Massive Cruise ship holidays

So I take it you just stay at home in case you environmentally impact things. I can tell you don’t live in Costa Rica. Did you not read what I out about how they treat their country? I think you are just a Debbie downer, goodbye, please don’t reply as I will not be reading it.

A zip wire is built as something fun to attract people. People are the problem not “two metal erections and a wire”.
Cleanest and happiest now. A few more years of tourism and it will be the same as many other once unspoilt places.

That's how I feel. I hate the ones that look like floating apartment blocks.

I prefer the smaller lines, that only hold 700 ish ppl.

I hate the big ones they are like Benidorm on sea.

To be fair, an environmentally conscious oversea holiday is an oxymoron. Nobody who holidays abroad is going to win any climate prizes. It is just a question of degree how badly you are tarred by the same brush.

And a cruise is environmentally friendly is it ? I just said what I prefer obviously everyone’s different. I just like to go to places to do and see things. Costa Rica is very environmentally aware look it up and how is zip lining bad two metal erections and a wire. It’s known as the cleanest happiest place to be. It is currently 98% deforestation free. So please get knowledge before speaking. Bye.

"The 218 cruise ships operating in Europe last year emitted more than four times more sulphur oxides than all the continent’s cars combined, according to the NGO Transport & Environment (T&E). Sulphur dioxide causes respiratory and cardiovascular problems and its pollution is a key component of acid rain."

https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2023/oct/19/europe-ports-bear-brunt-of-cruise-ship-pollution

We coated the price of a cruise versus travel to our local airport, flights to a European city, transfers, hotel, meals, cost of visits to attractions, drinks/coffee etc - cruise way cheaper.

RCL sustainability

They are doing a lot more than many cargo companies that transport our food, foods etc... to us of which many items are non essentials.

I agree completely. I was clarifying in response to the post that cruise l ships were disposing of all rubbish into the sea. You’re totally right in this comment though.

To little to late is all I can say.

And it's not just cruise liners ... humanity has a lot to answer for!

https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/0ad44bc2a6634403a98c4d546ae07ce6

Amazing. You mean they changed the law before @Nanaof1 had a chance to bring it to worldwide attention? How incredibly pro-active!

This happens, but rarely now, as it breaches various international laws. One cruise line (I think it was Royal Caribbean, but couldn’t swear to it) was fined millions in 2016 when it was discovered they had done that. It’s just not worth the risk to cruise lines now as they lose a huge chunk of profit and bad publicity which will result in some travellers boycotting them.

I would like to see some links too.

We had incinerators onboard plus an entire section dedicated to 'garbage' and recycling. It is against maritime law to dump rubbish in the sea. In fact you would be fired if you were caught purposely throwing something overboard.

That said, I was just lowly crew. One rule for us and another for them.
https://foe.org/blog/can-cruise-ships-dump-garbage-in-the-ocean/#:~:text=U.S.%20law%20requires%20cruise%20ships,every%20year%20by%20cruise%20lines.

It has happened but its illegal

https://www.businessinsider.com/inside-the-worlds-largest-cruise-ships-high-tech-recycling-system-2023-1?r=US&IR=T

It’s not rocket science because it’s not true either

This sounds awful - can you post some links? I’ve googled but not much is coming up

I am talking about the tons upon tons of waste the cruise ships dump into the ocean. Plastic bottles, plates, silverware, glasses, garbage bags, junk and crap dumped a few miles from the ports they are "delighting" with their stops.
I'm not going to argue with you. Look it up. It's not rocket science.

I saw one of those massive ones leave Port Glasgow in the summer... I remember back in the day when they used to build oil rigs in Clydebank and tow them down the river, and honestly this thing was bigger than a fully assembled oil rig. They are so big.

Is the environmental impact to do with the fact that they have to use diesel, or is there something else? I do wonder what the impact is per passenger. That's a whole lot of people on there, so maybe per passenger it's not actually that bad. I've always avoided them but we had to get the overnight ferry over from Amsterdam to Newcastle last year and we all actually really enjoyed it! We saw dolphins, and they had a wee cinema, and we had dinner - obv it's not the same as a cruise but it made me think, my kids might actually quite enjoy tailor made activities rather than the sort of worthy, what shall we do today type hiking and sightseeing holidays we've been taking them on for the last few years.

Is that environmentally sound though? Zip wires sound very touristy and you will impacting what should be an unspoilt rainforest environment.
What if everyone decided to do trekking in Costa Rica like you. You would have the same issue that people mention with Croatia and Venice.
Everyone wants a holiday. Being on the water is as nice as anything else.

Godyes - the idea of those compounds in places like the Dominican Republic and Cancun seems much worse to me than being on a cruise ship. And those places don’t benefit the local area at all. I’ve never been in one though so obviously cannot know for sure.

Absolutely, or going to Jamaica etc and never leaving the locked hotel complex!

Absolutely. I’ve just come back from Costa Rica, volcano climbing, rainforests, zip lining, sloths, monkeys, agouti’s. Thats my holidays. Oh I did a couple of days by a pool though, needed a rest.

I love them.

we did our first 2 years ago, with 2 young dc. Then last year I took my elderly father on one. This year we have one booked and next year too.

It worked so well for us. Getting to see different places without flying, trains etc. so much for kids to enjoy. Childcare so we can have a break.

when I booked the first 2 I honestly didn’t think about the environment, it just wasn’t on my radar. I’m more aware now but I won’t cancel them. Hopefully they can improve things on the environmental aspect.