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Dated for 8 weeks, then I dumped him by text

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lousyatchoosingnames · 23/01/2024 19:33

Hey

So i started dating a guy in late November, he's nice, we go out for 2 dates. One for coffee, second for drinks locally. But I have kids and it's the run up to Christmas and there's a cost of living crisis and quite frankly I'm skint. So I started to invite him to mine for meals and Netflix instead.

I went to his place once, it's barren compared to mine so every time I ask, my place or yours, he always says mine.

So since about the first week in December he has come to mine and I've cooked and meal and supplied the alcohol.

He hasn't cooked for me once or brought alcohol once.

He also hasn't invited me out anywhere or paid for a meal or takeaway.

So after 2 months, I don't have particularly strong feelings growing and he's not making much effort so I've decided it needs to end. Otherwise I'll be seriously out of pocket and growing in resentment.

Part of me thinks I should have started saying after the second or third meal that he should bring some drink or cook sometime. But I'm a people pleaser so I keep my mouth shut and hope he'll figure it out.

If my feelings were growing and it was worth pursuing then I would have had a chat with him. But as it stands, I just want out before it feels toxic.

I was going to invite him over tomorrow night and tell him to his face. But that means spending more money on food and drink and it would be awkward getting him here, me saying my peice and him then having to leave early.

So I just sent a text. I've said if he happy to stay friends but the one sided nature of give and take feels too toxic.

He hasn't texted back, it's been 2 hours now.

Am I being unreasonable?

I don't think it's the best way of ending it, but I didn't

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Dontkillspiders · 25/01/2024 03:03

When you went on the first two dates outside who paid?
If you paid, you showed him you're his mum.
If you went Dutch you showed him you're his friend.
Why would he bring anything to eat with his mum or friend? He isn't trying to court you, he wants to be babied.

Good you ended it and next time a man pays for you for dates

Gettingbysomehow · 25/01/2024 00:45

He sounds like a right sponge. I wouldn't give it another thought.

Delphiniumandlupins · 25/01/2024 00:41

Thanks for your updates. It's obvious you didn't describe him as toxic, just that the relationship had the potential to become toxic. Even better that you were proactive and ended it. Sometimes it takes practice to learn how to keep ourselves healthy

98percent · 24/01/2024 08:48

He can't even buy a bottle of wine or furnish his house because all his money goes on lovely holidays? You have definitely dodged a bullet there!!

lousyatchoosingnames · 24/01/2024 07:59

determinedtomakethiswork · 24/01/2024 07:55

You were dating him on a pay-per-view basis. of course you can cancel the subscription anytime you want.

😂😂😂 love it!

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lousyatchoosingnames · 24/01/2024 07:59

TreesWelliesKnees · 24/01/2024 07:47

Some men seem to think single mothers are desperate for a man, have low self esteem, and have a lower status than a woman with no kids. So apparently we will put up with zero effort and be happy, even grateful, to look after him. Back in the real world, we are fed up with being the one who always does the looking after and we want genuine reciprocity. The only answer is to love and value yourself so highly that it shines through to everyone. That's the real project.

Absolutely!! Couldn't agree more

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determinedtomakethiswork · 24/01/2024 07:55

You were dating him on a pay-per-view basis. of course you can cancel the subscription anytime you want.

GreyCarpet · 24/01/2024 07:52

right, however I have a long history of attracting abusive partners.

You don't attract abusive partners.

Men who are abusive are attracted to a range of women. You just haven't filtered them out when they show you they're a bit of a dick early on.

You've done that this time though. So well done.

I also don't think there's anything wrong with ending an 8 week 'thing' by text. But I wouldn't suggest being fiends with someone after such a short time. Unless maybe I actually really wanted to be friends with them.

TreesWelliesKnees · 24/01/2024 07:47

Some men seem to think single mothers are desperate for a man, have low self esteem, and have a lower status than a woman with no kids. So apparently we will put up with zero effort and be happy, even grateful, to look after him. Back in the real world, we are fed up with being the one who always does the looking after and we want genuine reciprocity. The only answer is to love and value yourself so highly that it shines through to everyone. That's the real project.

lousyatchoosingnames · 24/01/2024 07:44

determinedtomakethiswork · 24/01/2024 07:28

To be honest I think he has absolutely no social skills if he thinks he can come along to a woman's house for a meal and drinks and not bring anything at all. Who does that?

I agree

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lousyatchoosingnames · 24/01/2024 07:44

MayThe4th · 24/01/2024 07:26

This smacks of hae playing to me.

Fine to end the relationship for whatever reason. Personally I probably wouldn’t have done it by text but if it’s the choice between that and having him in your house then understandable.

But now you seem put out that he didn’t text back? Sounds to me like you were hoping he’d ask you to reconsider, maybe commit to doing more etc, otherwise exactly what do you want from him?

You’ve told him he’s toxic. That’s the end of it, you’re unreasonable to expect a response to that. In fact if you’d posted here that a bloke had sent you a text along those lines the response would be to not reply, to block and move on.

Yeah so I've just checked the wording again, I wrote:

Hey, so we’ve been getting to know each other for the last 2 months. I like you and I’m attracted to you but the give and take between us is seriously unbalanced and anything that one sided eventually ends up being toxic. I’ve promised myself that I will not allow myself to get into a relationship where I end up used or abused and so it’s best if we park our connection. Happy to be be friends, take care xxx

And he knows all about my toxic ex's as I went into detail about those. It's something I would always discuss becuase im trying to tell potentials that I will no longer put up with bad behaviour.

My wording might be a bit harsh but the fact is, if you carry the trajectory forward, with me always paying and him always taking - it would have been toxic. I've tried 'changing' mens bad behaviour before and it doesn't work. So leaving when you notice it is the way forward as far as I can see, happy to be corrected. Maybe stronger characters can whip men into shape but I don't think I'm one of them.

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HalloumiGeller · 24/01/2024 07:39

My god I don't blame you, he's taking the living piss! When I met my partner he was absolutely skint (student) but he would still buy food for us to have when I went over to his.

The worst thing is, he clearly knew aswell coz he didn't argue it with you! Well rid.

lousyatchoosingnames · 24/01/2024 07:33

For all saying that calling his behaviour toxic is a bit strong. Yes you're right, however I have a long history of attracting abusive partners.

I've had a violent relationship, coercive control, men that have leached off me way more than this guy, I've had a narcissist, a guy who would never commit and just kept me as a casual girlfriend.

Ultimately I know that I am the main problem becuase I don't really have strong boundaries and my picker is broken.

But over time I'm spotting red flags earlier and ending things quicker to stop myself getting too hurt.

That's why I called it toxic, I e been on the receiving end of a lot of toxic behaviour and if this continued it would have been toxic.

Still learning, but I regularly ask on Mumsnet when I'm in a relationship query Becuase thankfully, many of you lot have good good boundaries and good pickers and can give me pointers to keep me right. So thanks to all who join the discussion and help people like me who are from homes where healthy relationships weren't modelled at all. 🙏

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determinedtomakethiswork · 24/01/2024 07:28

To be honest I think he has absolutely no social skills if he thinks he can come along to a woman's house for a meal and drinks and not bring anything at all. Who does that?

MayThe4th · 24/01/2024 07:27

*game playing. Won’t let me edit.

lousyatchoosingnames · 24/01/2024 07:27

Delphiniumandlupins · 23/01/2024 21:11

He seems a bit mean and lazy. Toxic is a bit strong though. Well done on being assertive and not just drifting on when you weren't happy. Now you just need to practice asking for what you want in relationships.

That's a really good point, I never ask for what I want in relationships. I need to learn that.

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MayThe4th · 24/01/2024 07:26

This smacks of hae playing to me.

Fine to end the relationship for whatever reason. Personally I probably wouldn’t have done it by text but if it’s the choice between that and having him in your house then understandable.

But now you seem put out that he didn’t text back? Sounds to me like you were hoping he’d ask you to reconsider, maybe commit to doing more etc, otherwise exactly what do you want from him?

You’ve told him he’s toxic. That’s the end of it, you’re unreasonable to expect a response to that. In fact if you’d posted here that a bloke had sent you a text along those lines the response would be to not reply, to block and move on.

lousyatchoosingnames · 24/01/2024 07:26

fatphalange · 23/01/2024 20:36

The only mistake is wanting to be friends with him. He's a taker.

I don't see a problem with being his friend. I have friends with all sorts of flaws but you see them a lot less so it's easier to manage their behaviour.

Like if I saw his once every couple of months, I wouldn't mind cooking for him as I would do that for a friend and would be happy to just catch up.

He is a nice guy. I just know I would feel resentment if I made this a long term thing.

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lousyatchoosingnames · 24/01/2024 07:24

Bettysnow · 23/01/2024 20:35

Did he even try to apologise or give any reason as to why he let you pay?
Awful behaviour especially if he's aware he's doing it as in telling you he let his ex pay for food

He now sees he was wrong and has offered to do some diy to make up for it. I think he was mollycoddled when young so he's not as sensitive to it as he should be.

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lousyatchoosingnames · 24/01/2024 07:23

TTCSoManyQuestions88 · 23/01/2024 20:30

OMG NEVER break up with a guy in your own home. I did this once (I was only 21). It took HOURS to get him the fuck out of my house. He cried, he begged, he tried to reason with me, then got angry and started arguing. I couldn't walk away!

Just posting this here so others can learn from what was obviously a mistake lol.

Yeah, this guy was gentle and kind natured so it wasn't a concern for me but you're right, you actually don't know how it might go.

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lousyatchoosingnames · 24/01/2024 07:22

Mrsttcno1 · 23/01/2024 20:28

I think the best advice when dating someone new is exactly that, at least for the first few months DATE them, chat, flirt, go on dates, keep things exciting. Don’t jump too quickly to long term behaviour of nights in the house.

I’ve literally just been giving my friend this advice tonight as she is in a similar situation, keep dating as exactly that- dating! And dating doesn’t have to be £150 on dinner & drinks in a fancy restaurant, it can be as simple and cheap as £10 on 2 for 1 cinema tickets and a bag of popcorn from asda, £7/8 on a couple of coffees, £5 changed in 2p’s to spend an hour in the amusements, even as simple as a free walk round somewhere on a weekend or after work. If it’s the right person then what & where the date is doesn’t matter, what matters is that you’re both taking turns to plan an evening/couple of hours with the other. Don’t fall too quickly into sitting in the house and eating dinner together.

Yes I agree. But sometimes in winter, being warm at home feels nice. And paying for petrol even to get to these places.

I will drag out the dating phase for longer though.

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lousyatchoosingnames · 24/01/2024 07:20

Alwaystired2023 · 23/01/2024 20:26

I wish I had solved this issue for myself before settling with a similar sort of guy so you can do it for both of us 🤣

You really are worth a guy who dates by treating you special !! Doesn't have to cost the earth but you know when someone is making an effort

Totally, I mean even making loads of effort with discussion or finding out what I like and making some plans for the future relating to those things might have been nice.

Lovely walks or even him doing the cooking even though I had bought the food would have shown he was making some effort.

I don't know why so many men feel like they don't have to try anymore.

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Coincidentally · 24/01/2024 07:20

I fell into a situation like that and won’t again-well done for getting out of yours and your text was fine.

lousyatchoosingnames · 24/01/2024 07:17

BubbleBubbleBubbleBubblePop · 23/01/2024 20:20

It's only 8 weeks nothing serious, I think a text is fine.

Thanks, this is what I was hoping to hear, it's so difficult know what's appropriate as I would never usually text to end a relationship. But only 8 weeks and him being a taker has made me take the easiest way out for me.

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lousyatchoosingnames · 24/01/2024 07:15

January24 · 23/01/2024 20:13

Why did he tell you his ex complained about the same thing? He obviously doesn’t care!

I think it's because he was the baby of the family, quite a large family, he was youngest, he had four older sisters. I think he always got looked after so he's ended up thinking that all he needs to do is show up and he's done his bit.

I might be wrong but I do think it's been programmed into him. It's like he doesn't realise he's doing wrong.

We had a few texts back and forward last night and he's devastated that he's come across that way. Although he can see it, and he's offered to help me out with some diy jobs to try to make it right. But he has said, just as friends.

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