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To be in this job and feel poor?

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fedippp · 20/03/2024 14:22

I trained for seven years, reasonably large student loan etc, to end up age 35 on 58k, and barely anything left at the end of the month!!! Mortgage is 1300 for a 2 bed semi, (up from 800 last year). Student loans are still hundreds a month. I have a car on finance as I couldn’t save house deposit and car deposit, need car for work. I eat beans on toast 3 nights a week. I feel like an idiot. I missed out on so much in my twenties to get into a decent job that I thought paid well and it seems to have been a waste of time! Does anyone else feel this way? I feel so disheartened.

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teacrumpetsandcake · 20/03/2024 16:20

I feel like an idiot. I missed out on so much in my twenties to get into a decent job that I thought paid well and it seems to have been a waste of time!

But you do have a decent job that pays well. Your salary is way above average.

The cost of living is ridiculous at the moment and most people are struggling.

It doesn't mean that it wasn't worth you working hard/ going to uni/ etc. You would probably be struggling more if you didn't do those things.

caringcarer · 20/03/2024 16:14

Hopefully the mortgage rates will come down a bit soon. Once inflation goes down B of E will reduce the interest rates. You are only in this position because your mortgage rates increased. You were doing fine before that happened.

TigBitss · 20/03/2024 16:08

Minikievs · 20/03/2024 15:29

I'm on less than the OP as a single income household with 2 DC.
It isn't a race to the bottom, and I don't like when posters are told they have nothing to complain about, "I earn tuppence ha'penny and go sweeping chimneys for 19 hours a day" etc.
But I really don't see how OP is struggling so much. Unless the financed car is an Aston Martin and there's £100k of credit card debt needing to be paid.

Where did I say there was nothing to complain about? Or that it was a race to the bottom?

Picklestop · 20/03/2024 16:01

IamRoyFuckingKent · 20/03/2024 15:57

Ignore all the people telling you you're rich, mumsnet is like that to anyone earning over 20p. I suspect you did something like medicine which means long studies and high loans. The only thing you can do if you're broke is increase your income (get a lodger, maybe just Monday to Friday?) or decrease your outgoings. Sounds obvious but that's what you're going to need to do. I am sorry though, interest rates, cost of living, energy bills, it's all a bit shit really. Much sympathy.

OP hasn't had responses like that. Many have made the very good point that this is a decent salary, not that OP is rich and has about £2k a month after the mortgage and student loans are paid, which seems like a reasonable sum for a single person. No not rich, but definitely should be manageable and it is curious that she cannot make ends meet.

IamRoyFuckingKent · 20/03/2024 15:57

Ignore all the people telling you you're rich, mumsnet is like that to anyone earning over 20p. I suspect you did something like medicine which means long studies and high loans. The only thing you can do if you're broke is increase your income (get a lodger, maybe just Monday to Friday?) or decrease your outgoings. Sounds obvious but that's what you're going to need to do. I am sorry though, interest rates, cost of living, energy bills, it's all a bit shit really. Much sympathy.

Ineedanewsofa · 20/03/2024 15:54

OP - I’m guessing due to the length of your training that it was something like veterinary which incurs huge loan expenses and tops out around the level of your wage if you are an employed practice vet. If you’ve decided against try to climb the career ladder any further then you’ll need to clear the loans asap in order to have the standard of living you want, so as PP suggest, sit down and do a detailed budget and be ruthless in terms of how to achieve it. Good luck 🤞🏻

Bjorkdidit · 20/03/2024 15:54

So according to listen to taxman, you should be taking home just under £3200 pm after 5% pension contributions and £270 pm student loans - or are you paying more than this?

So just under £2k after your mortgage, being generous £1500 after your car payment (when will it be finished? Can you then keep the same car for a few years? Then you'll feel better off?)

Have you minimised all your other expenses? You shouldn't really 'feel poor' unless your lifestyle expectations are unrealistic. And if they are, could you get a second job or a lodger?

Picklestop · 20/03/2024 15:49

Picklestop · 20/03/2024 15:07

How much she borrowed wouldn’t change the repayment, it would change how long it would take to pay off. OP’s monthly payment would be £230 on a salary of £58k.

Sorry £270 more likely.

Lizziekisss · 20/03/2024 15:48

@coxesorangepippin. I’m curious as to what you are getting at ?

Lizziekisss · 20/03/2024 15:47

@Nw22. Maybe but the loan was usually lots lower.

Nw22 · 20/03/2024 15:45

Plan 1 Student loan repayments are higher than plan 2

AllPrincessAnneshorses · 20/03/2024 15:42

coxesorangepippin · 20/03/2024 15:31

58k at 35???

Why not? DS of a friend was on 75k at 32

Purplevioletsherbert · 20/03/2024 15:42

Surely you can’t have long left on your student loans? I’m two years younger than you, earning less and mine will be paid off next year.

Lizziekisss · 20/03/2024 15:38

OP why are your student loans so high ? Surely at your age you were Plan 1.

woahhhh · 20/03/2024 15:37

OP, what's your take home oat each month
How much are your car repayment and student loans?
Commute costs?

Mountainclimber50 · 20/03/2024 15:34

Do you enjoy your job? What is it? Why do you think your wage won’t increase?

woahhhh · 20/03/2024 15:34

Peekaboobo · 20/03/2024 14:23

YABU your life sounds great! Whats the problem exactly?

Because surely when earning near twice the national average one would expect to be able to save a little and not have to eat beans on toast half the week.

It's crap. The OP is right. And for those on less it's crapper.

When wise in history was someone earning twice the national average aged 35 unable to save anything?

Chatonette · 20/03/2024 15:32

Peekaboobo · 20/03/2024 14:59

Why is your student loan huge compared to everyone elses?

Did you borrow loads and have a ball at uni? I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, in fact I think you should sow your wild oats when young but if you did, it's payback time. Just think of all the fun you had with that money.

The size of the loan doesn’t matter at the moment…OP will be paying back the same as everyone else earning £58k—it’s a set %. The size of the loan matters when it comes to how long it takes to pay off the loan. Even if her loan were smaller, she would still be paying the same monthly amount that she is today.

coxesorangepippin · 20/03/2024 15:31

58k at 35???

Minikievs · 20/03/2024 15:29

TigBitss · 20/03/2024 14:46

I think a salary like that only sounds as good as it is when it's part of a 2 person contributing household. Otherwise, it's the equivalent of 2 x £26k salaries which isn't great these days tbh.

I'm on less than the OP as a single income household with 2 DC.
It isn't a race to the bottom, and I don't like when posters are told they have nothing to complain about, "I earn tuppence ha'penny and go sweeping chimneys for 19 hours a day" etc.
But I really don't see how OP is struggling so much. Unless the financed car is an Aston Martin and there's £100k of credit card debt needing to be paid.

Mrsttcno1 · 20/03/2024 15:26

OP can you tell us your budget/outgoings?

I can’t understand how you can be left with nothing on your current salary unless you’re buying coffees and lunches out every day?

InterestedinEfteling · 20/03/2024 15:18

TheGreenManalishiWithTheTwoProngedCrown · 20/03/2024 15:02

Sell your car

Why do people say things like this? You can't sell a car that's on finance: you don't own it.

Hand it back then. Don't be pedantic.

telestrations · 20/03/2024 15:17

Sorry OP but you've chosen to do several very expensive things all at the same time. Living alone, buying and a 2 bed at that, and taking out a loan for car all while still paying off student loans.

And then interest rates and bills have gone up and everything has become even more expensive. As they have for everyone regardless of income. In an alternative universe you'd be facing eviction for not being able to afford the rent increase, but with no other options.

Because of your hard work you do have options. You can take in a lodger, you could rent your entire property out and move back home or into a friend's, travel or work overseas for a bit, you could extend the term of your mortgage, you could suspend auto contributions and pay into your mortgage instead and so on

Overthebow · 20/03/2024 15:12

fedippp · 20/03/2024 14:48

No wages unlikely to increase much now. Yes I live alone. I resent the fact that I should have to consider a lodger just to get by. It feels pointless having worked so much for so many years. My student loans are HUGE

On £58k your take home pay would be roughly £3300 after student loan payment is taken, and a standard pension contribution. After your mortgage you’re left with £2k for bills, food and anything else, that’s quite a lot and you don’t have nursery or other costs for DC. I’m not sure where the problem is?

usernother · 20/03/2024 15:12

Have you considered getting a part time job at night. That's what I did when I was hard up. Worked in a local pub a couple of nights a week.