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harveyluna789 · 09/03/2024 11:13

How important is learning to drive? We are at a bit of a crisis point with my DD. She is struggling so much 40 lessons so far and hating every minute. My DH says she is dangerous and refuses to ever take her out in his car so we have bought her a car and even in her car he shouts and screams at her BUT here is the bit in all this which I think is important and I need proper opinions on what to do.

At 17 my parents forced me to learn to drive I had 104 lessons and it took me 2.5 years to pass my test and I would say for that 2 years I was a nervous wreck - my dad like my DH refused to have me in his car so my mum took me out - she says now it was the most nerve wracking thing she has ever done BUT eventually I passed my test. I had a car for a year but anytime I drove anywhere would sweat buckets and feel sick. This anxiety would start the night before I had to drive to work - I would then be anxious all day at work worrying about the drive home and then I wouldn't sleep because I would worry about driving the next day. It was an all consuming anxiety but 1. I knew what caused it and 2. I had to just suck it up because without driving I couldn't get anywhere.

About 8 months after passing my test I went on holiday for a fortnight and my anxiety completely lifted as I didn't have to worry about driving anywhere for 2 weeks - as soon as I came home and knew I needed to drive to work the next day my anxiety came back with a vengeance. I carried on for about another year and I made the decision to move into the town and sold my car and have never driven since and my anxiety has never returned. I got so much abuse from everyone - driving is a a life skill and by giving up I am not going to be able to go places or get a decent job. Agree - it has made my life much tougher , especially when the kids were small and I have only been able to have jobs that are walkable or on a bus route.

I have never really spoken about my driving anxiety to DD because I didn't want her to have a negative view on driving but she wants to quit it doesn't help that this week she drove through a red light and almost mounted the pavement. I asked her what it is she finds tough and she says "it is the having to be super aware of your surroundings, change gear, watch the road, turn the wheel all at the same time - exactly the same as my issues and that she feels sick thew whole time she is in the car which she feels stops her learning to the best of her ability. We talked about changing instructors as hers shouts which my DH says to her actual face that no wonder "because she is a driving disaster" but when I struggled and I wanted to change instructors the instructor to me and my dads face that it wouldn't matter because "I was one of the worst he had ever seen" so my dad made me carry on with him - this was after 50 lessons and 54 lessons later I passed first time!

Problem is she is going to uni in September to do teaching and really to be a teacher she has to be able to drive.

I hate seeing her like this and I just want her to quit and be happy but like when I learnt everyone is saying it is a life skill and she just needs to persevere and she won't always feel anxious and I am always getting told that if I had persevered the anxiety would have subsided the more I did it but I honestly don't think it would.

My son is dyspraxic and looking back now I think I am too and that is possibly why I struggled - my DD has no other dyspraxic symptoms but I now suspect dyspraxia is the cause.

There is the option to perhaps try in an automatic which I tried about 10 years ago but the anxiety came back and I gave up yet again.

I know driving is a very important life skill but in this instance should we keep on forcing it or let her quit. Obviously I completely understand where she is coming from but DH, and my parents who have never had any driving issues say she needs to persevere and not give up like me.

Thoughts and opinions please!!

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buttondown · 09/03/2024 23:35

I struggled horribly with driving anxiety and tried to learn on and off from my early twenties until my mid thirties where I somehow got myself to a driving test and passed first time in an automatic.

Even after I passed it took me years to start driving motorways and new routes.. the only reason I managed any of that was because my husband is incredibly understanding and has the patience of a saint, he never shouted or lost patience with me through many many hours of me driving around car parks or panicking. He never made a big issue when I took the long route to get somewhere to avoid parts I was nervous about.. being able to build my confidence slowly was huge for me, I'd really recommend finding a kind instructor and a better environment for her to practice before she's completely put off driving forever..

PonyPatter44 · 09/03/2024 23:20

Perhaps she'll be a better driver when she hasn't got a screaming dad and a quivering mum in the car with her. Encourage her to carry on with her lessons because driving is a pretty useful life skill. Do you have any brave friends who would go out with her?

Moveoverdarlin · 09/03/2024 23:15

Change her instructor. She has to persevere. I passed my test on my 6th attempt. Started lessons at 17, passed my test finally at 20. Years of stress, I did have a medical condition that made it harder. I remember coming home on NYE crying after failing for the 5th time. I got a female instructor and then passed in the June. That was 20 odd yrs ago. I wouldn’t say I’m a confident driver but I’ve got a car I love and my life would be very very difficult not driving. I live very rurally and my children’s school is miles away. Like I said I was very close to giving up and my condition would have been a reasonable excuse to not continue, but oh my god, I’m glad I did. It’s absolutely enhanced my life.

AngryBookworm · 09/03/2024 23:15

Echoing what others have said - give her time. Get her a different instructor to have lessons with if she's happy to have them but if not, leave it for a bit. I find driving scary and found age really helped with perspective both on driving and parental pressure. My cousin trained to be a GP and only learned to drive when she had to, which was one of her placements. She's not going to be asked to drive in her first year at uni and in fact is perhaps safer not being 'the one who can drive' at that age.

Foxblue · 09/03/2024 23:08

... sorry, your husbands shouts and screams at a nervous driver he's trying to teach?
It's interesting, isn't it, what behaviour some people think is acceptable for their kids to get the brunt of - bet he wouldn't do that with anyone else in the car. No wonder she is bloody nervous.

Davros · 09/03/2024 23:05

Can't she just wait until she's older, when she's more likely to want to do it herself instead of being bullied into it? I had lessons at 18, hated it and saw no point as I didn't want a car and drank like a fish. I learnt again when I was 28 and it was much better

SnapdragonToadflax · 09/03/2024 23:03

Get her to try an automatic. I felt like you about driving - the anxiety, feeling sick the night before, everything. When we got an automatic suddenly I could drive. It's completely different.

Copperoliverbear · 09/03/2024 23:01

Automatic lessons with a proper instructor

EC22 · 09/03/2024 23:00

I hated learning to drive til I changed instructor.

Abitofalark · 09/03/2024 22:58

Reading this reminded of something I came across a few years ago - a special facility for young people where they learn to drive away from public roads. There's one I remembered in Surrey and another that came up in a search is in Dudley They're designed for under 17s who don't have a licence but I wonder if she could get tuition at one of these or if there is anything similar available for over 17s.

http://www.under-17driving.co.uk/off-road-driving-lessons.html

MagnoliaBrown · 09/03/2024 22:20

locean · 09/03/2024 22:15

Just to counter all the ‘get an automatic’ suggestions, it doesn’t help my anxiety at all. I don’t have any issues changing gears, I ‘just’ have crippling anxiety about driving. I actually prefer manual. DH has an automatic and I feel less in control with just ‘drive’ as an option.

The biggest barriers right now to this girl learning to drive are the men shouting at her in the car. You might find she improves without them around.

I live where there's a lot of hills so that's why I like automatics. I don't think there can be any doubt that automatics are easier.

locean · 09/03/2024 22:15

Just to counter all the ‘get an automatic’ suggestions, it doesn’t help my anxiety at all. I don’t have any issues changing gears, I ‘just’ have crippling anxiety about driving. I actually prefer manual. DH has an automatic and I feel less in control with just ‘drive’ as an option.

The biggest barriers right now to this girl learning to drive are the men shouting at her in the car. You might find she improves without them around.

MigGirl · 09/03/2024 21:59

I would say switch her to an automatic, I resisted one for years. Then we got.an electric car 2 years ago (they are automatic) and absolutely love it, it makes driving far easier.

Also stop letting you DH take her out. The last thing she needs is him shouting at her.

Bythefireside · 09/03/2024 21:49

LauraNorda · 09/03/2024 11:16

Your husband needs to stop shouting and screaming at her, first and foremost.

At the end of the day, if she doesn't want to learn or isn't ready to learn, you can't force her.

We stopped husband taking dd out to drive he’s a terrible passenger. She did much better with me, took over a year but she passed and is doing really well .

KattyBoomBoom95 · 09/03/2024 21:49

Tough one. I'm not generally in favour of doing anything that causes that much stress but it does get easier. Once the actual technique is second nature it's easier to focus on what's going on around you.

wintermam21 · 09/03/2024 21:46

I failed my test 5 times and when I passed it really was the best feeling ever! There is so much freedom in being able to drive. It was only after passing that I learnt how to drive confidently and have never looked back since.

MagnoliaBrown · 09/03/2024 21:43

This whole situation is nuts.

Why is her driving instructor, who you are paying to teach her, why is he shouting at her?

My dd is seventeen, I am terrible at taking her out in the car. I'm a primary school teacher but I can't teach her to drive! I hate it. So I go to work so I can pay someone to teach her! My dd is learning in an automatic.

I think you should get a new instructor, maybe a woman.

I agree with you that she should be encouraged to keep going.

GermaneGermer · 09/03/2024 20:59

SecondHandFurniture · 09/03/2024 19:54

No DH practice, no shouting. EVER. If my dad had taken me out and shouted at me I'd have just got out of the car and walked home.

It took me about 80 hours I think but I've been driving for 20 years and never took a parent out until after I passed my test.

As an aside no 'buts' needed. 80+ hours are perfectly normal.
https://www.insurelearnerdriver.co.uk/how-many-driving-lessons-does-it-take-to-pass-my-driving-test

That's split into 45 hours of lessons and 22 hours of practice. But the latter figure is always ignored.

A lot of shit instructors used to having teenagers with additional practice get really angry and impatient with independent learners. My patient instructor had lots of the latter so was really good at measuring pace.

WaitingForMojo · 09/03/2024 20:38

Automatic all the way.

I passed my test at 40. I’m still shit, but can manage driving locally. Does your dh really think she’s going to get better because he says she’s crap?

Not being able to drive as an adult is awful, really awful. Especially if you have kids. I’d persevere, but automatic, and no lessons with parents. I passed after an intensive course of 54 hours.

L1ttledrummergirl · 09/03/2024 20:38

Nobody should be shouting in the car. No wonder she's anxious.

Change instructors and keep your dh away from her. I taught all three of mine to drive, I've been taken up kerbs-dd 3 times- but never felt the need to shout, that's when you need to be calmer.

SouthEastCoast · 09/03/2024 20:36

Shouting and getting angry is no good.

I would say driving is super important for full independence unless you live in Brighton or London or similar places where literally no one drives and parking is hassle.
but she doesn’t have to learn just yet if she isn’t ready.

strawberryblue · 09/03/2024 20:32

Automatic car lessons

More sympathetic driver

And hypnotherapy for anxiety!

Xx

fishfingersandtoes · 09/03/2024 20:22

If she wants to continue she needs teachers who don't shout.
If she doesn't want to continue that's fine, she can live somewhere with good public transport or cycle or get taxis or learn later. I don't drive. I'm a teacher I live in London and travel by walking, tube, bus, the occasional Uber and train.
Can she ride a bike? Maybe sell the car and get a decent bike with a trailer.

SecondHandFurniture · 09/03/2024 19:54

No DH practice, no shouting. EVER. If my dad had taken me out and shouted at me I'd have just got out of the car and walked home.

It took me about 80 hours I think but I've been driving for 20 years and never took a parent out until after I passed my test.

WorkingLateAgain · 09/03/2024 19:48

I’d be looking more at getting her assessed for dyspraxia. Does she get very anxious/overwhelmed with other things? Any other difficulties? If so possible autism and other things like that which can go hand in hand with dyspraxia.

If she’s completely overwhelmed with it, don’t push her. Being able to drive is very useful but not essential and some people just can’t do it.