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Won't marry or commit financially

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Charlotte778 · 28/02/2024 13:49

My partner and I have been together almost 10 years. We have a child together and I have an older child from a previous relationship.
I moved into his home after a year of dating.
Hes a good man and a good father, but doesn't accept my older child as his own.
The main issue is him denying marrying me.
When I get down to the nitty gritty, it's purely financial. He doesn't want to share or lose the home he has bought and paid off. He makes silly excuses like he doesn't want a party with a load of my family he barely knows etc. He shouts that women get everything in a divorce!!!
I've offered to sign a contract, a pre nup or whatever, but he gets angry and defensive about it. I want to marry for love and our future...
So nowI have no husband and zero financial security and he holds all the cards. This attitude has caused me so much unhappiness and it's changed how I feel about him.
I don't want his house, I want the father of my child to want me to feel loved and secure.
I work hard and earn a decent income. I buy everything for the kids and contribute to household maintenence.
Have I wasted 10 years auditioning for a role he was never going to give me?
Should I move on with my life as marriage is something I've always wanted and now I'm in my late forties....
I feel he's busy feathering his own nest and lost sight of what is actually important....
AIBU? Should I just be grateful for my family?

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Lazypeopledrivemecrazy · 28/02/2024 23:48

I haven't read the full thread OP, but I simply could NOT stay with a man who favours one child over another, regardless of whether only one of them is his. He isn't a good man and he's certainly NOT a good father! He's CRUEL, and SELFISH! Dump him and make a home for the 3 of you, and I hope he's lonely as hell in the home that he wants so badly to keep for himself. HATE men like this!

Forgottenmypasswordagain · 28/02/2024 23:36

I would get my own place and leave in your situation.

Tryingmybestadhd · 28/02/2024 23:17

You won’t like this but the reason why he won’t marry you is because he doesn’t love you the same way you love him , he is Poe ably for the little you say also a narcissist who is not able to love anything that doesn’t seem to be controlled or a possession to him , which is why your son is never accepted .
Im about to get married on my 40s , life is not over once your 30s are over . You deserve so much better

HenndigoOZ · 28/02/2024 22:59

You aren’t being unreasonable OP. I live in Australia and after two years of living together (or sooner if they have a child) all the assets held by both partners go into the asset pool in the case of a financial separation. This is regardless of whether or not it’s in one person’s name only or if it’s a business run by one partner. They have the same financial settlement as married couples.

After reading some of the shocking threads on here I think marriage is essential in the UK if you have a child or income / equity of your own that you would like to jointly share with your partner in a protected way.

I am really surprised so many people live together long term considering the lack of financial protection. I am assuming that people are just unaware or perhaps they believe a split will never happen to them?

Aprilrosesews · 28/02/2024 22:52

Charlotte778 · 28/02/2024 20:41

Thankyou all for your advice...
Just to clarify, my eldest is not suffering in any way because they are a fantastic, well rounded adult now in a full time job! They were almost a teenager when I met my fiance (yes we had planned and booked a wedding that got cancelled due to covid... Then never rearranged) My eldest is my absolute no 1 priority and has always has been! It's a different dynamic when you have a baby and a stroppy teenager, there will always be differences in how they are treated because of the sheer age gap. He might have not accepted the 'stroppy teenager' as his own flesh and blood, and I'm not sure I blame him given the way they speak to him sometimes!!! But he has been very good to them over the years!! And my eldest is actually his biggest cheerleader! I resent the fact I'm being called an unfit parent. This is NOT an abusive relationship in any way, and my children are both loved.
We have a very comfortable life, and I'm not naive... We do own a small BTL together to help with our pensions....
The only issue I genuinely had, is that I wanted to own a home together, and be married like our parents who have clocked up 100 years between them!!
I'm an old romantic, that's all.

This changes my opinion completely. Your FIANCÉ?! As in he asked you to marry him?! It not like you’re with someone who was never keen on marriage that you’re asking to change their opinion. This bloke ACTUALLY ASKED YOU TO MARRY HIM. I get people can chance their opinion but the complete lack of communication from him is ridiculous. You need to drive that point home to him, he actually made a promise to marry you and now he’s negated on that. Why did he even ask you if he didn’t want to?

Also the fact you own a BTL together I think changes the house problem. You do own a house together. I understand him not wanting to have to share financially the house that he worked hard for so isn’t sharing a BTL a compromise? However you need to be putting what you put into his house into a BTL of your own. No helping him pay for any improvements etc if it his asset until you have enough to buy your own home.

And why on earth do you pay for everything for the children?! Why is he not paying his share of his own child…..more money you can put towards a property of your own.

Happinessisnowhere · 28/02/2024 22:50

Charlotte778 · 28/02/2024 14:50

My older childs father died before birth. I acknowledge it's hard to accept a 10 year old step child, but they are no trouble!
Hes not mean or anything, just massively favours his own child over most things.... It causes hurt to my older child.
I've been in self preservation mode a while so I do have some savings of my own x

I'm sorry, but this in itself should be reason to LTB. I feel for you older child, can you imagine what that is doing to their self esteem? Their step father massively favours their sibling and they feel hurt by this. Please wake up.

Newgirls · 28/02/2024 22:44

I think people assumed your son was 8 or something and got completely carried away. Sorry it went like that op. Some of us (perhaps with older kids) saw it differently. Sounds like you have a good handle on it all.

Charlotte778 · 28/02/2024 22:41

Northernparent68 · 28/02/2024 22:37

You’re changing the goal posts, you knew he didn’t want to marry but had a child with him. It’s reasonable for him to protect his assets, and you’ve bought a house together to supplement your pension.

im not sure why everyone is telling you to leave him, he hasn’t done anything wrong

You must have missed the part where I said we had booked a wedding and covid cancelled it. He proposed 6 years ago.... Marriage was always the plan!

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Northernparent68 · 28/02/2024 22:37

You’re changing the goal posts, you knew he didn’t want to marry but had a child with him. It’s reasonable for him to protect his assets, and you’ve bought a house together to supplement your pension.

im not sure why everyone is telling you to leave him, he hasn’t done anything wrong

OrdinaryGirl · 28/02/2024 22:36

You need to hear this OP: a guy who loves you would not behave like this. Time to take a long hard look at your relationship and decide if this really is all you feel you are worth 🥺

Taxingtaxhelp · 28/02/2024 22:34

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 28/02/2024 22:33

We're not 'girls'.

I genuinely feel sorry for your children because of how your 'partner' treats them. From what you first posted, you were extremely passive and your priority was getting a ring on your finger.

I don't know why you posted the thread but I hope you got what you needed from it.

Maybe start acting like a grown up then? And stop posting horrible comments too someone over the internet?

Just a thought

Menapausemum1974 · 28/02/2024 22:34

Charlotte778 · 28/02/2024 15:21

Um....this is a bit harsh don't you think?

@Charlotte778 disgusting post

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 28/02/2024 22:33

We're not 'girls'.

I genuinely feel sorry for your children because of how your 'partner' treats them. From what you first posted, you were extremely passive and your priority was getting a ring on your finger.

I don't know why you posted the thread but I hope you got what you needed from it.

Taxingtaxhelp · 28/02/2024 22:32

Charlotte778 · 28/02/2024 22:30

Whilst I appreciate people taking the time to advise on my situation, I'm now left feeling like it was a terrible mistake to ask for help....
Alot of catastrophising, blame and slandering me an unfit, abusive mother!!! Just remember girls, your mean comments are like holding a mirror up to yourselves.
Luckily I'm a strong resilient woman, exactly how I raise my children... but I can see how peoples mental health can be seriously affected by online comments.
Be kind and if you can't help somebody, just please don't hurt them x

I hope your okay OP. Just remember its a bunch of strangers on the internet. They don't know you. And lets be honest, their opinions don't actually matter.

Charlotte778 · 28/02/2024 22:30

Taxingtaxhelp · 28/02/2024 22:17

Wow
I really am in shock at some of the animals women's replies on here, calling the OP a terrible mother just because of a few replies on a forum.

Absoulutely disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourselves. We're supposed to build each other up not tearing each other down. The funny thing is, I bet half of your own lives aren't in order and you definitely wouldn't say that to the OP face!!

I wonder if you tell your children it's wrong to bully, while being a cyber one yourselves.

Whilst I appreciate people taking the time to advise on my situation, I'm now left feeling like it was a terrible mistake to ask for help....
Alot of catastrophising, blame and slandering me an unfit, abusive mother!!! Just remember girls, your mean comments are like holding a mirror up to yourselves.
Luckily I'm a strong resilient woman, exactly how I raise my children... but I can see how peoples mental health can be seriously affected by online comments.
Be kind and if you can't help somebody, just please don't hurt them x

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Taxingtaxhelp · 28/02/2024 22:30

WandaWonder · 28/02/2024 22:26

I own my choices

Well jolly good for you

WandaWonder · 28/02/2024 22:26

Taxingtaxhelp · 28/02/2024 22:17

Wow
I really am in shock at some of the animals women's replies on here, calling the OP a terrible mother just because of a few replies on a forum.

Absoulutely disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourselves. We're supposed to build each other up not tearing each other down. The funny thing is, I bet half of your own lives aren't in order and you definitely wouldn't say that to the OP face!!

I wonder if you tell your children it's wrong to bully, while being a cyber one yourselves.

I own my choices

bonzaitree · 28/02/2024 22:24

I think the question you have to ask is would he do this if he was with his absolute ideal 10/10 woman?

If the answer is no, then you aren’t mrs right you’re mrs good enough for the time being. Someone comfortable and easy until the 10/10 comes along.

sorry I know that’s mean to say.

Taxingtaxhelp · 28/02/2024 22:17

Wow
I really am in shock at some of the animals women's replies on here, calling the OP a terrible mother just because of a few replies on a forum.

Absoulutely disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourselves. We're supposed to build each other up not tearing each other down. The funny thing is, I bet half of your own lives aren't in order and you definitely wouldn't say that to the OP face!!

I wonder if you tell your children it's wrong to bully, while being a cyber one yourselves.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 28/02/2024 22:17

He's not going to marry you, OP, I don't know how much clearer he can make it for you. You aren't the one. He will probably find someone he does want to marry and then you'll be gone.

For your youngest child's sake then, make provision for that now and sort your finances/housing plan out now.

westisbest1982 · 28/02/2024 22:16

Time to cut your losses and move on, but I appreciate that may be an upheaval, emotionally and financially. He won't give you what you want, he never will, and quite frankly I would be doing the same as him with regard to protecting my investment.

libbylane · 28/02/2024 22:15

I just read the massive drip feed @Charlotte778 about owning another property together. While I still think a 10 year old (at the time) should come first your financial situation is a bit different to how presented in the first post. You won't be left penniless. I'd think about how much maintenance you want to pay towards the home you live in together...

rainingcatsanddawgs · 28/02/2024 22:13

Springcat · 28/02/2024 16:00

Oh my god
Why would you even want to marry such an abusive man
Your poor poor eldest child
He's been there the whole time your child has been alive ,he is your child's only father he has ever known
Op can you not see how desperately sad and abusive that is ?
I don't think you do , understand the damage this will be doing to your child ,while your on here complaining he won't marry you ...my god woman ..
Your priorities are screwed up

This. Exactly this.

Don't underestimate the damage a deceased father/absent father and emotionally abusive step fathers can do to a child's mind.

I speak from experience

Your older child will likely never heal from this, even after years of therapy. The poor child.

libbylane · 28/02/2024 22:10

Your older child lost a parent and this man massively favours his 'own' child? I'm sorry @Charlotte778 I would never ever accept that for my dc who have lost a parent. Never.

Your partner wants the benefit of a wife without any responsibility towards her financial well-being or stability. I would not accept this for yourself, but mostly for your older dc or even younger one. It's not reasonable for the father of your child to leave you in such a precarious position.

jimmyjammy001 · 28/02/2024 22:10

Unfortunately it sounds like you are both to blame here, he shouldn't of gotten involved with so one who allready has children as it was clearly a deal breaker for him and you shouldn't of had a child with him without first getting married as that was your deal breaker by the sounds of it, pre nups arnt legally binding so that would never work either