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Useless at looking after my children on my own

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Grapeyexpectations · 01/02/2024 19:59

Husband away on extended work trip. Children aged 4 and 7. Work full time. Only 4 days in of 3 weeks and I'm absolutely shattered.

Our days go like this:
5.40am get up, feed and take out dogs. Shower, pack school and work bags, make breakfast, get children up and dressed, have breakfast.
6.45am leave for school
8.00am work until 4.30pm, break of about 30 minutes at lunchtime
4.30pm pick up children, calm fraught nerves and tears (miss their dad)
5.45pm arrive home. Unpack bags, make dinner, feed and clean cats, have dinner with children, make packed lunches and organise clothes for morning, clean kitchen, take out dogs.
8pm bedtime routine and reading
9pm children bedtime. I fall asleep with them.

Why is this so hard? I'm already short tempered and feel like I'm failing my children.

OP posts:
Grapeyexpectations · 02/02/2024 18:16

Oh and yes I am going to try to get them in bed a bit earlier so thanks for that suggestion :)

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Grapeyexpectations · 02/02/2024 18:15

Okay I've just seen a whole page of messages that I didn't see before.

To clarify a few bits:
-My husband works from home a lot and gives the animals plenty of attention. As previously stated, I don't want to put the dogs in the kennels as they are my security alarm!
-I get up at 5.45. The children get up at 6.25
-it is 2.5 hours journey per day. In fact it's two one-hour car journeys and 2 15-minute walks

  • my children go to the school I work at. It's the closest one to us
-my children are both vegetarian (not my choice) as we live surrounded by farms and they know where the animals go when they leave. When I said 'quicker food' I was thinking of the prepackaged vegetarian junk in supermarkets. I definitely take on board ideas for batch cooking and quick recipes though (thanks for those) and will be working on that this weekend -we can't get an agency cleaner and the one independent cleaner we found quit after a month as the distance made it unfeasible -my husband is not the primary carer. We are 50/50 and yes, my younger child is VERY upset about his absence

And finally, no I'm not planning on changing schools or changing jobs or anything like that. I feel it's a bit of an overreaction to husband being away for a few weeks. I can just imagine him getting home to news that his kids have changed school and his wife has quit her job on a whim!

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Jibo · 02/02/2024 18:14

9.5 hours based on the timeline you've posted and even 9.5 hours' sleep a night is unlikely to be enough for an average 4yo in full-time school plus wraparound. Being tired will not help with whinging/weepiness.

Grapeyexpectations · 02/02/2024 18:01

They get up at 6.25-6.30. It's me who gets up at 5.45.

The younger one does get 10 hours a day after a fashion and that's the lower end of the recommended level. And I do appreciate you offering your advice but I don't think you can tell me how much my child needs to sleep based on how much your child sleeps.

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Naptrappedmummy · 02/02/2024 17:39

Grapeyexpectations · 01/02/2024 21:43

They get around 9 hours 20 at night and the younger one another 30 minutes or so in the car as a general rule. It's not great but it's just about okay.

I’m sorry to sound critical but I don’t think it’s ‘just about okay’.

My 4 year old sleeps anything from 11 to 12.5 hours a night depending on how tired she feels and how long the day has been. Under 10 just isn’t enough, and I really feel for her being woken at 5.45am every day. Sleep is a basic need like food, and not getting enough will affect her behaviour, well-being and education. Whatever is standing in the way of her attending a more local school needs to be changed.

cestlavielife · 02/02/2024 16:52

And get help for drop offs or pick ups

cestlavielife · 02/02/2024 16:50

Grapeyexpectations · 02/02/2024 09:05

I'm really reluctant to use quicker options for meals as we've had an uphill battle getting the children to accept home cooked food (including my eldest putting on weight due to overreliance on processed foods) and I'd hate to take a backwards step on that if I can avoid it at all

Quick is a chicken breast pan fried broccoli snd boiled pots
Ir salmon filkets baked, sweet potatoes peas
20 mins max
Quick is not same as processed

lifeispainauchocolat · 02/02/2024 13:53

lifeispainauchocolat · 02/02/2024 13:51

I suppose you would hire a live in nanny? Not everyone can afford this.

No, I would be looking for a job that didn't mean I had to get my 4yo child up at 5.45 every morning, and that meant they got to bed much earlier than 9 at night.

That amount of sleep and that much time sat in a car everyday is completely unsustainable long term.

^^ Of course, it could be that it's different when dad is around in which case, it's just short term pain, but it's still not ideal for a 4yo and it's no wonder everyone is struggling.

lifeispainauchocolat · 02/02/2024 13:51

I suppose you would hire a live in nanny? Not everyone can afford this.

No, I would be looking for a job that didn't mean I had to get my 4yo child up at 5.45 every morning, and that meant they got to bed much earlier than 9 at night.

That amount of sleep and that much time sat in a car everyday is completely unsustainable long term.

ButterCrackers · 02/02/2024 12:14

lifeispainauchocolat · 02/02/2024 11:05

I don’t see what you can change in your routine. It looks normal to me.

I genuinely don't think there's anything normal about a 4yo spending three hours in the car everyday, getting up at 5.45 for school, and not getting to bed until 9 at night.

I suppose you would hire a live in nanny? Not everyone can afford this.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 02/02/2024 11:49

As a teacher you know the children are not getting enough sleep, so bed one hour earlier and cut the bedtime routine in half.

Plan the whole weeks meals in advance, and batch cook at the weekend and you don't go making a cottage pie then suddenly change dinner on a whim - explain to child that the soup can be made the next day or at the weekend and s/he can have it then.

Get a gate ! that is ridiculous !

Naptrappedmummy · 02/02/2024 11:37

Do the children have this routine even when their dad is around? The early starts, long drive to school and late bedtime?

hellsBells246 · 02/02/2024 11:30

lifeispainauchocolat · 02/02/2024 11:05

I don’t see what you can change in your routine. It looks normal to me.

I genuinely don't think there's anything normal about a 4yo spending three hours in the car everyday, getting up at 5.45 for school, and not getting to bed until 9 at night.

This.

Comedycook · 02/02/2024 11:26

You can make healthy quick food. Grill a chicken breast, stick a jacket potato in the microwave and boil some frozen peas

Jibo · 02/02/2024 11:24

Bit odd that the children are so devastated by Daddy being away for a couple of weeks. Is he usually the primary carer? Is he able to read a bedtime story on Facetime or anything like that? Agree the children need to be in bed earlier. Don't pander too much to wails of "I miss Daddy", kids know what buttons to push and if you are positive and brisk "I miss Daddy too but he'll be back soon", they'll get over it. No need for special dinners made to order - better to stick to normal routines.

And yes, kennel the dogs. Hopefully your DH usually works from home so they aren't normally left cooped up all day and reliant on the neighbour's kindness to walk them?

MortyMort · 02/02/2024 11:20

I don’t think that you are useless at all, but I do think that your set up sounds completely unsustainable for all of you and that your DC need more sleep.

I understand that you can’t leave your place of work - and it is 1.5 hrs away, is that right? There must be other options though, such as paying someone to come in the mornings to provide a couple of hours of childcare and to drop your DC off after they have got up at a more sensible time, and an after school child minder who provides a meal for them before you collect.

Rattles1 · 02/02/2024 11:19

I vary between home cooked meals and easy meals - two toddler kids and we both work full time.

’cooked’ meal , I make for 2 days, that’s 50% less cooking !
for other cooked meals - we make fresh pasta sauce and freeze it , so just cook pasta or whatever to add
i boil and freeze plain lentils - then just have to add spices , and make any rice etc.

We try to do fresh meals too but not from scratch , the above helps. And some evenings are definitely waffles and cheese / beans etc !

Comedycook · 02/02/2024 11:07

Whatever you do cook.. double up the amount. It's not extra effort. Cook once, eat twice

lifeispainauchocolat · 02/02/2024 11:05

I don’t see what you can change in your routine. It looks normal to me.

I genuinely don't think there's anything normal about a 4yo spending three hours in the car everyday, getting up at 5.45 for school, and not getting to bed until 9 at night.

ButterCrackers · 02/02/2024 10:18

Grapeyexpectations · 02/02/2024 09:03

He did do a massive shop beforehand for non-perishables, so we're loaded up with pasta, rice, milk, juice, snacks etc etc. That's certainly been very helpful

Good.
I don’t see what you can change in your routine. It looks normal to me. It’s hard work for sure. The only bonus is that you don’t have a baby/toddler keeping you up at night.

chantelion · 02/02/2024 09:40

This is why I would never, ever, EVER get any pet. I grew up with one and the amount of work has put me off for life. PP suggested putting them in kennels for a few weeks to give yourself a break. It's a small change but would reduce the mental load. That commute is so long, but I guess it can't be helped. How about a cleaner once a week or two weeks? I know batch cooking is a chore but it does help.

Merryoldgoat · 02/02/2024 09:31

lifeispainauchocolat · 02/02/2024 09:10

It seems to be like you don't actually want to change anything that would make your life easier.

You won't (or can't) change your commute, you won't put the dogs in kennels, you won't do freezer food or ready made meals, and you also seem reluctant to put the kids to bed any earlier or get them up any later.

Did you just want a moan (which is perfectly okay) or did you actually want advice?

I was going to say this.

I’m not trying to kick you whilst down OP and I’ve had to make wholesale changes to our lives to make it work as it was killing us.

You can’t make any improvements without significant changes.

That commute is ridiculous. I understand that it’s unavoidable in the short term but you can’t keep that up long term.

underneaththeash · 02/02/2024 09:22

You'll get used to it, things become routine really quickly.

I do think the 4yo might be tearful as they're tired, that's not enough sleep!
My 12 yo goes to bed at the same time in the week and has to be up at 630am. My three would all have been in bed by 7.30pm at that age.

4 year olds need about 11-12 hours sleep.

forrestgreen · 02/02/2024 09:19

I don't know if it's been mentioned but batch cook. Every meal you make, if it can be frozen in any way, make if for 8 and freeze what's left.
Also, spend 5 min in the morning or evening prepping your slow cooker.

lifeispainauchocolat · 02/02/2024 09:10

It seems to be like you don't actually want to change anything that would make your life easier.

You won't (or can't) change your commute, you won't put the dogs in kennels, you won't do freezer food or ready made meals, and you also seem reluctant to put the kids to bed any earlier or get them up any later.

Did you just want a moan (which is perfectly okay) or did you actually want advice?