoors or play quietly because adults working from home want it to be as quiet as an adult work space.

You've got a naive view of disabilities then. Lots are invisible and the issue isn't that they aren't accessible - although I agree with that - but much wider. E.g. physically getting to work. I don't actually mind kids playing either but would hate a push away from wfh which had actually been beneficial for many. Two things can exist at once.

SabreIsMyFave · 28/03/2024 11:27

@DodoTired · Today 09:46

It makes people look like a bad parent only to a certain category of BRITISH people. Many other cultures are less stuffy and dont have “children should be seen and not heard” culture. Are they all wrong and the only way is a British middle class way? Britain isn’t known for producing happy people, it is known for producing reserved “stiff upper lip” people which actually isn’t psychologically healthy.

@BriceNobeslovesMurielHeslop

There’s always a poster that is determined that “other” children frolic and scream unabashed while their parents look on beaming, while all British children live a life akin to a Dickensian orphan.

Exactly. It's a load of old shite. I am seriously embarrassed for 'DODO.' She is breathtakingly defensive on this thread. I wonder why? 😉

SabreIsMyFave · 28/03/2024 11:27

@Pepsiisbetterthancoke · Today 09:29

It really is easy to spot the twatty folks that are failing at parenting on this thread

The world doesn’t revolve around your screaming kids and just makes you look like a bad parent. And before you say it this doesn’t include those with medical needs but not all screamers are doing that uncontrollably!

Yep. 100% agree with this. ^

@OnceinaMinion · Today 09:50

Most people like hearing children playing normally.

Just being able to scream blue murder and make as much noise as they like is not normal. Children are part of the community and therefore have to act that way too.

It’s like parents who left their children run amok in restaurants because ‘they’re enjoying themselves’ and spoiling it for everyone.

And this too. 100%.

SabreIsMyFave · 28/03/2024 11:26

DodoTired · 28/03/2024 09:05

I mean, the OP also thinks the world revolves around her. She can work in the office in an area without screaming children, but she chooses to work from home - no doubt for her convenience, but why is it everyone else’s problem? Just because adults now want to WFH for their own benefit it doesn’t mean that the world should start revolving around them to minimise all domestic noise

You are actually being serious right now aren't you?

Absolutely unbelievable. Shock

'If a parent is incapable of controlling the horrific shrill screaming of their OWN children - and doesn't give a shit about how their screaming is impacting other peoples right to quiet enjoyment and peace, the person affected can get headphones/earplugs! or just DEAL WITH IT!'

Oh. MY. GOD! You are utterly shameless. I also agree with @Meowandthen

..· Today 08:02

You're one of those selfish parents, aren't you? Think the world revolves around your screaming brats.

And as for this!

@DodoTired · Today 09:17

There is (should be) no-one in residential area except parents, and kids .. and some curmudgeons pensioners should get a grip (because life certainly doesn’t revolve around them even if Tory party makes them believe otherwise)

WOW. Bet your neighbours love you. 🙄 The ageism is dripping from your posts, along with all the bile and vitriol. You don't sound very happy. Are you OK? Serious question.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 28/03/2024 11:26

SquirrelMeze · 28/03/2024 11:19

To an extent I agree, but I work from home because of a disability. So you can't really dictate that as you don't know people's circumstances. It's like saying "basketball should only be played on basketball courts".

Edited

I would rather see work spaces made easily accessible to staff with a disability than create an expectation that children who live in a cul de sac should play indoors or play quietly because adults working from home want it to be as quiet as an adult work space.

CreateYourOwnUsername · 28/03/2024 11:21

I also hate this op and I have two small dcs (one with SEN). I don't let them scream outside - they are told they will have to come indoors if they are too noisy as it disturbs rhe neighbours who wfh (they've never complained but I know how the sound carries in our gardens).

It is common in secondary schools too I'm afraid (I have worked in three now and it is the same in all of them). It is absolutely more common in the girls, but the boys sometimes do it too and it's even worse. The least screamy school I have worked in was all girls, funnily enough. I firmly ask them to be quiet and / or to leave the corridor if they do it at school.

SquirrelMeze · 28/03/2024 11:19

TheYearOfSmallThings · 27/03/2024 16:18

Children are noisy and pointless screaming should not be encouraged.

But I strongly feel that WFH should not dictate that people have to stop living their normal lives inside or around their homes. Houses were built to live in, they are not offices, and if you choose to work from home in a cul de sac full of young families, it will often be noisy. If it wasn't screaming it would be football or basketball or something else.

To an extent I agree, but I work from home because of a disability. So you can't really dictate that as you don't know people's circumstances. It's like saying "basketball should only be played on basketball courts".

fitzwilliamdarcy · 28/03/2024 11:15

DodoTired · 28/03/2024 11:13

What does it have to do with childlessness?

i didn’t have children when I lived two floors above a nursery in the City and I haven’t had any issues with screaming children.

people who cannot stand the noise children make should certainly live somewhere where there are less children or none at all. In senior accommodation for example 🤣 certainly not by a school, playground or green where children gather, and not in family area

You said:

There is (should be) noone in residential area except parents, kids and some curmudgeons pensioners

That excludes non-pensioners who aren't parents. I was curious as to where you thought they should be if not in a residential area.

Needmorelego · 28/03/2024 11:14

@DodoTired yes unfortunately it is true.

fitzwilliamdarcy · 28/03/2024 11:14

DodoTired · 28/03/2024 11:05

Depends on method of teaching 🙄

but generally we are not talking about hours on end; and expressing natural behaviours doesn’t mean someone will grow inconsiderate of others

so far mainly who were hushed in childhood are exhibiting inconsiderate behaviours here

Depends on method of teaching 🙄

Yes, that's why I included (kindly and firmly).

expressing natural behaviours doesn’t mean someone will grow inconsiderate of others

There is a very big difference between a toddler screaming and an 11 or 12 year old screaming. The former is natural and with teaching, will stop. The 11 or 12 year old is likely to have internalised the message that only their needs matter and that they take precedence over everybody else's wishes. They are likely to take that message into adulthood, and show inconsideration in other ways.

In addition to you thinking that raising children appropriately is abuse, I now see that you don't actually believe that any kids beyond toddler-age ever scream, and that all of us saying we've experienced this are lying. I'll bow out.

DodoTired · 28/03/2024 11:13

fitzwilliamdarcy · 28/03/2024 10:15

Where are the childless people supposed to live?

What does it have to do with childlessness?

i didn’t have children when I lived two floors above a nursery in the City and I haven’t had any issues with screaming children.

people who cannot stand the noise children make should certainly live somewhere where there are less children or none at all. In senior accommodation for example 🤣 certainly not by a school, playground or green where children gather, and not in family area

Catsbreakfast · 28/03/2024 11:08

Devilsmommy · 27/03/2024 16:09

Do you have children? I only ask because I used to be so annoyed by this kind of thing and then I now have an 18mo who doesn't talk yet but loves a good shout, especially when out and about and I wouldn't really stop him tbh

You didn’t read the OP did you?