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Would you do this job...?

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howdypartnerrr · 19/02/2024 10:03

I already have a thread going asking if I should be a SAHM.. but the responses went a bit off track so a poster advised me to start another thread with a different angle.

Basically I'm a dental nurse. Tell me - would you do this job, or think it's fair?

I'm in my 30s, I've been qualified over 15 years. I had to do coursework and pass a quite stressful exam to pass.

I have to pay £125 a year out of my own pocket to be registered with the GDC and to be legally allowed to work.

I have to do 50 hours CPD every 5 years, I have to pay £40 a year for a subscription to an online CPD site, I then have to prove I have done this CPD, write down on a record what I learnt from it etc. I have to do a personal development plan every year. This is all in my own time.

I have to start early to get all jobs done that I'm asked.. usually 15-30 minutes I come in early, unpaid.

I have to do the odd on call weekend, of which is I'm called out I get £15 per patient.. if I'm not called, I don't get paid. Meaning a weekend is restricted for no pay.

It's quite a stressful job, everything has to be ready for the dentist, cleaned, notes taken. Spots checks done to make sure your surgery is clean. Lots of tick boxes.

Other nurses are quite hostile to one another.

Some nurses have done extra courses and have extra duties for no more pay.

All this ... for £10.50ph.

Tell me, would you do it? and anyone who is a dental nurse on here, how do you feel at the moment? Do you feel valued? Or have you left the industry and found it's the best thing you've ever done?

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rainingcatsanddawgs · 19/02/2024 11:49

Have you looked at working for private dental companies with more perks?

BUPA I think pay for CPD training and GDC fees. I'm sure there are more employers that do that.

The NHS does band 4 dental nurses, which is more than minimum wage and good pension contributions.

I don't think it's the job, it's the pay and conditions you don't like. If you like the actual job, find another employer that offers more.

Jovacknockowitch · 19/02/2024 11:01

If you are required to work extra unpaid and are only getting min wage for the hours you work, employer is in breach of NMW.

kerstina · 19/02/2024 10:54

DSA qualification is equal to an A’ level.

kerstina · 19/02/2024 10:53

howdypartnerrr · 19/02/2024 10:45

@kerstina would you believe, it's a fully private practise.
I did look into being a hygienist but I didn't have A levels, I have heard you can do an access course though so it's something I might look into.

I thought the DSA qualification used to be the route to being a hygienist. Not sure why it is a now a degree subject.

Sisiwawa · 19/02/2024 10:49

Could do a levels first?

Hankunamatata · 19/02/2024 10:49

Mate did further training to become a dental hygienist. She works privately, pretty much sets her own hours and rates, works between a couple of practises

Didimum · 19/02/2024 10:49

OP, I’m not sure why you feel like you need internet validation to become a SAHM if you want to? You’re painting the job in an extremely negative light, presumably so you’ll get the answers you want to get. I’m sure there are lot of happy dental nurses and unhappy ones – so what?

You’ve been advised that having your own financial independence is a good thing, therefore to consider looking for other work. Again, that’s up to you. I’m not sure why you need multiple threads on this or why you need people on the internet to agree with you.

Sisiwawa · 19/02/2024 10:48

Could you look into training as a Dental Hygenist? I know they get a lot more per hour (3 or 4 times more) you have the relevant experience and maybe you could find an employer to sponsor this/ share the training costs, or as an apprenticeship ( might be worth it in the long run)?

howdypartnerrr · 19/02/2024 10:47

I'm not sure I could train dental nurses (my friend does it) as I'd be too tempted to say to them this is really not worth the effort you're putting in.. run while you can! Haha

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howdypartnerrr · 19/02/2024 10:45

@kerstina would you believe, it's a fully private practise.
I did look into being a hygienist but I didn't have A levels, I have heard you can do an access course though so it's something I might look into.

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howdypartnerrr · 19/02/2024 10:44

That's shocking, I thought paramedics would get more than that.

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kerstina · 19/02/2024 10:43

I presume you are working in a NHS practice as surely a private one can afford to pay you more. Have you thought of working in a dental hospital . I think there is better pay and more opportunity for career progression .Plus it’s very interesting and you meet lots of people. Or you could train as a hygienist? Also would you like to train new dental nurses?
I used to work as a dental nurse when I first left school. In my mid twenties I swapped for nursery nursing equally poorly paid but I found it more rewarding . In my next life I will go for something better paid though !

OneMoreTime23 · 19/02/2024 10:43

ToHellBackAndBeyond · 19/02/2024 10:43

Crap isn't ? Especially when you see how some are treated.

I definitely am not knocking the staff by the way, the amount of work that goes into these jobs is just not fairly or proportionally paid and many are underappreciated because they "chose this job".

Completely agree.

ToHellBackAndBeyond · 19/02/2024 10:43

OneMoreTime23 · 19/02/2024 10:32

For comparison, Ambulance crew earn the same as McDonald’s workers (but without the free meals) . It’s not just dental nurses that are horrendously underpaid.

Crap isn't ? Especially when you see how some are treated.

I definitely am not knocking the staff by the way, the amount of work that goes into these jobs is just not fairly or proportionally paid and many are underappreciated because they "chose this job".

redalex261 · 19/02/2024 10:41

Nope. Put it this way - my 16years and 3 mths old school child has a part time job at the local pizza takeaway. She gets £7.50 per hour. Not in a city. You are seriously underpaid for the level of crap you are dealing with.

Runnerduck34 · 19/02/2024 10:37

I wouldn't.
I'm sorry pay is so shit.
For all the training,professional qualifications and CPD you should get paid a lot more.
I think dental nursing is very badly paid.
Is your dental practice particularly bad though?
No pay for being on call out is particularly bad as it restricts your weekend.
Having g to pay your own professional fees snd do CPD in uourbuwn time is slso outrageous. In fact its all crap.
Would you consider retraining as a nurse?
You'd have a lot of relevant skills although appreciate retraining with young family is hard

BananaPalm · 19/02/2024 10:33

🤦🏻‍♀️

OneMoreTime23 · 19/02/2024 10:32

For comparison, Ambulance crew earn the same as McDonald’s workers (but without the free meals) . It’s not just dental nurses that are horrendously underpaid.

OneMoreTime23 · 19/02/2024 10:31

Just leave. You don’t enjoy it. You can’t currently progress in it. You could quit tomorrow with no consequences and retrain to be anything you like. You don’t need Mumsnet’s approval.

(I’m studying a degree on top of a full time demanding job that needs me to be away from home for half the week. I genuinely don’t understand why you are spending so much time posting on here about it when it is completely in your gift to make a change. It’s infuriating.)

Thisisnotarehearsal · 19/02/2024 10:30

No definitely not for that.

howdypartnerrr · 19/02/2024 10:29

@Marblessolveeverything there isn't many cosmetic dentists local to me, but dental sales is an angle I haven't thought about and is worth looking into! x

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howdypartnerrr · 19/02/2024 10:28

@ToHellBackAndBeyond exactly Sad

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howdypartnerrr · 19/02/2024 10:28

@Complexcass it's horrible isn't it, I've never been so stressed for the sake of 2 days a week!! I'm on the app so can't see my inbox but I'll go onto my laptop and PM you if that's ok! x

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howdypartnerrr · 19/02/2024 10:27

@shepherdsangeldelight we get a subscription to a private health insurance so can claim back for a couple of eye tests, get pay out if we have a hospital stay etc. that's the only benefit x

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howdypartnerrr · 19/02/2024 10:26

@Preeeettyprettygood really Sad I always thought civil service would've been a good wage! I often wonder how people get into it and what it involves x

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