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Or is it really rude to make your food preferences known if you aren't the host?

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UnlikelySuperstar · 14/02/2024 21:38

Allergies, religion and genuine diet requirements such as veganism aside aibu or is it really, really rude to say you don't like or don't eat something if you aren't the host?

We are hosting friends and I have been given a list of things they don't like. I've never done this, there's things I hate bit would eat if it was being served to me and especially if I wasn't paying or contributing. Only one couple has done it but its really annoyed me as we have already got the food in and now I feel like telling them to make sure they have tea before they come ( although I won't do that ), I'd put loads of effort in and a lot of expense and I can't see why grown adults can't keep their preferences to themselves.

Yabu - it's fine to let someone else put loads of effort into hosting and time and money only to then say 'don't like that/won't eat that' like a rude teenager
Yanbu - it's rude

OP posts:
Cordohroys · 15/02/2024 08:14

I am sympathetic to fussy eaters - I was incredibly fussy as a child. I refused to stay in people’s houses because I couldn’t face all the comments about dinner - I was quite happy to go without but that was never acceptable either. Eventually I learned to eat most things - still find fish and seafood challenging - I’ll eat it, I won’t enjoy it but it won’t kill me - I’d hate a guest to feel that way when they join us for food.

NewOrder · 15/02/2024 08:12

Although just recalling a woman I worked with who used to shout 'Anything that's not an allergy is a CHOICE' when it came to dietary requirements at events lol.

justasking111 · 15/02/2024 08:11

I'm intolerant to seafood makes me really ill. Can't have cream either. I would have shut up, filled up on vegetables, bread, and enjoyed the evening with friends.

I do ask guests beforehand if there's anything that they can't eat because of my own issues.

NewOrder · 15/02/2024 08:10

I think it boils down to how it was worded - if I said hey friends, let me know if you have any preferences etc and they said 'All good but I really dont like shellfish or anything too spicy, hope thats ok?' I dont have an issue.

CanOfCharms · 15/02/2024 08:08

I always ask if there is anything friends are ‘unable’ to eat. Covers allergies and dislikes without making anyone feel bad. This goes for friends we have known for 30 years as tastes can change. Some random stuff like beetroot appears on the list which is fine.

I don’t like goats cheese or feta but I would never say this to a host. I would just get on and try and eat it or leave a few pieces.

AlizeeEasy · 15/02/2024 08:08

CHEESEY13 · 15/02/2024 05:47

In recent years it's become 'fashionable' for life's dedicated attention-seekers to declare that they "just can't!" eat this or that, sometimes for medical reasons but often not - it's a handy bandwagon for the Look-At-Me brigade to jump on.

They are "Special" and boy, do they want the world to know and acknowledge it!

I would be sorely tempted to snap "well you can sit there until you darn well eat it, Picky!"

My (and others) life long issues with food have absolutely nothing to do with seeking attention. My food issues exist when I am alone, it is far from the first thing anyone learns about me.

you don’t have to go through life judging everyone who is different to you. I wish I didn’t have food issues, so much in life would have been easier.

redskybluewater · 15/02/2024 08:07

Hosting has become increasingly difficult partly because in the Uk we don't have a national, or regional cuisine anymore. Whereas once upon a time, or still nowadays in many if not most other countries you can be pretty sure that the vast majority of people will be able ( allergies aside) to eat the local food, in the Uk this simply isn't possible.

People are honing in on their likes and dislikes because of the vast assortment of food available. You can easily live healthily without touching long lists of foods because there are so many others to choose from. This wasn't the case when dinner parties were most popular.
Now a host who wishes to please rather than just nourish the guests is left with the difficult task of inventing dishes to which exclude all types of food. It's a minefield and I'm not surprised that hosting is going out of fashion.

WitchWithoutChips · 15/02/2024 08:06

I am trying to work out what you could be cooking if almost every dish contains both cream and fish Confused

Goatymum · 15/02/2024 07:58

I’d check beforehand. I now (sadly) have v specific requirements (which I mention straight off) and some friends have been amazingly accommodating, but I prefer to have people round these days.

Cordohroys · 15/02/2024 07:55

Frasers · 15/02/2024 07:12

Some folks really are clueless at hosting. If someone isn’t eating, there can be multiple reasons, from feeling unwell to simply the food is bad, or it’s something they dislike. It isn’t rudeness as the majority reason. Asking discreetly so as not to embarrass them, if you can get them something else is the way forward.

really stunned at the folks who think inviting people for dinner they should just eat it no matter what.

You misunderstand- I always ask beforehand and cater for any fussy eaters or allergy suffers - to not tell me you don’t eat a certain food and then spend the whole time moving it around your plate is not better manners than telling me in the first place. Yes I’d have to say something - offer them something else because it would be obvious they weren’t happy - but privately I’d be annoyed they hadn’t been honest in the first place. Nothing wrong with being a fussy eater - I know a few, mostly younger relatives, I cater without judgement or we go to a restaurant/order in.

Bargello · 15/02/2024 07:51

I think a lot depends on the level of the pickiness. It's one thing to say no spicy food or no seafood. Quite another to say no tomatoes, no salad, no sauces, no rice, no garlic, no onions etc etc etc.

ThanksItHasPockets · 15/02/2024 07:51

They were probably waiting for you to ask and eventually realised that you weren’t going to. They were a bit rude but as the host I would have always asked.

TBH what’s worse are the people who flatly lie and claim they (or worse, their child) ‘eat everything’ and then miserably push their food around the plate because actually they don’t eat peppers / rice / eggs etc.

RampantIvy · 15/02/2024 07:48

A selection of dishes containing seafood and cream would be a no for a lot of people. When you said a wide variety that doesn't sound like much of a variety to me.

I am not a fussy eater, and can count the number of things that won't pass my lips on one hand, shellfish being one (dislike) and cream in every dish being another (intolerance).

nighttimeforgenerals88 · 15/02/2024 07:47

ButteryBase · 15/02/2024 07:45

Totally agree, this is why I’ve almost entirely stopped having groups of friends over for dinner. “Doesn’t eat mushrooms/eggs/chicken/tomatoes/creamy sauces/meaty sauces” or “can any pudding not have fruit/chocolate/cream”, like I’m a restaurant rather than a capable cook. I have food preferences, but I’m also an adult who’s grateful when someone else cooks for me and will enjoy the care they’re showing me, not use it as another way to prioritise my own likes and call it “boundaries” and “self-care”.

I know I’m a bit old-man-shouting-at-clouds about this topic, but I do feel sad that the normalisation of individual preferences over group enjoyment has spread even into sharing a meal.

Bloody "you do you" culture has spread into our dinner parties, ruining it for the rest of us

AinsleyHayes · 15/02/2024 07:47

They are rude but I would always ask for any special diets, allergies or very strong preferences before going to any effort or expense of buying or preparing food. That’s hosting 101, surely.

ButteryBase · 15/02/2024 07:45

Totally agree, this is why I’ve almost entirely stopped having groups of friends over for dinner. “Doesn’t eat mushrooms/eggs/chicken/tomatoes/creamy sauces/meaty sauces” or “can any pudding not have fruit/chocolate/cream”, like I’m a restaurant rather than a capable cook. I have food preferences, but I’m also an adult who’s grateful when someone else cooks for me and will enjoy the care they’re showing me, not use it as another way to prioritise my own likes and call it “boundaries” and “self-care”.

I know I’m a bit old-man-shouting-at-clouds about this topic, but I do feel sad that the normalisation of individual preferences over group enjoyment has spread even into sharing a meal.

sbhydrogen · 15/02/2024 07:44

Many years ago I didn't like salmon. Cooked or smoked, I thought it was bleurgh. I also didn't like prawns or beetroot.

On one occasion I went to a dinner party and was served salmon. I was unhappy but kept my thoughts to myself and ate the salmon. Another time at lunch I was served prawns and beetroot. Feeling very sad but also polite, I proceeded to eat the prawns and beetroot.

Turned out I loved them all! But the point is I kept my thoughts to myself and ate the food anyway.

NotAgainWilson · 15/02/2024 07:44

I have a few friends like this and honestly, no hard feelings. The way I go around it is not to host them at home again and just meet them at a restaurant where they can choose what to eat.i obviously accommodate for allergies and vegetarians as much as I can.

The only thing I resent is when they start making a loud fuss of what they don’t like and ruining it for the rest of us. My SIL is a master for this, if she doesn’t like the food she starts getting very vocal about it, picks a fight with the staff and makes sure you are aware she cannot possibly comprehend how you are eating that if you were unlucky to choose the same.

Thepeopleversuswork · 15/02/2024 07:42

I do think there’s a very big difference between absolute dealbreaker foods and just stuff people don’t fancy.

I always ask people if I am catering and would never expect someone who was allergic/vegan/had a religious restriction or had a particularly strong aversion to something to stomach it just for the sake of appearances.

I can’t bear any kind of offal (including liver and kidney), physically can’t get it down, so I am always upfront about that. I’m not wild about pork belly or rhubarb but if I was presented with a plate of either at someone’s house I would be able to get through them so I would keep this to myself.

But I think a very picky list of “likes” sent at short notice is a bit entitled. No one has a right to eat their ideal food at any given moment.

Ilovelurchers · 15/02/2024 07:40

To be honest OP, though at first I thought you should hàce checked in advance, when I realised it was more of a mezze, sharing style meal (almost a buffet as I am imagining it) with approx tent dishes, I think it is ok not to check. When I used to host stuff, if I was doing starter/main/dessert I would of course check for preferences, but when I was doing more or a buffet for a larger number I never did because otherwise you could tie yourself up in knots. I just made sure there was some meat, some seafood, some veggie, and some vegan, and that at least some options were gluten free, and went from there ....

If there are a range of dishes I think it is rude of this couple to inform you the husband can't eat some of them, as why does it matter? Unless there wasn't anything at all he could eat? (And out of 19 dishes that sounds really unlikely). It's as if he expects the entire meal to revolve around his preferences.....

Not worth falling out with them over tho OP, as they are otherwise nice people you say. Maybe they were just having a bad day, or expressed themselves badly, or something ......

I wouldn't adapt your plans too much. As long as there are one or two things he can eat, I would just crack on! Provide extra bread, or whatever the carbs are, if need be.....

nighttimeforgenerals88 · 15/02/2024 07:40

Kemblefordsnice · 14/02/2024 21:55

I can't stand picky eaters.

You arrive, you eat or you don't.

I'm happy to serve coeliacs, IBS, allergy sufferers , vegans, gluten free, or anyone else who might be made ill but faddy eaters can fuck right off.

Hear, hear!

Zanatdy · 15/02/2024 07:37

Rude if not asked. I don’t eat lamb and if anyone ever cooks me dinner they do ask if any dislikes and I say I don’t eat lamb, but I’d never give a list of preference without being asked. Just say you’ve already bought the food so they can eat around what they don’t like

Mrsjayy · 15/02/2024 07:35

JanglingJack · 14/02/2024 22:47

I don't like these things either, but I'd happily say serve extra all round, I'll dip my bread in partner's sauce.

Not that I have a partner
Or any friends
🤣

As long as it wasn't deemed rude. I'd be happy to crack on with the bits I could eat.

YANBU @UnlikelySuperstar . Unless dietary requirements (not talking diets) then serve what you have prepared. They're more than welcome to everything else on the plate or the salad bowl.

Can I come? I don't like mussels or octopus though. Or Squid. Or snails. I'm good with prawns. I could force a parsnip down or try some and politely decline the rest without you feeling bad.

oh don't be silly dipping bread In sauce is worse than not eating the food!

badwolf82 · 15/02/2024 07:35

You are being rude and unreasonable. Any time I host people I ask ahead of time if they have any allergies or food preferences. I don’t want to serve my guests food that they hate.

Some people also have sensory issues and can’t bear certain foods because of texture or strong flavours.

Yes, it’s annoying when you have to cater to a lot of different preferences, but you chose to host. Next time suggest a restaurant where everyone can pick what they like and pay for themselves.

In short, you should have asked, not waited for your guests to volunteer the information.

AgentProvocateur · 15/02/2024 07:34

Allergies and religious requirements aside, I think it’s incredibly rude to dictate to the host your food requirements. I’d rather fussy guests refused the invitation for dinner and joined us later in the evening. Nothing kills a vibe more than people who don’t enjoy a meal.