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TheShellBeach · 2024-02-18T14:13:56+00:00

............ should be *me neither, *surely?

Turtlerunner · 19/02/2024 14:04

PeridotSparkle · 19/02/2024 05:34

Let's call the whole thing off.

😂😂 singing along Peridot

HappiestSleeping · 19/02/2024 13:08

ComtesseDeSpair · 19/02/2024 12:05

Pedantry should be played on a level playing field: like the stand-off I (Company Secretary, qualified solicitor) have going on with the Chair of our Board (also a qualified solicitor) where she determinedly “corrects” my placement of semi colons, use of Oxford commas, sentence structure and so on, and I steadfastly continue to either ignore or recorrect her edits and write in my preferred way regardless. Each of us is following grammatical principles which are often agreed to be equally correct, or for which usage can be legitimately argued; each of us is equally educated; neither of us is willing to back down. We are pedants of equal standing.

Mocking people whose literacy is poor because they weren’t fortunate enough to receive a good education or because they have learning difficulties is not pedantry, it’s just unnecessarily unkind, and it’s hardly a mark of pride.

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I didn't read the post on pedants corner as mocking anyone to be honest. At the end of the day, every person who writes anything, is probably doing so believing it is correct. So, in a way, any post on pedants corner is mocking to a degree.

P.S. I have seen some shockers from chairpersons in the past 🤦‍♂️

RabbitsRock · 19/02/2024 12:07

“ Led on the bed” is even worse than laying!
Pack lunch instead of packed lunch
Mash potato instead of mashed

ComtesseDeSpair · 19/02/2024 12:05

HappiestSleeping · 19/02/2024 10:06

I saw that, but didn't connect the dots that it was you. I thought at the time it was unreasonable as that is the whole point of the board. 🤦‍♂️

Can't bloody win anywhere in this life.

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Pedantry should be played on a level playing field: like the stand-off I (Company Secretary, qualified solicitor) have going on with the Chair of our Board (also a qualified solicitor) where she determinedly “corrects” my placement of semi colons, use of Oxford commas, sentence structure and so on, and I steadfastly continue to either ignore or recorrect her edits and write in my preferred way regardless. Each of us is following grammatical principles which are often agreed to be equally correct, or for which usage can be legitimately argued; each of us is equally educated; neither of us is willing to back down. We are pedants of equal standing.

Mocking people whose literacy is poor because they weren’t fortunate enough to receive a good education or because they have learning difficulties is not pedantry, it’s just unnecessarily unkind, and it’s hardly a mark of pride.

Lifeinlists · 19/02/2024 10:13

Sorry @TheShellBeach it's by George Gershwin not Cole Porter. Doh!

Seek out the Peter Skellern version - it's really good!

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TheShellBeach · 19/02/2024 10:12

HappiestSleeping · 19/02/2024 10:06

I saw that, but didn't connect the dots that it was you. I thought at the time it was unreasonable as that is the whole point of the board. 🤦‍♂️

Can't bloody win anywhere in this life.

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🤣🤣🤣

It was a particular poster who got arsey with me, so I abandoned Pedants' Corner for a while

I might return, though.

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Lifeinlists · 19/02/2024 10:08

TheShellBeach · 19/02/2024 09:57

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It's a Cole Porter classic song: Let's Call the Whole Thing Off

It begins ' 'You say eether, I say eyether'...

(NB I've attempted to type that as a pronunciation guide!)

It's really a love song - and very good.

HappiestSleeping · 19/02/2024 10:06

TheShellBeach · 19/02/2024 09:59

I've posted there in the past and someone told me I was too fussy, and that it was unkind to mock people's poor English.

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I saw that, but didn't connect the dots that it was you. I thought at the time it was unreasonable as that is the whole point of the board. 🤦‍♂️

Can't bloody win anywhere in this life.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 19/02/2024 10:03

TheShellBeach · 18/02/2024 14:28

Nor I, surely?

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It would depend on what you were saying but the liklihood is if you are using me in "me neither" "nor me" would be correct.

I is not just a more formal version of me.

KimberleyClark · 19/02/2024 10:00

getitgotitgood · 19/02/2024 06:57

Prone means lying face down!

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Yes, lying face up is supine.

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TheShellBeach · 19/02/2024 09:59

HappiestSleeping · 19/02/2024 05:40

@TheShellBeach you should go and look on the pedants corner board. I love it there.

I'm amazed at the prevalence of "myself and my partner" and similar lately. Aaaarrrggghh.

I've posted there in the past and someone told me I was too fussy, and that it was unkind to mock people's poor English.

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TheShellBeach · 19/02/2024 09:57

PeridotSparkle · 19/02/2024 05:34

Let's call the whole thing off.

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getitgotitgood · 19/02/2024 06:57

GetWhatYouWant · 18/02/2024 14:45

I suppose you could use this if you were for example laying a patio, but I'm assuming you mean when arranging your body in a prone position.

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Prone means lying face down!

Jumpitha · 19/02/2024 05:55

Do you smoke Paul?

garlictwist · 19/02/2024 05:44

TheShellBeach · 18/02/2024 14:16

See also "worse case scenario" - surely that's actually "worst" case scenario?

It could be "worse" case if there were only two options perhaps?

HappiestSleeping · 19/02/2024 05:40

@TheShellBeach you should go and look on the pedants corner board. I love it there.

I'm amazed at the prevalence of "myself and my partner" and similar lately. Aaaarrrggghh.

PeridotSparkle · 19/02/2024 05:34

Let's call the whole thing off.

GetWhatYouWant · 18/02/2024 20:02

merryhouse · 18/02/2024 15:37

well, given that "me neither" is hardly the most standard grammar either I don't think true pedants will care

(and is it neether or naither?)

Oo that'll cause ructions, which is the correct pronunciation? I say neither with the first syllable sounding like eye. Just looked at my Oxford English dictionary and that has both pronunciations so I assume that means both are equally acceptable.

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TheShellBeach · 18/02/2024 15:49

merryhouse · 18/02/2024 15:37

well, given that "me neither" is hardly the most standard grammar either I don't think true pedants will care

(and is it neether or naither?)

Whilst I agree with you, I do feel that using "neither" in these particular circumstances is better English than "either".

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merryhouse · 18/02/2024 15:37

well, given that "me neither" is hardly the most standard grammar either I don't think true pedants will care

(and is it neether or naither?)

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TheShellBeach · 18/02/2024 14:56

GetWhatYouWant · 18/02/2024 14:45

I suppose you could use this if you were for example laying a patio, but I'm assuming you mean when arranging your body in a prone position.

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Yes. I mean when getting oneself into bed.

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GetWhatYouWant · 18/02/2024 14:45

TheShellBeach · 18/02/2024 14:37

See also "laying down" when you mean "lying down".

I suppose you could use this if you were for example laying a patio, but I'm assuming you mean when arranging your body in a prone position.

GetWhatYouWant · 18/02/2024 14:42

TheShellBeach · 18/02/2024 14:37

See also "laying down" when you mean "lying down".

Yes indeed.

GetWhatYouWant · 18/02/2024 14:41

You're absolutely right. Of course it's me neither. Of course it's worst case scenario, the phrase requires the use of the superlative when referring to the 'most bad' thing that can happen. These phrases use basic grammar and it shocks me how many people get them wrong.

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TheShellBeach · 18/02/2024 14:37

See also "laying down" when you mean "lying down".

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