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UntilThenAndTen · 27/02/2024 18:50

I share one nursery aged DC with DH who also shares a primary aged child with his ex partner.

I work from home as a self employed accountant but at the time this was agreed I was on maternity leave with DC.

DH shares custody 50:50, one week on one week off.

DSCs mum used to rely on a relative to collect DSC from school on her days as she was working. Unfortunately said relative passed away around a year ago. At the time as there was a lot of stuff going on and it was quite sudden, I agreed I would help by dropping and collecting DSC on mums days, she would drop him off wirh me on the way to work and then in the afternoon id bring him back here and she would collect him on her way home from work about 5:30.

I am now back working and this just isn't working for me anymore. Technically yes I am home and self employed so could work my day around a school run if necessary but I don't feel I should have to anymore. My mother will often help by collecting our DC from nursery so I can work and instead I'm running out morning and afternoon to drop and collect DSS.

I have said this doesn't work anymore and it seems to have caused a bit of a drama with DSS's mum and DH saying I shouldn't have "committed" to this in the first place if I couldn't do it.

School does not have a good or reliable breakfast / after school provision so far as I'm told.

This even in the past has leaked into me ending up with DSS when he's unwell and sent home etc.. and now I'm back working it's just not working for me.

DH suggested I ask my mum to also collect DSS when she collects our DC but I don't feel this is fair. They aren't massively close and I know my mum enjoys the time she gets with DC on these days.

Aibu to push on and insist this stops so I can concentrate on my own job now?

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Calamitousness · 01/03/2024 17:09

No wonder step mothers get a bad name.

Dontcallmescarface · 01/03/2024 16:54

Calamitousness · 01/03/2024 16:24

@drumbeats such a naive simplistic post which doesn’t reflect real life at all. If mum has a job doing shifts in healthcare then there is no flexibility and really no childcare that I ever found that would meet the needs of shift work. It’s not about her not being willing to flex, it’s about needing someone suitable that can care for their child, it’s natural you’d ask the other half of his family. It should be natural for the other half of his family to want to have him and let him be at home after school if possible.

The mother has had a year to sort this out. She could have requested to change her shifts, looked for a different job, asked a friend or other family member. All the things that single dads are expected to do when they work during their contact time.

LiveLaughCryalot · 01/03/2024 16:49

If mum has a job doing shifts in healthcare then there is no flexibility and really no childcare that I ever found that would meet the needs of shift work.
Then mums job isn't suitable and she needs to get a new one. Like I did. I would be mortified asking anyone to do so much childcare for me. Nevermind expecting them TO LEAVE WORK to do so.

UntilThenAndTen · 01/03/2024 16:42

It should be natural for the other half of his family to want to have him and let him be at home after school if possible

Which I did whilst able. Now I am working. Is my work not important?

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GabriellaMontez · 01/03/2024 16:41

Calamitousness · 01/03/2024 16:24

@drumbeats such a naive simplistic post which doesn’t reflect real life at all. If mum has a job doing shifts in healthcare then there is no flexibility and really no childcare that I ever found that would meet the needs of shift work. It’s not about her not being willing to flex, it’s about needing someone suitable that can care for their child, it’s natural you’d ask the other half of his family. It should be natural for the other half of his family to want to have him and let him be at home after school if possible.

It's not possible. The OP is working.

Calamitousness · 01/03/2024 16:24

@drumbeats such a naive simplistic post which doesn’t reflect real life at all. If mum has a job doing shifts in healthcare then there is no flexibility and really no childcare that I ever found that would meet the needs of shift work. It’s not about her not being willing to flex, it’s about needing someone suitable that can care for their child, it’s natural you’d ask the other half of his family. It should be natural for the other half of his family to want to have him and let him be at home after school if possible.

drumbeats · 01/03/2024 16:16

Calamitousness · 01/03/2024 15:21

This is all very sad. I honestly would treat a step child the same as my own and think there are three parents to support and love that child. It’s massively unpopular on mumsnet to say that yet if your husband was to treat a child of yours from another relationship differently then that’s not ok. Right. And sure childcare is an option I’m sure if all three can’t find a way to make it work but it should be with the same commitment to both children.

Parent one (mother) 'I'm not messing around my work to parent my child in my contact days'
Parent two (father) I already mess around my work on my contact days. I'm not doing it on my non contact days'
Stepmother 'why am I the one expected to mess up my work when contact parent won't and non contact parent won't?'

GabriellaMontez · 01/03/2024 15:59

Calamitousness · 01/03/2024 15:21

This is all very sad. I honestly would treat a step child the same as my own and think there are three parents to support and love that child. It’s massively unpopular on mumsnet to say that yet if your husband was to treat a child of yours from another relationship differently then that’s not ok. Right. And sure childcare is an option I’m sure if all three can’t find a way to make it work but it should be with the same commitment to both children.

You think the preferred option is that - op should finish work early to do pick ups during the mum's contact time?

Im puzzled, why don't you feel the childs actual Mother should rearrange her work or arrange childcare?

Dontcallmescarface · 01/03/2024 15:45

Calamitousness · 01/03/2024 15:21

This is all very sad. I honestly would treat a step child the same as my own and think there are three parents to support and love that child. It’s massively unpopular on mumsnet to say that yet if your husband was to treat a child of yours from another relationship differently then that’s not ok. Right. And sure childcare is an option I’m sure if all three can’t find a way to make it work but it should be with the same commitment to both children.

No the child has 2 parents, not 3. The 3rd has no parental responsibility at all (unless granted by a Court).. As for "childcare is an option" well of course it is...one that the SC's mother can seek out for HER child, just as the OP has done for her own child. It's not up to 3 people to make it work only 2....why does the SM always have to be the one to sacrifice her own commitments for a child that is not hers because the ACTUAL parents are too lazy to deal with the issue themselves.

Calamitousness · 01/03/2024 15:21

This is all very sad. I honestly would treat a step child the same as my own and think there are three parents to support and love that child. It’s massively unpopular on mumsnet to say that yet if your husband was to treat a child of yours from another relationship differently then that’s not ok. Right. And sure childcare is an option I’m sure if all three can’t find a way to make it work but it should be with the same commitment to both children.

Caterina99 · 01/03/2024 14:04

YANBU. I would not want to have to stop my work at 2.30/3pm every other week and pick up SC from school while my own DC is at nursery! Apart from emergencies. Why should you lose 5-10 hours maybe work time per week or have to work evenings to make it up? Very different if they’re at the same school together and you’re picking up your own child or you’re not working at that point.

A better solution (if possible) might be that the SC does half the week in after school club or whatever form of childcare and your DH has him the other half week, but every week. You can help out occasionally.

Collaborate · 01/03/2024 13:15

There is a straight forward solution, which is for the mother to organise wraparound childcare from a provider external to the school. This can also apply on holidays when your own child is in nursery. It's what they would have done in the first place had you not been on maternity leave. Now you are no longer on maternity leave you are no longer available. Simple as that.

MsStyles · 01/03/2024 13:04

Sometimes when things change, you need to look at the whole situation again. Maybe if they can’t get childcare (I cannot get it here til 6pm so I’ve had to change my working hours for example), they need to look at changing their arrangement and instead of doing every other week do half a week each every week and work it around working days if she has set shifts and if he can adjust his working hours on other days.
Absolutely might not be feasible but it’s possibly another option THEY need to consider.

Its a ‘them’ problem though, not a ‘you’ problem.

Workawayxx · 01/03/2024 12:53

YANBU. It's absolutely ridiculous of both of them to expect this and has been very kind of you to do it for a year!

I am chuckling to myself imaging the look on my ex's face if I suggested his DP should pick up from school and look after DS on my time with him, when she's meant to be working. He would think I had lost my mind!

drumbeats · 01/03/2024 11:59

DragonFly98 · 29/02/2024 22:34

It's 19 weeks out of a year so yes I would do it. It's your step child not some random child. Does your mum not see them as a grandchild that's quite sad if she doesn't.

Why do you feel that the SM should compromise their work to facilitate the bio mum not having to compromise hers. Its bio mums contact time. She doesn't want to have to sort out how to parent and work during her contact time so she expects SM to just drop work to facilitate things?

Why is the SMs career less important to you?

I really really want to hear from you why you think this?

Dontcallmescarface · 01/03/2024 11:02

Vod · 01/03/2024 10:36

And I really don't get why this is being spun into a measure of the OP's commitment to the SC as part of her family.

Invariably the way on threads when an SM is having the piss taken out of her.

Yep. SM's are expected by many to put their SC 1st even when the child's own parents don't seem to do so. We can't win

Dad and SM can't do school runs on their contact time? MN " It's your contact time so your responsibility to sort out childcare"
Mother can't do school runs on her contact time ? MN - "You should step up and help her out, after all the DC is part of your family"

It's either the parent's job to sort out their own childcare or it's not. SM's aren't there to manage the parent's failures wrt their own child.

RandomMess · 01/03/2024 10:45

I would calculate the gross salary you doing the school runs is costing you in lost working time. I would message both of them stating the facts of "it is costing me £x per day plus the loss of paying additionally into my pension doing the school run. I need to be working and earning that instead on the days I pay for DC to be in nursery it will cost that as well"

I think they will both be surprised at what you are losing out on financially. I bet there won't be any offers from either of them to pay you for it!

Vod · 01/03/2024 10:36

And I really don't get why this is being spun into a measure of the OP's commitment to the SC as part of her family.

Invariably the way on threads when an SM is having the piss taken out of her.

Prydddan · 01/03/2024 10:24

Calamitousness · 01/03/2024 06:52

I do understand your feelings @UntilThenAndTen I work from home and have to be the one that does all childcrelated daily stuff. But I can work myself around it mostly. Sometimes I take meetings in the car etc. but it’s rubbish. Having said that. I do think this is more than making it about ‘their’ responsibility. I would view a step child as mine too. I would want my mum to have a relationship with them and treat them equally with my children. You are building relationships for life. School is such a short time really. I would try and keep doing it. If it’s the actual pick up and drop off that’s impacting you and you don’t want to ask your mum, could you use a taxi service. There are DBSchecked drivers that do school runs. They use the same driver usually and will collect your child and deliver to you.

Meanwhile, in the real world, people who work organise childcare to facility their ability to work. This typically involves either a reciprocal arrangement , or a paid one. The SC's mum has done neither.

And I really don't get why this is being spun into a measure of the OP's commitment to the SC as part of her family.

UntilThenAndTen · 01/03/2024 10:07

And I get what you're saying about it being watered down, especially financially.

But honestly I'd say DH and his ex are far better off financially now than when they were together. Not because they split but simply because they've both taken promotions in their careers since then etc..

At the end of the day, splitting with your child's parent doesn't make that child any less your responsibility does it?

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UntilThenAndTen · 01/03/2024 10:04

I'm a step child myself and have divorced parents.

I guess it depends entirely on each individual set up.

I have a step parent who does as much childcare as my parent does, they are a grandparent in every sense of the word. They weren't a parent to me growing up but we had our own kind of relationship. I already had two parents and didn't need nor want another so we developed just a close friendship almost I'd say. I think they are basically a grandparent in every way to my DC now because they've been around since their birth obviously so it's a lot easier to have just established that relationship and obviously my DC see them as no different to any other grandparent as they've never known them not to be there.

I think it just works differently for everyone!

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deebyhi · 01/03/2024 09:58

@UntilThenAndTen

I don't see divorce as producing two parents at the end.

It all gets watered down.

My parents were financially poorer... they needed two houses, two cars, they both upped their hours to pay for the houses they needed. By contrast my friends who have a traditional family enjoyed holidays and time with their mum at home and as adults were supported in ways that my parents could never support me. Financial decisions were made in the 80s with their kids in mind. My parents just couldn't do that in the same way due to financial implications of divorce.

My parents spent time socialising and ended up dating and meeting other people. Their time with me was diluted. Then this increased when they both had other children. My dad moved away to be with his new wife.

The support you get from traditional 2 parents together situations is vastly different as an adult. My step parents are not as inclined to help with childcare as they do not both have an equal interest in my children. Sorry it's true... my step mum is much more likely to help my step brother out. My dad would be very unlikely to help me out much by himself (that's not abnormal, lots of men of a certain age would not do childcare alone). By contrast my friends with mums and dads together enjoy happy holidays together, and days out.

Honestly it's totally shit... I could go on and on.

And no it's not just me. Lots of my friends are in similar situations.

Vod · 01/03/2024 09:29

Zyq · 01/03/2024 08:57

But equally it's 19 weeks out of a year for his actual parents. Why is it not their responsibility first and foremost?

A surprising number of posters on here appear to think it stops becoming their responsibility first and foremost when there's a SM on the scene.

UntilThenAndTen · 01/03/2024 09:22

pickledandpuzzled · 01/03/2024 09:11

They are expecting your career to take a hit to support their careers. Why is that I wonder?

No one has answered yet!

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UntilThenAndTen · 01/03/2024 09:22

deebyhi · 01/03/2024 09:05

It's the step kid I feel sorry for.

Divorce is mostly always bad for mum and dads finance (both often end up working more, childcare becomes an issue) and it affects family dynamics for the kids.

When you are a team, you make it work between you. But when you divorce we always hear "it's your turn" "I did it last week, you need to sort it".

Add in a new family for each person and it's a disaster.

When your kid is on summer holiday in a few years and you are looking after then the expectation will be you add in the step kid too. And most don't want that... it's not their job, it's not their "real kid", their family feel uncomfy helping as the step kid isn't their blood etc.

It's not your fault op, i just wish people made better choices before they got married and produced children. It's so easy these days to scrap marriage and go set up a new family. People don't want to work at it (I will add a disclaimer here for domestic violence and affairs etc)

As an adult now and my parents divorced when I was 5. It's had a huge impact on my life. The hurt continues and continues. It affects grandchildren now.

I guess I just don't see why some children need 4 parents and many others manage fine with 2 (and their extended families).

I have not been on the scene since DSS's birth, they managed before.

And in terms of summer hols, maybe not so much of a problem if I were off looking after my own child but I won't be. I'll be working and my child will be in nursery. There is no way I'm taking time off and losing income to look after DSS when my own child is not off, it would make no sense whatsoever for me to do that.

My mums relationship with DSS is up to her. They aren't close and that's fine imo. DSS has his own grandparents so he's not missing out.

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