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Jesus held on the cross with nails in his hands

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TaFox · 20/03/2024 21:43

DD5 is in year 1 and has been learning about Jesus at school. Great stuff in the spirit of Easter.

The RE teacher told the class how Jesus was NAILED to the cross.

This is quite graphic for a little girl who believes that the Easter bunny will leave eggs in our garden.

Should I tell school that this is too much info for little ears?

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Telomeres · 20/03/2024 22:55

So not a phobia then.

VeniVidiWeeWee · 20/03/2024 22:54

Thebestwaytoscareatory · 20/03/2024 22:20

The Romans were in Britain before Jesus was even a twinkle in gods eye.

And hares have been kicking around these shores for thousands of years so what we assume are bunnies might have been hares 👀

Really? First Roman invasion of Britain was A.D. 43. So some 43 years after the birth of Christmas.

Flandango · 20/03/2024 22:53

Greenbike · 20/03/2024 22:46

This is not true. Jesus of Nazareth (the historical figure, who was very much real whether you believe in the religious figure or not - this is not in dispute among historians) died some time in the 30s AD/CE. The Roman conquest of Britain was 43CE. There were earlier attempts by Julius Caesar which didn’t result in a lasting occupation.

There is no evidence of a link between either rabbits or hares and Easter before the 17th century. Eggs are certainly an ancient fertility symbol for obvious reasons.

Jesus of Nazareth as a real person is very much in dispute among historians. There is no primary evidence of his existence. That doesn't mean he didn't exist but it is not correct to say it is not in dispute

GetWhatYouWant · 20/03/2024 22:53

Parker231 · 20/03/2024 22:43

Depends if that’s what you believe. At Easter we celebrate a couple of days off work and an excuse to eat too much chocolate.

Even if you don't believe it( I am an atheist and brought my children up as atheists), don't you think that as Christianity is the majority religion in this country and has had a huge and fundamental impact on our history over the past two millennia, that you should explain the basics of it to your children, in terms of general knowledge? Even if you just stick to explaining about Christmas and Easter, and say that while many people believe it, you don't, you're helping to give your children a more rounded view.

AnotherTroyforHertoBurn · 20/03/2024 22:51

I used to wonder how gravity didn’t kick in, came to the conclusion they probably used rope and there was the malteser joke and the one about the house…….

Even us card carrying Catholic’s knew that it was a version of the truth.

Easter bunnies are not part of the Easter story, but they are something lovely to do on an Easter Sunday.

Shiningout · 20/03/2024 22:50

I agree actually op. I don't think kids as young as 5 and 6 need to be hearing about people being crucified. There again if it's a religious school I guess they have to teach the story, unless they said he was stuck to the cross with sellotape or blu tac or something.

ZenNudist · 20/03/2024 22:49

cakeorwine · 20/03/2024 22:28

God wanted him dead.
God made Judas betray Jesus.
All part of the plan

Judas probably had no control over what he did

Nope Judas had free will, just like Pilate, just like the temple elders, just like the crowd who shouted "Crucify" (although they were rent a mob). The soldiers were following orders, but some of them had fun with it. God exists outside of time and what we experience as history is the outcome of free will.

But this is a bigger debate and I'm just going to go back to being tickled by the OP whose DD will, I'm sure, be OK.

Greenbike · 20/03/2024 22:46

Thebestwaytoscareatory · 20/03/2024 22:20

The Romans were in Britain before Jesus was even a twinkle in gods eye.

And hares have been kicking around these shores for thousands of years so what we assume are bunnies might have been hares 👀

This is not true. Jesus of Nazareth (the historical figure, who was very much real whether you believe in the religious figure or not - this is not in dispute among historians) died some time in the 30s AD/CE. The Roman conquest of Britain was 43CE. There were earlier attempts by Julius Caesar which didn’t result in a lasting occupation.

There is no evidence of a link between either rabbits or hares and Easter before the 17th century. Eggs are certainly an ancient fertility symbol for obvious reasons.

Shamoo44 · 20/03/2024 22:45

@ZenNudist We were all really little, the kids wouldn’t have had a clue, but interesting to reflect on as an adult, and I’m glad the teachings have changed.

I think I was more disturbed by the crown of thorns rather than the nailing of wrists.

TooBigForMyBoots · 20/03/2024 22:44

Thebestwaytoscareatory · 20/03/2024 22:20

The Romans were in Britain before Jesus was even a twinkle in gods eye.

And hares have been kicking around these shores for thousands of years so what we assume are bunnies might have been hares 👀

How very dare you compare the magnificent hare to a bunny.Angry Hares are amazing, intelligent, strong animals. Bunnies are mere animal feed. Grass for carnivores.

Parker231 · 20/03/2024 22:43

Flandango · 20/03/2024 22:41

That is the whole point of Easter. Jesus dies for our sins. You may or may not believe it, but for Christians Jesus died a painful death before rising again 3 days later. Being nailed to the cross is a key part of that.

Depends if that’s what you believe. At Easter we celebrate a couple of days off work and an excuse to eat too much chocolate.

CountryMumof4 · 20/03/2024 22:42

As a daughter of a vicar, who spent her childhood largely in churches, I can categorically say that I wasn't traumatised by this. Even after the reading of the Passion on Palm Sunday, and the (quite frankly, very depressing and sad) services on Maundy Thursday and Good Friday). Easter is a huge event in the Christian calendar. Children will learn about it from a very early age, as will they learn about mummification and Mayan history (which includes sacrificing children). It's not pleasant, but I don't know any children who have been actually traumatised by it. Perhaps upsetting and conversations needing to be had with parents about it, but it is part of culture - even if not a religion that someone is actively involved in. Children are resilient - far more than adults, sometimes.

That said, it's hard for a parent to see their child upset, and I'm sorry if yours has been. I'm certainly not disputing that children (and adults) could have a very real human reaction to learning about it, because it's hard to hear.

RemarkablyBrightCreature · 20/03/2024 22:42

TheNameIsDickDarlington · 20/03/2024 22:25

I thought this was going to be a thread about how the nails in his hands would just tear through the skin as soon as the weight was put on them so it would be more likely that the nails went through the wrists between the bones.

Anyway... is your DD in a faith school? I went to a Catholic school and there were crucifixes everywhere so it wasn't a shocking thing to hear about. Also if you've sent her to a catholic/CofE school then you must have expected her to learn about this?

If not I still don't think it's particularly shocking that a child learnt about the crucifixion and what easter is about. Has your Dd never asked about Easter?

My DC went to a secular school but were still taught about Jesus being brought back from the dead 🙄. Can’t escape it by avoiding faith schools sadly.

ManchesterLu · 20/03/2024 22:41

user1745 · 20/03/2024 21:52

She probably won't really fully understand how horrible it is to be nailed by your hands at her age. She will understand the words, but not just how gory it would have been, if that makes sense. The same as how we all learnt from a very young age how people were beheaded in the Tudor era, but we probably didn't fully appreciate the details of it (assuming no graphic images are being shown).

Yeah, this.

Flandango · 20/03/2024 22:41

That is the whole point of Easter. Jesus dies for our sins. You may or may not believe it, but for Christians Jesus died a painful death before rising again 3 days later. Being nailed to the cross is a key part of that.

Sloelydoesit · 20/03/2024 22:40

I'm also in the camp that new life - eggs, bunnies etc are much more fun to celebrate.
Christians took over the festival to indoctrinate everyone.
And why not chocolate?!!

ZenNudist · 20/03/2024 22:39

Shamoo44 · 20/03/2024 22:20

I remember this at my infant school, particularly the bit where the other children turned to me and said “you’re Jewish - you killed Jesus”. First time I was really really confused and felt really bad/guilty about my religion.

I'm sorry this happened to you. Presumably the teacher didn't hear this anti-semitic bullying.

The Catholic catechism teaches that the Jewish people were not responsible and that Christ died for every single one of us.

Catsmere · 20/03/2024 22:39

Precipice · 20/03/2024 21:54

If she'd ever been to a church (or seen many pictures of Jesus), she can see that often Jesus is portrayed on a cross with the nails also portrayed.

There is, however, dispute about whether crucifixion victims were generally nailed to the cross or tied to it.

And weren't the nails through the wrists and ankles? Through the hands they'd apparently just tear out.

MammaTill2Pojkar · 20/03/2024 22:38

Among other things Easter was appropriated into Christianity from Pagan celebrations (to make it easier to convert more people and erase Paganism).

"Easter actually originated as an ancient pagan celebration of the spring equinox. "

Tumbleweed101 · 20/03/2024 22:33

There are two elements to Easter - Christian and celtic. The Christian part is obviously the execution and resurrection of Jesus while the celtic part is the equinox, spring and new life (ie eggs, chick's, lambs etc).

Children need to learn about both elements as both influence our culture significantly. Which one you favour depends on your own views and religious leanings.

Gobbolinothewitchscat · 20/03/2024 22:32

KnickerlessParsons · 20/03/2024 22:30

Lots of people were nailed to the cross, not just Jesus. It was a fairly common punishment.

That’s true. There were two thieves on either side of him

WarshipRocinante · 20/03/2024 22:32

The nailed to the cross thing is taught right from the start. It always says “nailed to the cross.” She should already know that.

KnickerlessParsons · 20/03/2024 22:30

Lots of people were nailed to the cross, not just Jesus. It was a fairly common punishment.

Lesina · 20/03/2024 22:30

I was raised a Catholic and I am completely comfortable about the crucifixion of Christ as it was part of of the Christian belief. Whilst I’m now an atheist I struggle to explain the Easter bunny thing. Where did the Easter bunny come from?

cakeorwine · 20/03/2024 22:28

RemarkablyBrightCreature · 20/03/2024 22:25

It was most definitely the Romans 😳

God wanted him dead.
God made Judas betray Jesus.
All part of the plan

Judas probably had no control over what he did