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To expect my husband to support me?

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pregahes · 23/03/2024 09:47

need some advice on a recurring issue with my husband. Whenever I feel upset or wronged by someone, he always dismisses my feelings or acts like he doesn’t care. It’s getting to the point where I feel like I can’t count on him to have my back.

For instance, during a recent long-haul flight, I put my seat back, and the person behind me kept pushing it forward. When I politely asked if I could recline my seat, she replied aggressively, supported by her husband. I called the flight attendant for assistance, and they resolved the situation.

However, my husband, who had his headphones on and missed the whole exchange, didn’t seem to care when I told him what happened. He simply shrugged it off and went back to his seat and said it isn't his problem, even though I was visibly upset and shaken by the incident.

This isn’t an isolated incident. My husband always seems to side with others instead of supporting me, leaving me feeling unsupported and alone. Am I being unreasonable to expect him to take my side in situations like these? I’d appreciate any advice or perspective on how to handle this. Thanks.

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Bloom15 · 23/03/2024 10:45

pregahes · 23/03/2024 10:40

@DidoKaftan I kind of agree with you. He's tired of it, but I know that I'm in the right - why should I let others walk over me or treat me unkind.

Isn't there such a thing as sticking up for oneself like in this situation?

He's the kind of guy that isn't bothered about anyone and never ever gets upset but anything. He doesn't let people upset him. I can't work out if it's me with the problem, him or if we are both just extremes

You sound exhausting- it sounds like you get into arguments a lot because you believe you are right. I am very laidback and cba with this

shockthemonkey · 23/03/2024 10:44

alwaysbuffingnails · 23/03/2024 09:58

I never recline my seat on flights but I've been reclined upon by the seat in front many a time and no one asked me if it was ok to recline.

Is it a thing to have to ask before reclining?

Apparently on Airmumsnet it is absolutely “a thing”. On all other airlines, outside of mealtimes, a quick check behind you to make sure there are no drinks or laptops and then you just slowly and gently recline (until you hear the crunch of cartilage against bone 😅).

I have never been asked by the person in front. I have also flown hundreds of times…

pregahes · 23/03/2024 10:41

@DidoKaftan it was a transatlantic flight and I didn't realise it was etiquette to recline after the meal - I will do that from now on

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pregahes · 23/03/2024 10:40

@DidoKaftan I kind of agree with you. He's tired of it, but I know that I'm in the right - why should I let others walk over me or treat me unkind.

Isn't there such a thing as sticking up for oneself like in this situation?

He's the kind of guy that isn't bothered about anyone and never ever gets upset but anything. He doesn't let people upset him. I can't work out if it's me with the problem, him or if we are both just extremes

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DidoKaftan · 23/03/2024 10:37

Allofaflutter · 23/03/2024 10:27

Classic Mumsnet. Op asks a question and people completely ignore question and jumps on OP for something that everyone outside of Mumsnet does too. To answer your question OP. No your husband isn’t normal. My dh is always on my side and I feel supported. I would ask him why he doesn’t support you.

Well, I agree most people don’t ask ( I would say the norm for, say, a transatlantic flight was for everyone to recline after the meal), but I think people are noting that the OP refers to regular incidents when she ‘feels wronged by someone’ and that she says this ‘was not an isolated incident’, and that she keeps saying he doesn’t ’take my side’. It’s possible that the OP is continually escalating minor irritations into major altercations and expecting matching outrage from her husband, who is tired of it.

I mean, I’ve been with DH happily for 30 years and I am struggling to think of an occasion where I’ve needed him to ‘take my side’ in this way.

littleroundcircles · 23/03/2024 10:35

Looks like this thread had been derailed with the rights and wrongs of putting your seat back. To be honest OP, I don't think there is a set etiquette for this. I usually put mine back partially as a compromise.

But to the bigger point about your DH supporting you, I 100% agree. You don't necessarily need him to intervene but it would be nice if he asked if you were ok rather than 'not my problem'.

Years ago I was in a relationship with a man like this. It all came to a head when we were on a train with some drunk lads who were bantering and trying to get me to talk to them. I wasn't really in the mood and said (politely) that I just wanted to get home and they all started jeering - my then boyfriend (desperate to be seen as 'one of the lads') actually joined in with them! They were calling me a spoilsport etc and he was actually laughing along. Later, he couldn't understand why I was upset with him.

If you're a team, you're a team. You might not always agree with your partner's actions or responses but you still check in with them to see if they're ok and if you need to, you help them defend their boundaries. I'd be upset too.

pregahes · 23/03/2024 10:32

@Maray1967 it WAS night time and long haul!!! It was about 8.30pm I put it back

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pregahes · 23/03/2024 10:30

@DidoKaftan I defiantly don't regularly get into altercations but I would probably say I escalate it - because I'm not going to stand for it! Who would stand for someone punching up their seat?!!!'

I'm 40 years old and I'm not going to let someone bully me. It made me feel I was back at school! Although I still asked if it was ok! And asked the flight attendant to sort, whether you call that escalating I don't know but I made it clear to the attendant to tell her to stop punching my chair.

Now yes that is escalating it I guess because I could have just done nothing and stayed upright for ten hours, that would have been the easiest thing to do but why should I?!!!!!

I'm not letting someone walk over me like that

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LivingDeadGirlUK · 23/03/2024 10:30

OP I agree that would piss me off tbh, I'm not sure I would want to be with a man who couldn't back me up, it doesn't bode well for stressful life events, like having kids, or nursing elderly relatives, or becoming sick. I know LTB is a bit extreme but at the moment you are obviously a capable woman, do you want to risk having to rely on him should circumstances change, do you want to have children with a man who is unlikely to stand up for them?

Maray1967 · 23/03/2024 10:29

pregahes · 23/03/2024 09:53

@DustyLee123 aside from when food is being served., there isn't a wrong time and food wasn't being served.

The way they spoke to me was disrespectful and he didn't care at all.

Is there a wrong time outside of during meal time not recline your seat because if there is I didn't know about it and even if there was when a couple is being aggressive to your wife I expect him to be on side. They thumped my seat forward and were really intimidating.

In my view no one should recline the seat unless it’s night time. It makes it very uncomfortable for the person behind.

Allofaflutter · 23/03/2024 10:29

Is this an isolated thing or is he as disinterested in all of your life too? If so has he checked out mentally?

CharlotteStreetW1 · 23/03/2024 10:28

No one ever asks about reclining because the person behind would invariably say no!

Allofaflutter · 23/03/2024 10:27

Classic Mumsnet. Op asks a question and people completely ignore question and jumps on OP for something that everyone outside of Mumsnet does too. To answer your question OP. No your husband isn’t normal. My dh is always on my side and I feel supported. I would ask him why he doesn’t support you.

DidoKaftan · 23/03/2024 10:27

Trickabrick · 23/03/2024 10:00

How often do these situations occur because to be honest, I’m struggling to think of a time I’ve had any sort of row with a stranger and certainly not one I felt I needed back up from my partner! Is it possible he doesn’t agree with how you interact with others so keeps quiet?

This. It’s hard to determine from what you say, OP, whether your husband is zoned out and unsympathetic, or whether you regularly get into altercations with others, and he simply thinks your behaviour invites it, or escalates it.

ZippedOpenMouth · 23/03/2024 10:25

Attryn · 23/03/2024 10:19

OP mine is like this and it's really hurtful. He either ignores things or just watches like I'm nothing to do with him. If he is in tricky situations I support him and help but he doesn't do the same back.

I can't see the point of a partner if they don't have your back and support you.

Next time don't bother . He needs to know how it feels not to be supported.

pregahes · 23/03/2024 10:24

I have no idea what posters mean about my story changing,

Nothing has changed - please point out what in my posts is contradictory and maybe I can provide clarity.

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EmilyTjP · 23/03/2024 10:23

alwaysbuffingnails · 23/03/2024 09:58

I never recline my seat on flights but I've been reclined upon by the seat in front many a time and no one asked me if it was ok to recline.

Is it a thing to have to ask before reclining?

No, only on mumsnet.

ZippedOpenMouth · 23/03/2024 10:22

@Attryn

But her husband doesn't support her ? She needs to show him how it feels . As she has said she's been there for him in tough times .

pregahes · 23/03/2024 10:22

@Picklestop to clarify I never said he was laughing at me with them that would be ridiculous!!

Later on in the flight he was laughing with the guy over something unrelated but this was after I told him what happened. It annoyed me because I would never be laughing with a couple that did that to him, about anything.

If you don't call punching someone's seat up twice and then raising your voice to them aggressive then I don't know what is

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Attryn · 23/03/2024 10:20

ZippedOpenMouth · 23/03/2024 10:14

Right . In future don't back him up if he is in a dispute or is upset . Just shrug your shoulders and turn away .

That's no way to live in a relationship though is it, if each party is shrugging their shoulders and not giving a shit about the other what's the point in being together?

IggOrEgg · 23/03/2024 10:20

I’m surprised at some of these replies. I wouldn’t expect my husband to jump in and defend my honour, so to speak, but I’d expect him to be aware of his surroundings enough to realise my seat was being punched and I was getting into a confrontation, and I would expect some support. I like knowing he always has my back, and I have his. Having said that, your story is changing more and more each time you post so it’s hard to know for sure who was being unreasonable!

ETA who is being unreasonable between you and your husband. The other couple were, without a doubt, unreasonable.

Picklestop · 23/03/2024 10:19

Really changing your story now aren’t you OP.

Maybe go and read your own first post again, because in that he had headphones on, didn’t get involved and shrugged when you told him about it.

Since then your posts have said that he not only befriended them but he joined in laughing at you. I suspect the first story is the more accurate depiction.

I think you are entitled to recline your seat, you don’t need to ask permission, but it is nice to turn around and say I am just about to recline in case they have a drink or something on their tray.

This was a mild interaction and I very much doubt they were being aggressive with you, maybe being firm or unfriendly at worst. I would not expect my husband to get involved in such a minor incident and you are being truly ridiculous to be doing the mumsnet “shaking” over such a non event.

Attryn · 23/03/2024 10:19

OP mine is like this and it's really hurtful. He either ignores things or just watches like I'm nothing to do with him. If he is in tricky situations I support him and help but he doesn't do the same back.

I can't see the point of a partner if they don't have your back and support you.

pregahes · 23/03/2024 10:15

@ZippedOpenMouth yes you're right but I find it hard because I actually care!

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ZippedOpenMouth · 23/03/2024 10:14

pregahes · 23/03/2024 10:10

@mondaytosunday yes exactly that, when we got off the flight I told him I expected more and he said he had three glasses of wine and wasn't interested

Right . In future don't back him up if he is in a dispute or is upset . Just shrug your shoulders and turn away .

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