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I live in a road with a school

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Truffle55 · 10/03/2024 18:40

Apologies in advance for the rant and slightly long message…

I live in a road with a primary school at the end. I’ve lived here for 25 years and I totally understand that parents need to get their kids to school - I too, need to do the same.

But…

Recently the behaviour of the parents dropping off and picking up their DC has been, frankly awful.

I have come home from picking my DC up from school to find someone parked on my drive! And now, someone thinks it’s “ok” to park across the T-junction into the road. This means I have to drive around them and into cars coming out of the road (from dropping off/picking up DC) to get onto my driveway (assuming no one is “borrowing” it).

I do understand people need to take their kids to school, I have to do it too! But really? Why are they so inconsiderate? When I pick my DC up from school I park away from the school… and we have an agreed process if I’m not there due to not being able to park SAFELY (I do get that DC is at secondary school and its easier to do this).

However, the parking by my house is getting out of control - the person who parks across the junction lets the children get into the car - roadside…. This is just dangerous!?

I’m at the point now that I just push through the cars because I feel “I live there, and I have right of way” - but that makes me uncomfortable.

And, let’s not talk about the addition is of an ice cream van!

Anyway, I’m considering contacting the school or even the police to see if they can do anything - sadly, I really feel, it is an accident waiting to happen 😕

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SmudgeButt · 11/03/2024 17:28

in our area there's a way to send video recordings of illegal driving and parking to the police. And the registered keeper of the vehicle then gets a notice to prosecute posted to them. So just go out and film some of these ridiculous people and let the police get on with the nasty bit.

as for the jokers actually using your drive ("oh but I was only 5 minutes!!") I'd be parking my car across the drive and going for a long walk. Or going inside and taking a nice long hot bath!!

Truffle55 · 11/03/2024 17:07

HauntedBungalow · 11/03/2024 16:53

There's probably someone bitching about you on the neighbourhood group next to the school you drive your DC to so it all evens out.

The difference is, I don’t park across driveways, on corners or obstruct dropped curbs. And I certainly do not park on other people’s driveways!

There is one poor person here who has to drive their mobility scooter down the middle of the road as there is no other choice.

This is not safe and is not right 🙁

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HauntedBungalow · 11/03/2024 16:53

There's probably someone bitching about you on the neighbourhood group next to the school you drive your DC to so it all evens out.

Truffle55 · 11/03/2024 16:51

Thank you so much to everyone who has replied - I am clearly not alone!!

To those wondering why I drive my DC to school - I pass the school on the way to work and also (on occasion) pick up a work colleague who lives near the school. So, it makes sense.

To add to my initial post (and after discussing), it is obvious that it has got a lot worse since Covid and the school has not only increased in size (one class per year to two, or maybe even three now) but it also decided to open up the back entrance to some year groups and this is at the end of my road.

It wasn’t at all like this when we bought the house 25 years ago - busy, obviously. But not the inconsiderate parking/driving that is seen now.

Clearly it was amazing when my DC came along as it was easy for me/us. But since then, it’s jut got worse and worse.

At the end of the day, we, as parents are all trying to do the same thing - get our kids to school safely. But there is no need to be inconsiderate to the people who live nearby.

Not to mention….

Think. Ambulance.

Think. Fire Engine.

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Bunnyasmyname · 11/03/2024 16:39

Beezknees · 11/03/2024 09:21

We walked 40 minutes each way from when DS was in reception. Obviously if you need to go to work after in the car then you have no choice but 45 minutes isn't far, people have just become lazy.

It might not be far to you, but it is to me.
Mot that I have a spare hour and a half to walk anyway!

Thereader91 · 11/03/2024 16:35

Contact the school. Someone from my DCs school was blocking someone's drive and the head put it in the weekly news letter, that was a couple of months ago and I assume it's stopped because we haven't heard anything since. Parking is horrible around schools 😞

CactusMactus · 11/03/2024 16:32

I saw one classic drop off the other day. Dad parked on a mini roundabout and literally chucked his primary school children out of the car and pointed in the direction of the school which was up a one-way street.

IanCurtisdancing · 11/03/2024 16:19

A few weeks ago a parent with her kids in the car completely blocked the road and refused to move over to allow a resident to get to her drive. When she eventually backed up, she opened her car window and gobbed up the residents car.

HauntedBungalow · 11/03/2024 16:06

Our local Facebook had a man complaining that people couldn't walk the kids to school and then drive to work

I hope he walked to work.

TesticularHeft · 11/03/2024 16:04

I don't think it can be compared to many years ago. There are more kids in school so more people and car traffic. Also, there are likely more mothers working which means they have to jet off after drop off. Our local Facebook had a man complaining that people couldn't walk the kids to school and then drive to work - couldn't comprehend that work started not long after the school drop off meaning most have a frenzied drop off situation.

Since Covid, a lot of people can work from home but may still be unable to walk kids to school and be back in time so they drive.

It's all very well and good recommending cycling but if you have three kids it will take forever and at least one of them is likely too small to have their own bike. As a family of cyclists, it simply isn't safe to have a small child in a seat on the roads nor is it safe or legal to cycle on the pavements.

I can certainly see why modern life means people are more likely to drive for pick ups. I can't see why they need to park and drive like animals. I also can't see why a lot can't walk if they can sit outside school for a minimum of 30 mins prior to pick up. I hate cars idling and every day the school has people who do not live far sitting outside. When I've had the privilege of picking DD up, I arrive at the end of the school day, park safely and am able to nip in and drive off. If I could walk I would but work means I have to drive.

HauntedBungalow · 11/03/2024 16:04

accident involving a child or a lorry driver turning green and rampaging shouting "PRIME SMASH".

What.

Hereforaglance · 11/03/2024 16:02

Seems parents in the school run are aloud to do as they please know a person who lives five min walk from her kids school n insists in driving there lol parents on the school run are the worst sort of road users imaginable

FlameGrilledSquirrel · 11/03/2024 15:48

I live near a school entrance and have done for quite a few years. Although it got busy pre covid, as you'd expect, it's getting absolutely ridiculous now.

Cars get more or less abandoned. Corners of T junctions? Across drive ways? You name it, they do it.

Then there is the acceleration to fill the tiniest of gaps that a) get them nowhere near actually going anywhere and b) ensure that oncoming traffic can no longer move.

God alone knows how there has only been one accident involving a child or a lorry driver turning green and rampaging shouting "PRIME SMASH".

The catchment area is relatively small and there are footpaths which make walking often far quicker than driving. Of course there are an increasing number of self important idiots who are absolutely too important to walk. And work from home...

Misthios · 11/03/2024 15:44

However.....I don't have a perfect solution.
Maybe proper catchments where all pupils live in either walking distance or if further a school bus is provided.
"Walking bus" schemes.
Primary schools allowing the older children to walk to school by themselves (many only allow it in Yrs 5 and 6)

we have all of this in Scotland and still have dickish parking.

HunterHearstHelmsley · 11/03/2024 15:25

Needmorelego · 11/03/2024 14:55

@HunterHearstHelmsley but that's the thing - people cannot be expected to stop their lives just because some people can't park sensibly.
However.....I don't have a perfect solution.
Maybe proper catchments where all pupils live in either walking distance or if further a school bus is provided.
"Walking bus" schemes.
Primary schools allowing the older children to walk to school by themselves (many only allow it in Yrs 5 and 6).

Yeah, I don't disagree. There's many reasons the school streets won't work for this particular school but the list of exemptions is daft. Particularly when it doesn't clarify that Tradesmen etc have to be visiting houses on the street. The only exemption that does say about visiting houses on the streets is blue badge holders, which feels off to me.

Edited to add.. the times of our scheme are 8.15 - 9.15 and 2.45 - 4. Crucially, you can leave the streets during this time. You just can't enter.

RealOrFakeFlowers · 11/03/2024 15:07

Our council sends enforcement officers who sit in the car and don't actually seem to deter anyone. There is a parent of a large Mercedes who parks on double yellows on a blind bend.

I have mentioned this to the officers who don't appear to give a monkeys. They're too far away to see unless they actually patrol up and down the street.

I drive (rarely to school) and wouldn't dream of parking so badly. It's definitely the same parents I see day after day doing the same. Most parents park a little further and walk. But it's a large school. Must make the residents mad.

PuttingDownRoots · 11/03/2024 15:03

The only thing tat will stop them is weekly, if not daily, parking warden visits, or cameras that can be used to issue fines.

They won't care until it costs them.

Needmorelego · 11/03/2024 14:55

@HunterHearstHelmsley but that's the thing - people cannot be expected to stop their lives just because some people can't park sensibly.
However.....I don't have a perfect solution.
Maybe proper catchments where all pupils live in either walking distance or if further a school bus is provided.
"Walking bus" schemes.
Primary schools allowing the older children to walk to school by themselves (many only allow it in Yrs 5 and 6).

shadyboots2024 · 11/03/2024 14:55

SignoraVolpe · 11/03/2024 14:00

35 years ago we had this.
It never bothered me but I walked if possible.
It's a 30 minute problem twice a day.
A friend blocked me in once assuming I was in as my dc was at the school.
Tbf you knew the school was there when you bought the house.

I mean I didn't think they were all going to park illegally blocking a junction, making it impossible to pull out, drag children across the road between cars and generally block the whole road

When there's a carpark there for them
Stupidly I imagined people would use the carpark and walk the 25m down the pavement to the school gate

HunterHearstHelmsley · 11/03/2024 14:40

Needmorelego · 11/03/2024 13:15

@HauntedBungalow it's not "short lived minutes" - it's essentially almost 3 hours a day residents are prevented from doing everyday things they need to do - like getting a taxi outside their home to get to medical appointments (which we do regularly).
I am hoping the one by me (still in trial stage) will change to allow taxis and deliveries.
Edit : sorry I thought you were referring to a "School Street" traffic zone.

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The one by me is farcical because of the exemptions.

  • Any vehicle with a permit
  • Blue badges that live in the street
  • Council vehicles
  • Emergency services
  • Postal services
  • Delivery services
  • Public transport
  • Taxis
  • Tradesmen
  • Funerals
  • School staff or anyone visiting the school in a professional capacity.
JenniferBooth · 11/03/2024 14:33

SignoraVolpe · 11/03/2024 14:00

35 years ago we had this.
It never bothered me but I walked if possible.
It's a 30 minute problem twice a day.
A friend blocked me in once assuming I was in as my dc was at the school.
Tbf you knew the school was there when you bought the house.

And people in social housing who have no choice where they are allocated to?

potato57 · 11/03/2024 14:31

We need a school bus system like the US. Or some other system - I'm sure Uber could come up with something that makes more sense.

It's crazy that so many people are wasting so much time every day unnecessarily. It's bad for the environment, it causes traffic problems for people who do actually need to go somewhere they have to drive to, it costs everyone involved money, and creates stress for all kinds of people.

HauntedBungalow · 11/03/2024 14:29

Allfur · 11/03/2024 14:00

That's terrible, such a shame its not safer

I know, but it's just how it is in the UK. Poor quality narrow roads, dark mornings and afternoons, long spells of inclement weather and just enough ice to impact two wheels but not enough for us to have an organised way of dealing with it. Combined with how much the childcare you need to pay while travelling to work costs and how low wages are that you feel even a half hour loss of worked time, in the context of no reliable public transport outside of London, your life as a working parent day to day is practically and financially much more difficult if you don't use a car.

ohfook · 11/03/2024 14:12

@user1477391263 it's fairly common where we are. If you can find an undersubscribed school in quite an affluential area it's as close as you can get to a private school experience without actually paying the fees.

SignoraVolpe · 11/03/2024 14:00

35 years ago we had this.
It never bothered me but I walked if possible.
It's a 30 minute problem twice a day.
A friend blocked me in once assuming I was in as my dc was at the school.
Tbf you knew the school was there when you bought the house.