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To ask to stop your children ‘play’ screaming?

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JediKnightingale · 27/03/2024 16:03

I live in a cul de sac where we have around six families with small children (weirdly, all girls - not relevant I know) that range from ages 2 - 7. They all walk to school together with parents and at home time they congregate in the middle of the close. Mums chatting and the entire gaggle of tiny noise machines run around screaming for absolutely no reason for about 30/45 mins depending on the weather. During the holidays or at weekends they can be out there for hours at a time.

I and quite a few others work from home in our road - my home office is in the front part of my house and I literally cannot take or make phone calls due to the racket. Normal play noise is absolutely fine but WHY do parents put up with this stupid screaming? When my 3 were small I would never have allowed it but it doesn’t seem to even register with these parents.

Do you let your children play scream and if so would you be put out if you were asked (nicely) if they could play WITHOUT THE SCREAMS?

OP posts:
CommentNow · 29/03/2024 08:59

I've never allowed it. I talk to my kids about how some people sleep in the day because they do important jobs at night that we all benefit from. It's not hard to raise considerate kids.

Katemax82 · 29/03/2024 08:59

Quatty · 27/03/2024 16:05

It’s not their fault you WFH, so perhaps move to another room? Or go to an office? Yiu can’t expect the world to revolve around you and your work schedule and Incan imagine that these kids are full on screaming all day long.

Still, I wouldn't allow screaming in my garden if it was for half an hour! Why should neighbours put up with it?

Longma · 29/03/2024 08:55

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PleaseletitbeSpring · 29/03/2024 08:20

Many PPs obviously have never experienced what some of us have discussed. Shrieking and shouting starting at 8am and going on until it’s dark on non school days and from end of school until night time during the term. Outside my house, sitting in my parking, scraping bikes along my car, banging the communal gate attached to my house constantly. Screaming in the passageway next to my house and then congregating in next door’s back garden to scream on the trampoline. The teens whizzing up and down on e scooters at high speed on blind bends. It’s a never ending hell and wherever you sit in the house, you can’t hear yourself think. This is a so-called sought after street. The noisy kids are from the private rentals and the families pay an extortionate rent. One poor neighbour often works nights in a senior position in ICU and has to sleep elsewhere when on nights. Two neighbours have sold just because of the noise. We used to play out in the street as kids, but never did this high pitched screaming. It’s not curmudgeonly to want to enjoy your home without an assault on the ears. If you haven’t lived with this level of nuisance, don’t criticise those of us who do.

Quatty · 29/03/2024 08:07

‘You are seriously suggesting that these badly behaved SCREECHY kids who are out of control, ‘

allegedly.

AnnoyedOnHoliday · 29/03/2024 07:42

TeenyTinyCrocodile · 27/03/2024 16:40

YABVU.

You can, and should, either move to a rear part of the house for that short part of the day, schedule your calls in all the other hours of the working day, or get yourself an appropriate set-up with noise-cancelling earphones for your benefit, and the type of microphone that is designed to be used in call centres so that your voice is clear but the background noise can barely be heard, for the client's benefit.

If you require absolute quiet for phone calls all day that can't be solved in this way, your job shouldn't be offered as WFH, and you should be in an office that facilitates that.

This is an absolutely batshit response. Shrieking and screaming for nearly 2 hours outside peoples homes is not some necessary thing that needs to happen. However OP does need to work - that is pretty necessary. Your suggestion to re-schedule calls around them screaming is frankly ludicrious. Asking her clients and colleagues change meeting times to less ideal ones to work around some kids wanting to screech in the street for hours is not an liable option!

The only option here should be parents doing some parenting and asking their children to play without disturbing everyone around them

HaPPy8 · 29/03/2024 07:21

TheYearOfSmallThings · 27/03/2024 16:18

Children are noisy and pointless screaming should not be encouraged.

But I strongly feel that WFH should not dictate that people have to stop living their normal lives inside or around their homes. Houses were built to live in, they are not offices, and if you choose to work from home in a cul de sac full of young families, it will often be noisy. If it wasn't screaming it would be football or basketball or something else.

This nails it for me.

shellyleppard · 29/03/2024 07:19

I have the same problem. Lots of elderly neighbours on our street and the kids congregate on the grass outside our house and scream and scream. Not little kids either, probably about 11 or 12 . Drives me absolutely batshit. Yes I have asked them to keep the noise down but I just get told to f off. Have tried talking to their parents but they won't answer the door. Hmmm I wonder why 😁

Lifebeganat50 · 29/03/2024 07:18

Auburngal · 29/03/2024 07:15

The subject of screaming. What age should children stop screaming when running about?

Saw some girls aged 12-14 running about in a local park screaming. I don't recall screaming at that age.

They should stop at whatever age they start!

Auburngal · 29/03/2024 07:15

The subject of screaming. What age should children stop screaming when running about?

Saw some girls aged 12-14 running about in a local park screaming. I don't recall screaming at that age.

Westfacing · 29/03/2024 07:02

A cul-de-sac with six families with young children is not conducive to WFH at the front of the house!

Screaming is annoying and piercing - it gets right into your head. It does seem to be a girl thing with boys doing other things like kicking a thudding ball non-stop.

At my last place there were big gardens and teens/20s would have parties when their parents were away. Loud music no problem, that usually went off around midnight but then they'd stay out chatting loudly, again no problem, but oh lord the high-pitched squealing from the girls!

But I expect many of us were loud at that age Smile

Bearygummies · 29/03/2024 06:37

I don’t have kids and I work from home but I don’t mind at all when kids scream or kick balls around etc. I’m just glad they’re having fun - the innocence and exuberance etc of childhood lol

andipe · 29/03/2024 06:28

@DodoTired

You seem really excited to keep using the word 'curmudgeons', have you just learned it?

RosalindFranklin13 · 29/03/2024 02:10

I get that kids can be annoying and shrieky, but this is what happens when they run around and play. It's a good thing kids are outside playing, not rotting their brains on social media. A cul-de-sac is a perfect place for them to do so. If you don't like that kind of atmosphere during your work hours, well, that is why people go to offices.

Fromthebirdsnest · 29/03/2024 00:22

My just turned 3 year old girl & 8 year old boy keep play squealing it grates on me no end , I'm detached so fortunately it's only irritating me but if any one has any tips .. they are both definitely not ND if relivent just annoying 🤣

SabreIsMyFave · 28/03/2024 23:44

AutumnBride · 28/03/2024 18:53

So if the OP had said there was an elderly person having end of life care in a front bedroom you'd suggest moving them presumably ?

Having small children isn't a free pass for anti social behaviour, children need to learn to have consideration for others. We once had neighbours with kids who spent a whole summer squealing on a trampoline and it was excruciating.

Yeah - around a decade ago, we moved house after living next door to a horrific family like this (18 months we tolerated it... it was a private let between houses.) School holidays and weekends were a nightmare. 8-10 hours a day there were 5 to 8 kids outside screeching blue fucking murder, and the parents didn't give a shit.

Said property had SEVEN different tenants after we left... over 6 years. The nightmare family were evicted by the council for non-payment of rent, and anti social behaviour. Vile people. I pity ANY neighbour they have.

SabreIsMyFave · 28/03/2024 23:42

@brunettemic

It’s half an hour, maybe even, hold onto your hats here, 45 minutes of the day that OP is talking about. Not 8 hours straight.

You are seriously suggesting that these badly behaved SCREECHY kids who are out of control, scream for just half hour of the day? All the LOLz. 😂 I don't think so!

I have heard kids screaming for HOURS. Different tones and volumes, from quite loud to very loud to super loud, and harsh screams to high pitched screams. On and on and on 'waaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.' Non-stop attention-seeking banshee screeching! FOR HOURS! AND HOURS!

Some days, I hear the kids over the road from me screaming for 20 minutes straight, stopping for 10 minutes, then screaming for 30 minutes, and stopping for 5 minutes, screaming for 35 minutes, stopping for 7 minutes, screaming for 45 minutes.... Rinse and repeat. For 5-6 hours some days. Other days it's longer.

'Just half an hour a day' my arse. 😆

DodoTired · 28/03/2024 23:37

Lifestooshort71 · 28/03/2024 18:46

The 'someone old' was me - is that because I'm a grandmother?! Anyway, of course you expect noise at a soft-play area but why girls standing in a group shrieking and screaming? Go on, I'm actually interested to know.

I have no idea as Ive literally never saw the described behaviour in my life.

I however go to a very large soft play regularly and given its at least 100 kids the wall of screaming noise hitting you when you enter is overwhelming. But it is a soft play to run around, jump around so of course there will be screaming there. It’s silly to expect it to be quiet.
Never seen kids just standing in a group and shrieking and screaming 🤷‍♀️

DodoTired · 28/03/2024 23:29

hellycotta · 28/03/2024 12:59

@DodoTired what's so wrong with you that you don't find screaming annoying? It's designed to be alarming for humans.

I do find screaming annoying but 1) I don’t expect the world revolves around me so all children should be quiet 2) I don’t hear too much of this specifically offensive magic screaming that so annoys people on this thread. Plus there are many other things I can find annoying in life, and I can’t expect that they will all disappear (see no 1 above).
for example I find stuck up curmudgeons really annoying but hey ho all I can do is argue with them a little on mumsnet 🤣🤣🤣

brunettemic · 28/03/2024 23:17

AutumnBride · 28/03/2024 18:53

So if the OP had said there was an elderly person having end of life care in a front bedroom you'd suggest moving them presumably ?

Having small children isn't a free pass for anti social behaviour, children need to learn to have consideration for others. We once had neighbours with kids who spent a whole summer squealing on a trampoline and it was excruciating.

It’s half an hour, maybe even, hold onto your hats here, 45 minutes of the day that OP is talking about. Not 8 hours straight.

WFH or, in your rather random and completely irrelevant example, someone with end of life care in a bedroom, also isn’t a free pass to expect others to bow down to you. I don’t buy for 1 second these kids are loud enough outside in the street for OP to not be able to make calls, that’s utterly implausible and I say that as someone who has WFH either all week or part of the week since 2018 who has kids and both next door neighbours have young grandchildren that are picked up most days by their grandparents.

SabreIsMyFave · 28/03/2024 22:26

DaBlackCatsAreDaBestCats · 28/03/2024 22:22

@SabreIsMyFave Nope, don't get it and I never will. Selfish arsehole parents raising selfish arsehole kids. Breeding generations of people who couldn’t give a shit

AMEN to that!

Theunamedcat · 28/03/2024 22:24

brunettemic · 28/03/2024 14:33

No, working from home is precisely the point that OP is whining about.

Most women in my family used to WFH we were fairly quiet kids they made sure of it

DaBlackCatsAreDaBestCats · 28/03/2024 22:22

@SabreIsMyFave Nope, don't get it and I never will. Selfish arsehole parents raising selfish arsehole kids. Breeding generations of people who couldn’t give a shit

SabreIsMyFave · 28/03/2024 22:05

DaBlackCatsAreDaBestCats · 28/03/2024 13:15

Same. I wasn’t allowed to scream. My kids weren’t allowed to scream. Who enjoys it? It’s a fucking nuisance

Yep!

I have no idea what kind of person enjoys the blood curdling screaming of children, but thank FUCK I don't live next door to them.

I used to work in housing, and the type of people saying 'kids screaming is OK' and ;people need to chill!' are the ones that would receive multiple complaints from neighbours. Neighbours of ALL ages.

I find some posts on here unbelievable ...

Are (some) people really this rude and obnoxious and thoughtless, that they think the right for their screechy rugrats screaming like banshees, trumps the rights of people enjoying their right to quiet enjoyment? The mind boggles. Confused

Maray1967 · 28/03/2024 21:17

Phrogg · 27/03/2024 16:14

Back in the day we weren't allowed to scream. It was just an unwritten rule and one of the things you Did Not Do. We have screamers on my estate and it's really annoying. I don't know what their parents are thinking allowing them to do it.

Yes, I was never allowed to scream and mine weren’t either - I can’t stand it. They got one warning and then I made them come in. Kids need to be taught to play without screaming. I don’t mind a bit of shouting but high pitched screaming is awful.