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Teacher giving wrong information

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Questions1ww · 25/02/2024 22:40

I’m just wondering how you all would react and if my reaction is normal. I was helping DS with his homework and he started getting upset with a question’s answer given by a book so I checked lots of sources and it’s correct but he’s adamant his teacher told him something else and even showed me his school book which he told teacher told him and rest of class to copy down. I reassured DS the answer is in fact correct and we spent a considerable amount of time checking different sources etc. I explained teachers are just humans and they get it wrong sometimes after trying to figure out that maybe he mis heard her or maybe misunderstood. He is very quiet and won’t say anything to her and truthfully I won’t be either as I feel it’s something we very quickly cleared up and I do studying with him after school so I can help him clear up any misunderstandings quickly.

I don’t think any good will come out of talking to the school, the teacher seems very lovely and I can’t be 100% sure she did actually mis-teach them or just a misunderstanding. It’s been a few issues I’ve noticed. I work in the field this subject is so maybe I’m noticing it a lot more but it’s very small things in some subjects such as for example one thing she apparently told them that a certain thing insect is a vertebrate but a quick think or even a Google search would tell you it’s not as it doesn’t have a spine so is an invertebrate.

I’m wondering what the rest of you would do? How would you raise it if you were going to? As I said I probably won’t as I’m worried about any fallouts etc. and I can easily go over any misconceptions at home with him. But on other hand I can only do this for one or two subjects as I am not very good with English, maths and computing etc. so can’t really help much with these subjects of which English and maths are obviously more important.

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AllProperTeaIsTheft · 26/02/2024 21:15

Shouting and trying to shut down people’s opinions as stupid won’t work here. You’re not in the classroom now.

I have no need to shout here or in my classroom, actually. I see you are continuing to spout ignorant stereotypes about teachers though. Pointing out that certain opinions are ignorant or incorrect is not 'shutting them down'. Feel free to continue to express those opinions. They say a lot more about you than they do about teachers.

Bringtheweatherwithyou · 26/02/2024 21:00

AllProperTeaIsTheft

Shouting and trying to shut down people’s opinions as stupid won’t work here. You’re not in the classroom now.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 26/02/2024 20:40

I genuinely believe that MN attracts an above average number of teachers who flock to threads in defence of each other, whether warranted or not. It’s a pack mentality.

You can 'genuinely believe' what you like. Personally I only defend teachers on MN whom I think deserve defending. It just so happens that's most of them. Why? Because lots of people (on MN and elsewhere) talk an absolute pile of ignorant, dimwitted bollocks about education, teaching and teachers. For some reason they think they are qualified to do so because they've been to school, or because they have a child who goes to school. It's not 'pack mentality'. It's experience and actual knowledge of the education system.

annahay · 26/02/2024 20:24

@Agapornis thanks! I'm curious too about the original mistake.

Agapornis · 26/02/2024 20:16

annahay · 26/02/2024 20:12

Millipedes are myriapods.

Don't worry you're the second person who knows their taxonomy :) it was an example that could explain why the teacher might think a millipede isn't an insecty arthropod and therefore perhaps is a vertebrate.

I'm still keen to know what insect or arthropods it was, OP!

Bringtheweatherwithyou · 26/02/2024 20:16

Sherrystrull · 26/02/2024 20:00

@Bringtheweatherwithyou

You started it with your random stupid insult. You can hardly be surprised when people stand up for themselves and challenge you.

I genuinely believe that MN attracts an above average number of teachers who flock to threads in defence of each other, whether warranted or not. It’s a pack mentality.

annahay · 26/02/2024 20:14

@Agapornis

Ah! Just seen you did it on purpose. I'll get back in my box.

annahay · 26/02/2024 20:12

Agapornis · 26/02/2024 01:23

Please tell us what insect it was 😁perhaps a millipede? Stick insect?

I once was made to memorise that kiwi fruit was from Australia. Despite the sticker on the kiwi in my lunch box saying New Zealand. Teachers can be wrong and you or your son should bring it up, especially at GSCE level.

Millipedes are myriapods.

Queenconsult · 26/02/2024 20:10

Bringtheweatherwithyou · 26/02/2024 14:39

I’d recommend you return to your classroom.

MN is over run with teachers who are on MN instead of doing what they are being paid to do.

What classroom?

Are you high?

Sherrystrull · 26/02/2024 20:00

@Bringtheweatherwithyou

You started it with your random stupid insult. You can hardly be surprised when people stand up for themselves and challenge you.

Bringtheweatherwithyou · 26/02/2024 19:33

Mumoftwo1312 · 26/02/2024 18:06

I'm on maternity leave. What do you do?

Edit - love that you thought this was a clever gotcha that would make me rethink my idle ways, though.

Edited

Oh do bore off.

LinaLouLa · 26/02/2024 18:26

I'd you're not going to say anything to the teacher, or the school, I personally wouldn't have bothered posting on here either!

DressyTessiTura · 26/02/2024 18:21

PTSDBarbiegirl · 26/02/2024 17:34

You could easily Google further research to find out more. Most people are quite shocked at the state of secondary education.

Here’s the link for anyone else interested.

The article says it’s a Labour Party analysis of this gov.uk information, which is taken from this.

Here are some of the “Headline facts and figures 2022” from that government page. This page mentions that a language is part of the EBacc.

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Mumoftwo1312 · 26/02/2024 18:06

Bringtheweatherwithyou · 26/02/2024 17:26

Mumoftwo1312 So you’re a teacher too eh. Case in point.

I'm on maternity leave. What do you do?

Edit - love that you thought this was a clever gotcha that would make me rethink my idle ways, though.

Bringtheweatherwithyou · 26/02/2024 17:38

PTSDBarbiegirl · 26/02/2024 17:32

Ask the teacher if she intends the task as a research opportunity eg. True or false. Your child may not have copied down word for word or the teacher may have slipped up. It's nice that you're going to approach it gently.

That is how I would approach it too but it would depend on the teacher too tbh.

PTSDBarbiegirl · 26/02/2024 17:34

DressyTessiTura · 26/02/2024 00:17

That is a very interesting table. MFL comes out particularly badly.

Would you give me the source, please?

You could easily Google further research to find out more. Most people are quite shocked at the state of secondary education.

PTSDBarbiegirl · 26/02/2024 17:32

Ask the teacher if she intends the task as a research opportunity eg. True or false. Your child may not have copied down word for word or the teacher may have slipped up. It's nice that you're going to approach it gently.

ItsVeryHyacinthBucket · 26/02/2024 17:32

This drives me insane, my kids primary teachers often misspell words or misuse punctuation, apostrophes, there/their/they’re, your/you’re etc. They also don’t seem to have the first clue about art or music either.

Sherrystrull · 26/02/2024 17:27

@Bringtheweatherwithyou

Have you heard of part time teachers?

Seriously.

Bringtheweatherwithyou · 26/02/2024 17:26

Mumoftwo1312 So you’re a teacher too eh. Case in point.

Mumoftwo1312 · 26/02/2024 17:24

God forbid that a teacher takes even a moment's break during school hours, eh? Even when they're doing a shit. They'd better be doing subject knowledge preparation at the same time.

Bringtheweatherwithyou · 26/02/2024 17:23

Sherrystrull · 26/02/2024 17:02

Mn is overrun with teachers who should be teaching? What ignorant garbage.

It’s true.

Every single thread about school, teachers and pupils, will have teachers flooding it with posts and very often during school hours too.

Mumoftwo1312 · 26/02/2024 17:22

Bringtheweatherwithyou · 26/02/2024 14:39

I’d recommend you return to your classroom.

MN is over run with teachers who are on MN instead of doing what they are being paid to do.

Oh come on.

And what is your deeply important job that you're shirking to be on mumsnet at 2.39pm?

Don't answer that. Because whether you're on a tea break, or you're a sahm and your kids are napping, or you're on mat leave, it doesn't matter. No one, not even teachers (eye roll) need to be Usefully Employed All The Time.

OMGitsnotgood · 26/02/2024 17:10

I had a few things taught to me incorrectly at school which I only realised when studying said subject at university. I even checked it out with school friends who recalled that we had been taught the wrong thing.

That said, even though teachers should have a degree in their subject (secondary state schools anyway), it doesn't mean they have covered everything they need to teach in that subject. And some subjects such as languages, they need every word/case/verb declension to be correct which is a tall order. Personally, I'd have a quiet word with the teacher and cut them a bit of slack.

Sherrystrull · 26/02/2024 17:02

Mn is overrun with teachers who should be teaching? What ignorant garbage.