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askingaquestionaboutthis · 24/03/2024 08:34

Hi,

Partner of 9 years has finally (😂) started to make some noises about us getting married. He has floated the idea of a beach wedding in somewhere abroad (initial idea is Santorini) with just nearest and dearest (parents and bridesmaids etc) and our children there, followed by a party back home to celebrate where we can invite wider family and friends. He seems to think this would work out cheaper than a UK wedding. What are people's thoughts on the financial aspect of abroad versus home, and also just general pros and cons of each I might not have considered?

Thank you!

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Jk987 · 24/03/2024 23:23

It sounds like he's calling all the shots? Sounds as if you wanted to get married much sooner than 9 years into the relationship but waited.

burnoutbabe · 24/03/2024 22:55

I enjoy celebrating friends special occasions. But not if it will cost me thousands!

Happy to spend £150 on uk hotel and sane on trains, that's normal for uk.

Less happy when it's something needing 2 nights stay (ie starting very early) or somewhere miles from anywhere /involving changing locations during the day.

Much less happy when I am expected to travel overseas and spend a lot of money. Yes I can afford it, but I don't want to spend it that way (different if friend lives overseas of course)

CrappySack · 24/03/2024 22:10

askingaquestionaboutthis · 24/03/2024 19:17

@CrappySack

That's made my evening 😂

🤣 Honestly people can be so weird about weddings on here.

Thankfully, in real life, everyone I know loves celebrating their friends and family's special occasions.

Also congratulations! 🎊

DysmalRadius · 24/03/2024 21:35

If your sisters are going to be an important part of your wedding then bear in mind that the barriers to attending a wedding abroad are more significant than a UK one eg anyone ill enough to not be able to fly (ear infection, chicken pox etc) or cope away for a week, and with 3 kids that increases the chances. A more local wedding minimises the number of things that can go wrong esp if people can get there and back in a day in a worst case scenario.

bolwin1 · 24/03/2024 21:17

Our eldest DD got married in Santorini a couple of years back (delayed twice due to Covid).
It was about half the price for a similar set up at home, with pretty much guaranteed weather.
It was a wonderful day & the wedding party / guests met up several times before & after the wedding itself.
However, a few people did drop out either for cost or being unable to travel for various reasons (including her ex-best friend). There were around 20 attendees.
They went for one of the wedding venues on the cliff tops - the views were amazing, as was the general organisation. Everything got sorted all as one package.
Santorini isn't cheap, but it's not overly expensive either. Most of the guests spent 7-8 days there & treated it as a holiday abroad with the bonus of a wedding day / evening with close friends / relatives.
They had a big party when they got back home for their wider circle of friends.
There are a couple of Santorini wedding / bride facebook groups with lots of useful information & conversation.
With the exception of the missing guests, DD & SIL said their wedding day was perfect.

Stickyricepudding · 24/03/2024 20:55

@askingaquestionaboutthis If your partner is on a life support system or dies before marriage, you will not be seen as next of kin. His family would be in a legal position to make decisions, same with his financial circumstances. I read about a woman who was excluded from her partner's funeral arrangements by his family. This was because they weren't married even though together for over 10 years.

Your dd will inherit (everything will be held in trust for her) and/or his family rather than you. You will not be entitled to any bereaved spouse benefits or life insurance/pension. If you own a house together then his portion will go to his family &/or dd. I & many of my friends decided not have children before getting married for the above reasons.

martinisforeveryone · 24/03/2024 20:34

Well of course the man would be equally protected, we're talking about people who love each other wanting what's best for each other surely? and disposal of belongings, however trivial, can be very traumatic when there's no clarity.

But I'm not thinking of what happens to the other half's pension in the case of a break up, I'm thinking of worst case scenario type stuff. In the OP's situation her DP is not on good terms with his parents, but should something catastrophic happen and he ended up on life support, or let's not say the OP here but any random couple, I'd think it's important for the people who are loved the most to have a clear legal position. At the very least a formal Will and LPA.

Protection in the eyes of the law isn't only about when couples split up.

Concannon88 · 24/03/2024 20:24

martinisforeveryone · 24/03/2024 20:04

It's not all about material assets, although everyone has assets of some kind even if they don't amount to much. You should read the links posted on the legal position of people who live as 'married' but don't have any status in the eyes of the law.

No they don't. Having belongings is not the same as having assets. Getting married isn't all about women protecting themselves, the man would be as equally protected.

martinisforeveryone · 24/03/2024 20:04

Concannon88 · 24/03/2024 17:25

Protection from what? Shes already said they don't have assets

It's not all about material assets, although everyone has assets of some kind even if they don't amount to much. You should read the links posted on the legal position of people who live as 'married' but don't have any status in the eyes of the law.

Itloggedmeoutagain · 24/03/2024 20:02

askingaquestionaboutthis · 24/03/2024 08:59

Also my friend told me that a wedding abroad isn't legally recognised in the U.K. and so we'd need to pay for a ceremony here too to make it legal - does anyone know why this is?

Depends on the country.
We got married in Cyprus without doing another one here. We had to go to solicitors here before to get something signed.
Spain and France is def not recognised here. You have to do register office here as well

vanillawaffle · 24/03/2024 19:45

It doesn't take 2 years to plan a wedding, even a fancy one

vanillawaffle · 24/03/2024 19:44

mnahmnah · 24/03/2024 13:17

@RosesAndHellebores

I have never understood this argument. Just because you had children before marriage, you only deserve a minimal register office wedding? Why does them having children mean they can’t have a nice wedding day?

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What's wrong with a "minimal registrar office" wedding. Don't sneer at them they can be very romantic

tillytown · 24/03/2024 19:39

Honestly, if you want a wedding abroad just elope, have a little holiday, and then have a party when you get back. Why pass on the cost to your family? It isn't fair to your sister to presure her into taking time off work, buying new holiday stuff, passports, paying for a hotel, flights, food and entertainment for the kids, just so you can save money. It's a total dick move especially when you claim you won't do it if she doesn't come. You are basically telling her she would be ruining your wedding if she can't save every penny she makes just so she can attend.

ZoeCM · 24/03/2024 19:24

askingaquestionaboutthis · 24/03/2024 09:12

I know, but I've been legally unprotected now for 9 years 😂 what's a couple more?

I do get what you're saying though. He's really taken his time with this! And I haven't even got the ring on my finger yet FYI. He's just been making comments about it and opening discussion about it. So it's yet to materialise into a proposal, and I do hope that doesn't take another 9 years 😂

I've been flamed for saying this in the past, but I can't understand this. You're discussing wedding plans. By definition, one of you has already proposed marriage. Him getting down on one knee and pretending to ask you to marry him when you've already discussed it with each other is insane. It's like kids playing pretend.

RainStreakedWindows · 24/03/2024 19:21

@daliesque Calm your jets. It was only because OP had said if her sister couldn't go that would be a dealbreaker. So her sister is fundamental to her plans and if she's set on a wedding abroad it might be good to get input early.

Nosleepforthismum · 24/03/2024 19:20

So my sister is getting married abroad next year (Majorca) and some of the family have been grumbling about the cost already but I actually think it’s more the inconvenience of taking time off work, allowing at least 3/4 days away minimum, arranging pet care, trying to work out where they can stay near the venue/how much taxis might cost. I think there is also the assumption that because everyone can afford it, there won’t be any problem paying a few grand to attend but most people would prefer to put that money towards other things. None of which will stop them going but even though they’ve all been happy and supportive to my Dsis to her face there is an undercurrent of resentment from a couple of family members.

One thing to mention is that I’m not sure how much is being paid for the venue (but supposedly cheaper than the uk) but now it’s all booked and mostly paid for my sister has had some outrageous quotes for some of the other wedding bookings - the most notable being over £20k photographer and videographer for the day.

At the end of the day you can get married wherever you want but if it’s abroad and an expensive area like Santorini you need to be prepared for people to not attend. You may also find that the family will all agree to go as it’s three years away and suddenly panic when it’s only 12 months away and realise how sodding expensive it is.

askingaquestionaboutthis · 24/03/2024 19:17

@CrappySack

That's made my evening 😂

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askingaquestionaboutthis · 24/03/2024 19:16
  • can't believe you'd waste money on hiring a village hall. How flashy and wasteful. 💸💸💸

I got married round the back of Tesco with a mangy fox officiating then we all scavenged through the bins for food afterwards.*

😂😂😂😂

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rookiemere · 24/03/2024 18:36

OP I don't know much about abroad weddings, but I assume one of the main benefits is that it's mostly packaged up so you have less organisation to do so I would see no reason why you couldn't get married abroad next year rather than waiting for so long. It will be easier to for people to attend if it's next year as no one really knows what they are going to be up to in August 2027.

Absolutely take your time wedding planning and let your DP do the proposal in his way, but please get wills sorted out this week you never know what might happen.

daliesque · 24/03/2024 18:07

RainStreakedWindows · 24/03/2024 14:33

If you decide on abroad I'd talk to your sister too since it sounds like she's the one who might find it most difficult. Maybe you could talk to her about dates and locations so she could tag a holiday on as well somewhere she'd want to go rather than use up her holiday budget and annual leave just for your wedding?

WTF? So a bride and groom must now arrange their plans around another persons holiday wants?
I've heard everything now.

Merryoldgoat · 24/03/2024 17:33

The bottom line is no one cares about your wedding as much as you. Asking people to travel far for a period of time is an expensive inconvenience and as long as you recognise that then it’s fine and plan accordingly.

I also think the ‘party at home’ is self indication when you’ve had the wedding elsewhere. Either have a wedding or don’t.

LilianaVikavanovich · 24/03/2024 17:32

askingaquestionaboutthis · 24/03/2024 13:04

To give time to plan and save. I was advised by a friend that trying to plan a wedding in anything less than 2 years is horrifyingly stressful.

I hadn’t even met DH 2 years before our wedding !
We met and were married within 8 months , had a church wedding and a reception at the pub in the same village ( no favours or chair coverings )

Concannon88 · 24/03/2024 17:31

Lamelie · 24/03/2024 16:01

3 years time?!
That’s ridiculous. If you want a part have a party without the cost of travel. If you want the legal protection of marriage go to the registry office.
Good grief.

Wtf why is that ridiculous? Its 3 years not 30. Not everyone wants things instantly.

CrappySack · 24/03/2024 17:29

DaoineSidhe · 24/03/2024 12:53

just get married in the village hall or whatever ffs. Nobody really cares, save Santorini for the honeymoon

I can't believe you'd waste money on hiring a village hall. How flashy and wasteful. 💸💸💸

I got married round the back of Tesco with a mangy fox officiating then we all scavenged through the bins for food afterwards.

Concannon88 · 24/03/2024 17:25

Mrsttcno1 · 24/03/2024 14:39

It may not apply to you, but if there’s anything to be learned from Mumsnet it’s that pretending to want to get married and leading partners on, especially when there are kids involved, is incredibly common and the only person who ends up losing out typically is the woman.

My friends partner also had no reason to pretend, she never put pressure on over marriage, her partner even used to mention them getting married to her friends just as part of conversation, at one point he was showing me and the other girls engagement rings he’d supposedly been looking at! That didn’t stop him leaving her with 2 kids and no legal protection though.

If it was me personally, especially with a child involved, I would probably get “legally” married as in just on paper at the registry office so that you have that protection, then save and have your big special day whenever you can afford it. My best friend has just done this, they have actually just booked a beautiful venue in Northumberland for a 2026 wedding, but they have 2 young children together, so they went to the registry office a few weeks ago and got the legal bit done. It gives the best of both worlds really so you have the protection asap without having to compromise on your big day, my friend does not class the day they went to the registry office as their wedding day.

Protection from what? Shes already said they don't have assets