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Jazzeyfizzle89 · 25/02/2024 09:43

Hi all, hoping to get some advice and find out AIBU when it comes to Grandparents and boundaries/ rules for babysitting.

Over the last year or so had a lot of issues with Nanny and rules/ boundaries. Bottom line is she doesn’t respect them and says they are pedantic. Always referring back to how she thinks it should be done and that time at Nanny’s is fun and I need not worry how she cares for them in this time.

Rules are - bedtime stuck to as closely as possible, if having a later night / going away/ adjusting routine ask first, don’t leave them in someone’s else care without asking/ telling us (this has happened), no drinks for 6YO after tea time as he might bed wet. If we impose screen limits / treat limit due to bad behaviour at home etc (which is rare), this follows there.

I personally don’t feel this is a lot to ask. But always, always one of these rules at least will not be followed or will cause a stressful debate prior/ after them going.

This has come to a head as on this occasion she has trimmed our son’s hair, without asking or telling me. I only found this out via my childminder. My son told her it was as I said that I don’t like his hair, this is not categorically not true and is also not the first time something untrue has been said.

Going back/ forth with her to seek understanding / resolution. She has eventually apologised but the apology is alongside explanations as to why it’s ok i.e it wasn’t a lot if anything taken off, I used proper scissors, my mom did it for mine.

To me then she does not see the point and similar will recur. She flat out denies what my son has said she said, again she always does.

It gets to a point whereby now she is dragging up the rules (with exaggerations) i.e we were once unavailable at bedtime so asked her not to nighttime call but we would message once able to check they’d settled. This has now become they are never allowed to call you when with us, erm not true! And then again if I do call her in this time, I’m imposing on their time.

And somehow I am now unreasonable, she is hurt/ upset, she is hard done by. And I find myself sitting here feeling like maybe I’m the one overreacting?? Am I giving her a hard time?? Then the father in law is angry with us that I’ve upset her 🤦‍♀️

Thanks for your patience if you got this far! Any advice welcome as I’m honestly at the end of my tether here x

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Boomer55 · 25/02/2024 16:53

Stop using them, and pay for childcare that follow the rules you like. 🙄

saraclara · 25/02/2024 16:41

The evidence found no benefit from restricting fluid intake. The consensus of the GDG was that it is important to actively raise the issue of fluid intake with children and young people and families and carers to counter any misconceptions about fluid restriction.

From a meta analysis of various studies into the cause and treatment of nocturnal enuresis.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK62715/

Evidence - Nocturnal Enuresis - NCBI Bookshelf

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/n/nicecg111/ch2/def-item/glossary.gl1-d63/

T1Dmama · 25/02/2024 16:28

I tended to drop my DD off and just tell her to have fun x
Any fallout would be met with ‘grandparents rules are different to mine and at this house bedtime is X’ end of! It wouldn’t be up for discussion and repeated grumbles about it would be met with something being taken away as punishment…. They’d soon except that bedtime changes depending on where you are!
The drinks after a certain time and being left with other people would be the 2 that annoy me the most… and saying things and then denying it….
If it annoys you I’d simply not allow sleep overs there and tell GP why!

Longma · 25/02/2024 16:22

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saraclara · 25/02/2024 15:30

...the drink thing is for your child’s own good

Except it isn't. It flies against all up-to-date medical advice on bed wetting. Grandma is actually in the right here.

I know Mumsnet hates unsolicited advice from grandparents, but sometimes it's worth listening.

RM2013 · 25/02/2024 15:13

I think it’s more findings boundaries that you can all get along with. We were lucky that my parents always respected how we patented our children but equally going to GP house was always fun, they maybe got
to stay up a little later (within reason) and probably had more treats (again within reason) I think it helped that our parenting methods were fairly similar.

SeamsLegit · 25/02/2024 15:09

Maarlia · 25/02/2024 14:46

I have read your update which was a little more reasonable but I do wonder how you will manage and compromise as your children get older…and have their own views on their own needs.

Edited

I am actually very reasonable, I have lots of empathy. I always strive to be fair, I feel very passionate about fair play.

I ask for second opinions, I ask my parents and family for advice (and take it sometimes!), I suppose I was putting myself in OP's shoes and was outraged at the unfairness of it all! And then I came across as slightly unhinged I think 🤣

Thankfully that isn't my situation at all. I swear, I get emotionally invested in some posts!

strugglingnd · 25/02/2024 15:05

SeamsLegit · 25/02/2024 12:22

My kids, my rules.

You don't like it? I don't care.

My priorities are my kids and my home. I will NOT allow anything to sabotage that.

I will NOT place a grandparents feelings over the wellbeing of my children. Basically, they had their chance, it's now MY job to bring up my family the best way I know how. They can disagree with that, it changes nothing - only the amount of unsupervised time THEY get with my kids, and if that is ZERO, then so be it.

Stand your ground.

And remember, you are top dog now. No one gets to undermine you, supercede you, contradict your decisions etc.

The buck stops here. It's MY buck and no, you can't have it!! Lol

😳

stayathomer · 25/02/2024 15:03

The hair or leaving with other people is nuts, and the drink thing is for your child’s own good but I think other than that you have to accept screen time/ junk food, and of course they can’t keep your punishments going!!! They’re not at home so you have to accept they’re there for more of a fun time surely! Hope you all find a happy medium where they listen to you more and you relax more too about it all x

MrsSkylerWhite · 25/02/2024 14:58

Smacking! Auto-correct

MrsSkylerWhite · 25/02/2024 14:58

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Rosindub
Is it news to you that pot noodles are an economic necessity for some families?

Apologies, yes that was a stupid, thoughtless comment.
I hope we can agree about snacking.

Rosindub · 25/02/2024 14:56

MrsSkylerWhite · 25/02/2024 14:19

jamswell · Today 14:13

Your child your rules. I'd never go against anything my daughter wanted in respect to her children”

Never? If she told you to smack them or feed them pot noodles for dinner?

Is it news to you that pot noodles are an economic necessity for some families?

Maarlia · 25/02/2024 14:46

SeamsLegit · 25/02/2024 12:22

My kids, my rules.

You don't like it? I don't care.

My priorities are my kids and my home. I will NOT allow anything to sabotage that.

I will NOT place a grandparents feelings over the wellbeing of my children. Basically, they had their chance, it's now MY job to bring up my family the best way I know how. They can disagree with that, it changes nothing - only the amount of unsupervised time THEY get with my kids, and if that is ZERO, then so be it.

Stand your ground.

And remember, you are top dog now. No one gets to undermine you, supercede you, contradict your decisions etc.

The buck stops here. It's MY buck and no, you can't have it!! Lol

I have read your update which was a little more reasonable but I do wonder how you will manage and compromise as your children get older…and have their own views on their own needs.

LadyMacbethssweetArabianhand · 25/02/2024 14:44

I look after my two grandsons two days a week. I mainly follow dd's wishes. They eat healthily, play outside when possible and wreck my house when playing indoors 😂.
When one comes for a sleepover it's different. Bedtime is a bit later than home and he gets hot chocolate and popcorn after dinner. Dd is well aware of that though. I would never cut either boys hair.
I think you are overreacting a bit. I would not agree to carrying on punishments from home. That's unfair on both grandparents and child. Tablet time is limited anyway. I've given dgs1 a drink at supper time and I get him up for the toilet before I go to bed. I did it with his mum when she was that age. If the bed is wet, I'll wash the bedding. It's no big deal. Your mil and you seem to rub each other up the wrong way.

RosesAndHellebores · 25/02/2024 14:27

My mother used to fill mine with sweets and cake. It was always a joy that they were happy to go and she was happy to have them. Sadly not often because we were so far away.

I'll happily help out my dc from time to time when they have children. However probably less so if my dil were to be as dictatorial as the op. I think it's awful. The GP don't have to ha e the GC and many many couples don't have that privilege.

MrsSkylerWhite · 25/02/2024 14:19

jamswell · Today 14:13

Your child your rules. I'd never go against anything my daughter wanted in respect to her children”

Never? If she told you to smack them or feed them pot noodles for dinner?

jamswell · 25/02/2024 14:13

Your child your rules. I'd never go against anything my daughter wanted in respect to her children

SecondUsername4me · 25/02/2024 14:11

aliceinanwonderland · 25/02/2024 13:19

It did… it’s logical! That’s the reason I don’t have a large cup of anything an hour before bed as otherwise I’d be up at 4 am needing the loo. People don’t become dehydrated ( such an overused word) by not having a long drink before bed! Of course have a few sips to quench thirst.
My children had no urinary issues at all!

@aliceinanwonderland your dcwere dry during the night because the hormone that is required to stop them peeing in their sleep was there at that age. That's all it is. It's hormonal. You cannot night potty train. End of.

I suggest some research on this before you have grandkids of your own and make their parents feel bad for their 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9yo wets the bed.

Nanny0gg · 25/02/2024 14:02

aliceinanwonderland · 25/02/2024 13:19

It did… it’s logical! That’s the reason I don’t have a large cup of anything an hour before bed as otherwise I’d be up at 4 am needing the loo. People don’t become dehydrated ( such an overused word) by not having a long drink before bed! Of course have a few sips to quench thirst.
My children had no urinary issues at all!

Nor do I.

Still up more than once!

But as pertaining to children - was suggested for one of my DGC who was still wetting at 9. Made no difference at all. They just grew out of it in the end

LifeExperience · 25/02/2024 13:56

If I were the grandmother I would stop babysitting. You sound like hard work.

PerhapsaSillyQuestion · 25/02/2024 13:52

How old are the children /child.

How often do they ask to baby sit.

MrsSkylerWhite · 25/02/2024 13:51

BounceHighBaby · Today 13:31
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“That poster is right.
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Looking after our children is a privilege, not a right. If you don’t respect us enough to listen to us then you lose that privilege. No skin off my nose”

You are in a privileged position yourself to be able to hold that opinion.
Many parents now don’t have any choice but to use grandparents for child care. Equally, I’m sure many of those grandparents, who are making their children’s lives much easier, often (on MN anyway) with little gratitude, and who have done their bit bringing up their own families, don’t always view long days with little ones as a privilege, however much they love them.

ThursdayTomorrow · 25/02/2024 13:49

Let her do it her way at her house. Nothing wrong with granny treating them a little - that’s what being a granny is about!

BIossomtoes · 25/02/2024 13:44

I have absolutely no idea what happened when mine stayed with my parents. They did a bloody good job bringing us up and I had no reason to think they wouldn’t do the same with mine. I always took the view that what happened at Granny’s stayed at Granny’s.

Dartwarbler · 25/02/2024 13:40

SeamsLegit · 25/02/2024 13:33

Didn't intend it to be shouty, just emphasised some words with capitals. An underline would also have worked 🤷🏻‍♀️

My kids spend loadssss of time with my (divorced) parents, as my parents accepted very early on that I am in charge. I remember the exact conversation "my baby, my rules... You had Ur go, I turned out great, well done!"

Of course, the flip side is that when I'M (there I go again!) a grandparent I will just have to bite my tongue and let my children/their OH set the rules.

But I hereby swear not to cause constant unpleasantness like OP's MIL. I guess that was my point, it's the parents' job to raise the kids, not the grandparents.

Also, my kids have lots of fun with my parents, and do things they wouldn't be allowed at home - because my parents respect my wishes on the big things, I give them loose reins on the small things.

Totally off topic but I often feel I am neuro divergent, the way I put things seems to rub people up the wrong way. It's never my intention 😭

👍thanks for explanation of the “shouty”…youre points are now much better made 😊