XL Bully + visitation

The same ones advertising puppies for £500 a go I expect.
they don’t want to register them because they then have to neuter them…

Cancel all contact until the dog has been got rid of. If your ex does not like that, he can go to court and apply for a contact order (good luck to him explaining the unregistered XL bully at his home address).

What kind of irresponsible dog owner can't afford ninety quid to have it registered? What would he do in the event of an unexpected vet bill? You don't get a dog if you don't have some kind of fighting fund for the unanticipated. He sounds like your stereotypical XL owner and the reason these dogs have been banned.

Also, if you delve into how people have been killed by these dogs, quite a large portion have been people who have been killed while trying to separate fighting dogs.

They are putting themselves at a massive risk of the dogs have already fought. Unless they live in a mansion, they cannot guarantee those dogs won’t get in the same room and fight again.

Its utter madness.

As others have said you need to report the dog. You're protecting your own DD by rightly keeping her away but what if this animal attacks someone else's DC, visiting his home or during a walk. Do the right thing, instead of fretting over the verbal abuse he will give you.

• report dog to police
• inform father you won't be sending her for contact at his house while 3 dogs are in the home and risks continue
• don't bother contacting social services. They aren't police, they don't need to know about this, you are the one who makes the decision to stop sending her

And on another thread, an OP has spoken about her partner having his XL bully PTS in order to put their newborn first after failing to rehome it.

Your daughters father needs to put her before a dog.

It is madness to treat any dog like that. Being shut away will drive it mad.

There is no way my child would go to a house with and XL bully anyway, let alone one who isn’t being properly cared for in a home where there are other large dogs not being properly cared for and who fight.

I would not have allowed my child in that house.

Exactly

Really feeling anxious about this

You’re able to keep your child away from this situation Op, but what about other visitors to this house. The huge risk that these dogs will manage to get out. You really do need to report the owners. I feel so sorry for the animals being kept in such awful conditions .

@Kipdfgy it's not difficult at all. Report the dog to the police today.

First of all I'm a dog lover, and I particularly love large dogs. However, there is no way I would visit a house that had to seperate their dogs due to aggression, never mind send my child there. I 100% would report this dog. Your ex sounds like an idiot - so does his mother for allowing this.

Dog is illegal.
You don't trust him not to take her to the house.
what the fuck op ?
there's no fucking way my kid would be seeing her DF in these circumstances.
Report the dog.
Let him do what he wants.
But NO. NO visits.

An XL bully in a loving home with plenty of stimulation, good training, plenty of exercise and the ability to safely put it somewhere else if it is getting agitated, plus in full compliance of the law, then I'd be leaning towards YABU.

This situation? Absolutely not.

I would report it partly because it is law but also because it sounds like the dog has a really poor quality of life

Report the dog because it's illegal. You may have to go to court to get visitation conditions put in place but personally I think I would prefer that even to the worry that my child would get mauled by an XL.

I love dogs and I'm not one to believe all XL bullies are devil dogs just waiting to turn on you but I do agree this is a very concerning situation with 3 powerful dogs that don't get along in a smallish house and potentially getting upset and frustrated by improper care. That's just when a child who is not a full time member of the household is at risk.

If he hasn't registered the dog in time it does make me question if he has done other sensible things with all the dogs, like getting them proper medical care, putting in the time and energy to train and socialise them, getting expert advice on behaviour if needed. If its not licenced is it getting regular exercise at all or is it hidden indoors.

So yes I think you are right to stop him having dd at the house and if you can't trust him not to take her there stop him having her at all.

Presumably you’ve been happy enough to send her pre licensing so what’s changed? Apart from the exemption certificate all is as it has been. Not defending the dog - I would happily see them all pts.

Report the dog. Pretend to be a neighbour if you're worried about repercussions.

Bloody hell you say no and if he questions it you say see you in court. You don't even have to muzzle these things in the home so the risk is massive.

Big dogs being cooped up in a bedroom, even for a short-ish time, sounds like a recipe for disaster.

So he's keeping a large, powerful dog locked in a room. It'll be bored, frustrated and unhappy. It's almost irrelevant what breed it is, I'd never allow my DD in a house with this situation as it is a ticking time bomb!!
Report him. People like him are why legislation was necessary.

Absolutely no way in hell I'd be letting my DD go anywhere near that house.
In my experience with German Shepherd's, they are wonderful with children, my boy is the best with my DD. But from the sounds of the household, those 2 GSDs are in protection mode, this is potentially why they are fighting the bully. GSDs are incredibly intuitive to other dogs energy's and they quite possibly feel the energy is off with the bully, which wouldn't surprise me at all.

The last thing you want is your dd being involved in the middle of one of those fights, quite honestly if they are having to shut dogs away they clearly have absolutely no control of the situation, or the dogs. And having no control over any dog is dangerous, especially ones with the XL bully nature and the size of GSDs. Plus they are all in heightened states in that environment which means they're probably all on the defence constantly, won't take much to trigger them into fight mode.

KEEP YOUR CHILD AWAY FROM THERE! Trust your instinct.

Well the dog needs to be put down now as there's no way to make a non-registered dog legal since the deadline passed.

Surely you should report the existence of the dog and then it will be taken away and exterminated, solving that issue?

Having said that, I wouldn't want my child going to that house at all given the fecklessness and recklessness of the occupants.

He’s a fu king total dick. Keep your daughter out of that house. Honestly OP. Report him and the dog.

It would be 100% no from me. Stay strong. It’s an accident waiting to happen.