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pregahes · 23/03/2024 09:47

need some advice on a recurring issue with my husband. Whenever I feel upset or wronged by someone, he always dismisses my feelings or acts like he doesn’t care. It’s getting to the point where I feel like I can’t count on him to have my back.

For instance, during a recent long-haul flight, I put my seat back, and the person behind me kept pushing it forward. When I politely asked if I could recline my seat, she replied aggressively, supported by her husband. I called the flight attendant for assistance, and they resolved the situation.

However, my husband, who had his headphones on and missed the whole exchange, didn’t seem to care when I told him what happened. He simply shrugged it off and went back to his seat and said it isn't his problem, even though I was visibly upset and shaken by the incident.

This isn’t an isolated incident. My husband always seems to side with others instead of supporting me, leaving me feeling unsupported and alone. Am I being unreasonable to expect him to take my side in situations like these? I’d appreciate any advice or perspective on how to handle this. Thanks.

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Lampslights · 23/03/2024 12:25

Dacadactyl · 23/03/2024 12:16

@Lampslights yes I know you didn't, but I'm just thinking what can cabin crew actually do if someone stands their ground, keeps their hand on the seat in front to prevent reclining?

As long as the person who doesn't want someone reclining onto them is polite throughout all exchanges, there is literally NOTHING they can do.

Generally they would call the captain to habe a word, tell the person to stop behaving in this manner, if they continue to do so, then yes they may consider divering it the person continued to escalate and refused to stop if they couldn’t move the people in front. They certainly would not be allowed to fly the airline again in either instance.

Fannyfiggs · 23/03/2024 12:25

Allofaflutter · 23/03/2024 10:27

Classic Mumsnet. Op asks a question and people completely ignore question and jumps on OP for something that everyone outside of Mumsnet does too. To answer your question OP. No your husband isn’t normal. My dh is always on my side and I feel supported. I would ask him why he doesn’t support you.

100% this.

OP you don't have a reclining seat problem, you have a husband problem. If that happened to me my DH would have been all over it and vice versa. There's no way I would allow someone to do that to anyone I was with let alone my DH.

What's he like normally. Is he kind and caring or is he usually a dick? Did he maybe want to diffuse the situation because you were in such close proximity for several hours or was he just being a dick?

As for everyone jumping on the OP for not asking before reclining her seat, that is not a common thing that happens. Passengers should be able to recline their seat without being abused by another passenger.

Ihearyousingingdownthewire · 23/03/2024 12:23

I just knew twats were going to derail the thread based on the reclining seat detail.

Whatever you bunch of martyrs think, fliers are entitled to recline their seat. It’s during landing, take off and meals that you can’t. Get over that.

BIossomtoes · 23/03/2024 12:18

Abeona · 23/03/2024 12:08

your husband should be on your side and be a person to provide emotional support.

No, not if you've been an arse. And no, I didn't sign up to be the default emotional support animal for my partner. I expect a partner to be able to manage situations they get themselves into and manage their own feelings to a great extent. In exchange I look after myself and manage my own feelings. I'm not my partner's security person or therapist and I don't expect a partner to offer those services to me.

This. I got into a spat with a really nasty red neck American on a flight once. He turned to my husband and said “Please will you control your wife?” My bloke raised his eyebrows and said “Good luck with that” and went back to his book.

Dacadactyl · 23/03/2024 12:16

@Lampslights yes I know you didn't, but I'm just thinking what can cabin crew actually do if someone stands their ground, keeps their hand on the seat in front to prevent reclining?

As long as the person who doesn't want someone reclining onto them is polite throughout all exchanges, there is literally NOTHING they can do.

THisbackwithavengeance · 23/03/2024 12:16

Well, having been on the receiving end of someone reclining a seat into my lap when I was holding an 18 month DC, I am struggling to sympathise.

But yeah, your DH should have your back. But maybe he thinks you're in the wrong and was embarrassed at your behaviour.

Lampslights · 23/03/2024 12:13

Dacadactyl · 23/03/2024 12:11

They are not going to divert a flight because someone prevents you from reclining your seat lol.

I never said they would? The point is poorly behaved passengers are not my problem, I wouldn’t engage, simply let cabin crew deal with them,

Dacadactyl · 23/03/2024 12:11

Lampslights · 23/03/2024 12:10

I fly regularly for work, never had an issue. And any passenger who is unwilling or making it awkward I’d not engage, I’d let cabin crew deal with them,

They are not going to divert a flight because someone prevents you from reclining your seat lol.

Lampslights · 23/03/2024 12:10

Dacadactyl · 23/03/2024 12:08

Well then you have to be prepared to come up against someone who is unwilling to let you recline, or who will make it awkward for you.

I fly regularly for work, never had an issue. And any passenger who is unwilling or making it awkward I’d not engage, I’d let cabin crew deal with them,

Flossflower · 23/03/2024 12:10

I would not want my husband getting involved. I can stick up for myself. I think you are quite right on an overnight trip to recline but yes I would always wait until after the meal. My husband has very long legs and he was once nearly kneecapped by someone going back really quickly without notice. When going back, I look round, make eye contact and then go back very slowly.

Abeona · 23/03/2024 12:08

your husband should be on your side and be a person to provide emotional support.

No, not if you've been an arse. And no, I didn't sign up to be the default emotional support animal for my partner. I expect a partner to be able to manage situations they get themselves into and manage their own feelings to a great extent. In exchange I look after myself and manage my own feelings. I'm not my partner's security person or therapist and I don't expect a partner to offer those services to me.

Dacadactyl · 23/03/2024 12:08

Lampslights · 23/03/2024 12:01

I actually disagree with this and think it’s fine to recline long haul outwith service and I don’t think you need to ask either, on this I’m with the op, the seats are made to recline. Ridiculous to buy a seat on a plane thinking the person in front can’t recline or it’s ill mannered.

i do though not align with the op and her little woman desire to get her husband involved In her arguments.

Well then you have to be prepared to come up against someone who is unwilling to let you recline, or who will make it awkward for you.

Picklestop · 23/03/2024 12:07

pregahes · 23/03/2024 10:22

@Picklestop to clarify I never said he was laughing at me with them that would be ridiculous!!

Later on in the flight he was laughing with the guy over something unrelated but this was after I told him what happened. It annoyed me because I would never be laughing with a couple that did that to him, about anything.

If you don't call punching someone's seat up twice and then raising your voice to them aggressive then I don't know what is

You definitely said he was laughing along with them. I think you are forgetting your story as you embellish it more with every post.

Anyway by your tone on this thread and some of the language you use, I expect you are regularly getting into spats with random people and your husband is absolutely sick to death of it, especially considering he is the one more likely to be punched in the face.

Lampslights · 23/03/2024 12:07

DaoineSidhe · 23/03/2024 12:03

You knew she did not want you reclining into her space, you did anyway. What makes your needs more important than hers? He rightly did not have your back because you were behaving so ignorantly.

She has the right to recline her chair as the cabin crew confirmed the space it reclines into is not owned by the other passenger.

DaoineSidhe · 23/03/2024 12:03

You knew she did not want you reclining into her space, you did anyway. What makes your needs more important than hers? He rightly did not have your back because you were behaving so ignorantly.

SofaSpuds · 23/03/2024 12:02

I was worried to go back to my seat because I will recline and she could get violent with me

Now you're just being dramatic 🙄
I've never had anyone ask if they can recline their seat, but I do think all seats should be unreclineable on an airplane - it's annoying for those behind you and just starts a domino effect until you get to the last row and they can't recline.

Lampslights · 23/03/2024 12:01

Dacadactyl · 23/03/2024 11:56

Don't recline your seat on flights...absolute height of entitlement unless it's an overnight flight.

Maybe your husband was embarrassed of you...I would have been.

I actually disagree with this and think it’s fine to recline long haul outwith service and I don’t think you need to ask either, on this I’m with the op, the seats are made to recline. Ridiculous to buy a seat on a plane thinking the person in front can’t recline or it’s ill mannered.

i do though not align with the op and her little woman desire to get her husband involved In her arguments.

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Picklestop · 23/03/2024 11:59

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 23/03/2024 11:32

And I didn't interpret that the OP actually wanted her husband to step in / tell the rude lady to fuck off or anything. Did everyone miss that she told him what happened and he actually said he didn't care, then had a nice joke with the couple that were being nasty? That's way beyond 'not getting involved'

Did you notice that she said nothing of the sort until people generally did not agree with her? He had earphones on and then shrugged in the first post. If my husband had a row about the seat with the couple behind him and then told me, I would probably shrug it off too.

tara66 · 23/03/2024 11:58

Having a seat in front recline on you for some people on some planes means they also have to recline their seat too and also those behind them etc as well , as there is then just no room for the person behind at all.
Fly First Class/Business Class for more room.

I never recline my seat unless person behind has already done so.
I always think people like you who recline on others must be first time flyers or they would not do it!

Dacadactyl · 23/03/2024 11:56

Don't recline your seat on flights...absolute height of entitlement unless it's an overnight flight.

Maybe your husband was embarrassed of you...I would have been.

BeaRF75 · 23/03/2024 11:54

It's 2024. Woman are capable of looking after themselves and don't need men to step in to "defend" them. (This is regardless of the rights and wrongs of any specific situation).

LiveLaughCryalot · 23/03/2024 11:54

Only read the OP but I'm going to hazard a guess that posters have 1. Concentrated on you putting your seat back and 2. Asked you why on earth you expect your husband to be there for you.
Don't bother replying @pregahes . There are some very damaged people on this board who have no idea about normal interactions 'outside'. They live in Mumsnet land. You should expect nothing from no-one but YOU should be a paragon of virtue 😊.

mrsdineen2 · 23/03/2024 11:52

When you say it's a recurring issue, but focus on one example, it's hard to form a clear picture. We have no idea if he's repeatedly lettig you down, or repeatedly embarrassed by your attitude, picking fights then expecting him to assume the physical risk.

Personally, when I've encountered people in real life who repeatedly assert that they won't be walked over in the manner you have, they're often the bullies themselves. Especially when they say their family share that attitude.

Genuinely assertive people who do it for the right reasons don't need to keep declaring it.

But then again that's also based on the very limited information you're providing, so I may be way off.

Freeme31 · 23/03/2024 11:41

Can't believe you still reclined your seat fully knowing that you were annoying someone. You sound a bit of a diva maybe your husband thinks this too ?

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