What would you do?

Sashamalia · 2024-03-13T17:26:54+00:00

I just applied for a new job . And I've been offered the job. I sent in my references and they checked out. They are now still doing due diligence on me. I provided accurate dates for my most recent employment. I'm 40 When I applied for the role , I put every job since I left college on my CV. For the older jobs: jobs that were 10 + years ago, I put the years that I worked down. For example I wrote: I worked in this role, in this company, from 2012-2014. HR for my new job have now come back to me and said that they want me to put the starting month and finishing month down for each job. That just stating the year is not good enough for them. I genuinely don't remember anymore. I probably knew the month at one stage. But in my saved copies of my cv , i just have the year saved. I don't have saved contracts or job details from the older jobs. People that worked with me don't work there anymore. I'm stressed because- they're a really strict company and they really do their due diligence. I dont know what to do. They dont seem that flexible of a company. Im afraid to say that I don't remember. In case it makes me lose my job What's the best thing to do?

DanielGault · 15/03/2024 16:53

Well done! I totally wouldn't be able to trawl back that far. You must be delighted 💐

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Sashamalia · 15/03/2024 16:51

I have the months saved on my cv now for future

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Sashamalia · 15/03/2024 16:50

Just an update on what happened

I went through all my old email accounts for hours and I was able to find most of the dates for my really old jobs.

I had a yahoo email account that I used 15 -10 years ago. But then I stopped using it as gmail becme more popular.

I was able to log into that old yahoo email account and get some dates for the very old jobs.

I sent them all in. And I told her that Ive checked the dates, and it's as accurate as I can get it.

And it's OK, she said my file is complete , and i'm starting the job next week.

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Sashamalia · 13/03/2024 21:32

Yeah I'll just get it as accurate as i can from my old emails, and I'll do my best.

That's all I can do.

Thanks guys.

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pistachiosanscream · 13/03/2024 21:28

its only 5 years on my revenue account. However they are incredibly helpful so I’d advise you to use the “my enquiries” service to ask them for the details they have if your previous employments

DanielGault · 13/03/2024 20:09

SeaToSki · 13/03/2024 19:57

Dear Company X

I enclose the dates for my previous employers to the degree of accuracy that I have be able to establish with my supporting information including pay stubs, bank statements, personal photographs, past calendars and conversations woth colleagues and friends……Put every possible source in here so they go wow she has tried really hard……. Where I dont have personal records or recollections, I have called the companies directly and also checked my tax records with x government departments. Despite my best efforts, some information is still an estimate, and I have italicised these specific data.

Please let me know if this level of detail is acceptable and if you wish for further clarification, I would be grateful if you have any suggestions on how I could source the required data as I have done everything that I can think of.

kind regards SM

Hopefully putting the ball back in their court will get them to realise how crazy their requests are.

That last paragraph is wee bit passive aggressive, I'd leave that out. Or reword it or something. It's crazy though, I had to apply for garda clearance not too long ago and it wanted all my addresses ever. I hadn't a clue and had no real way of finding out. I put down what I could cobble together and they accepted that.

Trulyme · 13/03/2024 20:08

I always make it up as accurately as I can but fortunately most of my background is schools, so it’s much easier to guess.

Some employees want dates that include the day of the month too, which I think is so silly.

I have worked in prisons, which are one of the strictest professions for security and employment checks and they never found any issues with my dates.

SeaToSki · 13/03/2024 19:57

Dear Company X

I enclose the dates for my previous employers to the degree of accuracy that I have be able to establish with my supporting information including pay stubs, bank statements, personal photographs, past calendars and conversations woth colleagues and friends……Put every possible source in here so they go wow she has tried really hard……. Where I dont have personal records or recollections, I have called the companies directly and also checked my tax records with x government departments. Despite my best efforts, some information is still an estimate, and I have italicised these specific data.

Please let me know if this level of detail is acceptable and if you wish for further clarification, I would be grateful if you have any suggestions on how I could source the required data as I have done everything that I can think of.

kind regards SM

Hopefully putting the ball back in their court will get them to realise how crazy their requests are.

DanielGault · 13/03/2024 19:53

Sashamalia · 13/03/2024 19:45

Hi thanks I am registered. And I can log in.

But under employment history, it is only showing me the last five years.

Can you see further back than that on it?

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Have you looked on the welfare.ie site? They do have some information on there and it's a bit less fort Knox

SpringSprungALeak · 13/03/2024 19:52

@Sashamalia

take a deep breath!!

Do your best, get the information sent off to them or you'll stand out as being disorganised & a PITB.

if YOU can't find the exact date, they won't be able to either

best of luck with the job!!

MereDintofPandiculation · 13/03/2024 19:49

I would add the dates you remember and on the others make it clear when there was no employment gap.

DanielGault · 13/03/2024 19:48

Sashamalia · 13/03/2024 19:45

Hi thanks I am registered. And I can log in.

But under employment history, it is only showing me the last five years.

Can you see further back than that on it?

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I can't remember but I think you're probably right in that it wasn't a full history. But I do think it gave me a history of a job that I was in going back a good bit further than years, I had just left it recently. If that makes any sense 😬

Mothboobies · 13/03/2024 19:45

I would just explain i cant remember and none of it exists anymore. Iv been in the workplace over 20yrs and those early days may as well be the stone age 😂 if they want you, they'll accept it. If they don't and treat you as that expendable, did you really want the job anyway?

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Sashamalia · 13/03/2024 19:45

DanielGault · 13/03/2024 19:42

www.revenue.ie there's a login where it'll give you the option to register (top right of the screen iirc) but they'll have to send you out a pin in order for you to log in. It gets sent quick enough but it means you won't get in til next week. The employment history is handy though and you can request balancing statements and request refunds for medical expenses etc. it's worth doing

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Hi thanks I am registered. And I can log in.

But under employment history, it is only showing me the last five years.

Can you see further back than that on it?

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DanielGault · 13/03/2024 19:45

Sashamalia · 13/03/2024 19:43

Fellow irish ladies.

Where are the job details on Revenue.

I'm looking at it on my mobile, so maybe I'm not seeing everything. I must look at it on my laptop later.

But I can only see employment documents going back the last five years on revenue

I'm not sure it does go back very far. You have managed to get in so?

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Sashamalia · 13/03/2024 19:43

Fellow irish ladies.

Where are the job details on Revenue.

I'm looking at it on my mobile, so maybe I'm not seeing everything. I must look at it on my laptop later.

But I can only see employment documents going back the last five years on revenue

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saltinesandcoffeecups · 13/03/2024 19:42

What has the HR people suggested when you explain you don’t have the dates and in at least one case the old company doesn’t have them?

DanielGault · 13/03/2024 19:42

Sashamalia · 13/03/2024 19:31

For people saying to look at revenue in ireland. Do you know where to go on it?

I'm looking at it and I can just see an employment history page for the last five years.

Is there any other page that I'm not seeing. Thanks

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www.revenue.ie there's a login where it'll give you the option to register (top right of the screen iirc) but they'll have to send you out a pin in order for you to log in. It gets sent quick enough but it means you won't get in til next week. The employment history is handy though and you can request balancing statements and request refunds for medical expenses etc. it's worth doing

Welcome to revenue.ie

Office of the Revenue Commissioners

http://www.revenue.ie

Mummame222 · 13/03/2024 19:40

LadyLolaRuben · 13/03/2024 19:33

Not at all. They're looking for gaps in employment and any reasons for this. For all they know applicants could be trying to hide prison sentences etc

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They can ask said jobs for references.

Clarinet1 · 13/03/2024 19:38

I think you are better off explaining that some dates are your best-guess estimates rather than making up dates and just giving those. Otherwise if it comes out that dates are incorrect, surely the employer will be more concerned that you are trying to cover something up - even if you’re not!

LadyLolaRuben · 13/03/2024 19:36

Cyclealong · 13/03/2024 19:32

Yeah, it’s obviously so important that no records are kept of it. Explaining the situation to her sounds like the sensible and obvious solution so not sure what all the angst is about unless you are applying to MI5

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Doctors, nurses, clinicians, nhs staff etc must have every month and year accounted for. When people are vulnerable - ill, under anaesthetic etc they need to cared for by workers who are fully checked out

LadyLolaRuben · 13/03/2024 19:33

Mummame222 · 13/03/2024 17:33

Seems a bit OTT and invasive.

Not at all. They're looking for gaps in employment and any reasons for this. For all they know applicants could be trying to hide prison sentences etc

Cyclealong · 13/03/2024 19:32

Sashamalia · 13/03/2024 19:29

You can't make up dates for jobs in financial services.

I don't think you realise how extremely thorough they are.

I have contacted my old ompanies.

Some of them don't know the dates i worked there, because none of the same staff are there and they don't retain data after so many years.

I'm checking my old emails, and I'm going to try to get it as accurate as i can
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For the ones i cant get im going to say to her that I can't give her exact dates for some jobs , but I can give her an approx date

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Yeah, it’s obviously so important that no records are kept of it. Explaining the situation to her sounds like the sensible and obvious solution so not sure what all the angst is about unless you are applying to MI5

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Sashamalia · 13/03/2024 19:31

For people saying to look at revenue in ireland. Do you know where to go on it?

I'm looking at it and I can just see an employment history page for the last five years.

Is there any other page that I'm not seeing. Thanks

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Sashamalia · 13/03/2024 19:29

Cyclealong · 13/03/2024 19:00

Exactly.

You seem to be making an unnecessary drama out of this.

Contact the companies to ask for the dates. If they don’t know then you can fit them round the ones you do have and make up any missing ones.

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You can't make up dates for jobs in financial services.

I don't think you realise how extremely thorough they are.

I have contacted my old ompanies.

Some of them don't know the dates i worked there, because none of the same staff are there and they don't retain data after so many years.

I'm checking my old emails, and I'm going to try to get it as accurate as i can
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For the ones i cant get im going to say to her that I can't give her exact dates for some jobs , but I can give her an approx date

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