Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

NHS parking dilemma

166 replies

Buniadot · 21/01/2024 21:11

Let me preface this that I am grateful to all the NHS workers for their hard work and dedication to their job.

I've wanted to start this thread as I've recently seen numerous debates about this on social media. Oftentimes someone's complaining that NHS workers are parking their cars on residential streets where parking is available at the trust. The post usually has a plethora of comments ranging from those agreeing it's a nuisance to those saying it's reasonable.

I have made a few observations myself, I am aware that they may make me sound like an AH but they seem the most logical to me.

  • if parking is available at the workplace then it should be used (whether free or not)
  • to address expensive parking, almost all workplaces don't offer free parking, doesn't matter what industry. A lot of workers aside from NHS, pay for parking and live.
  • to address antisocial hours, as above, there are other industries that won't necessarily have free parking and have to pay for it
  • the NHS offers good job stability in this day and age (always understaffed so not much chance of losing your job, they need you), fantastic pension, the pay isn't great but also not out of the norm, discounts for on site nurseries etc, overall don't the benefits outweigh the cost of parking?
  • to clarify, I do understand if there's no parking available then absolutely look for an alternative but I find it cheeky to use residential roads when there's ample parking available at some trusts.
  • I can see why people get frustrated with there being no space near their house because of people that work. Now before people say 'buy a house with a drive' it's sometimes not possible, some get house by council and are grateful for what they have, or some that own their house may not be able to afford one with a driveway. It's cheaper to pay for parking at your workplace thank buy a house with a driveway.

So, AITA for thinking that being an NHS worker doesn't exempt you from paying for parking and you should be more considerate to residents in the area?

I hope we can all have a discussion about your views.

OP posts:
New posts on this thread. Refresh page
reflecting2023 · 23/01/2024 08:45

Pussycat22 · 23/01/2024 08:22

reflecting2023, I think you might have a different view if you needed me to get into hospital to perform life saving surgery on you or yours !!!

Hi, I am nhs and we have crap parking - we have to park onevery sliver of spare pavement/ grass/ wasteland and quadruple park abd box people in and get there by at least 8 for a 9 start. Can't find the post yog mean but surely some misunderstanding 😃🙃

reflecting2023 · 23/01/2024 08:41

Pussycat22 · 23/01/2024 08:22

reflecting2023, I think you might have a different view if you needed me to get into hospital to perform life saving surgery on you or yours !!!

Sorry what?

reflecting2023 · 23/01/2024 08:41

MissTrip82 · 23/01/2024 08:31

If it’s legal to park somewhere and someone parks there I can’t see how anyone can complain whether it’s an NHS worker or anyone else.

But I’m thrilled to hear you’ll be joining us in healthcare due to the golden lives we’re living! Welcome!

Indeed welcome to paradise OP!!

MissTrip82 · 23/01/2024 08:31

If it’s legal to park somewhere and someone parks there I can’t see how anyone can complain whether it’s an NHS worker or anyone else.

But I’m thrilled to hear you’ll be joining us in healthcare due to the golden lives we’re living! Welcome!

Pussycat22 · 23/01/2024 08:22

reflecting2023, I think you might have a different view if you needed me to get into hospital to perform life saving surgery on you or yours !!!

bombardelli · 22/01/2024 23:42

All the residential streets near our local hospital are resident parking permit only. Isn’t this the case for many hospitals?

I think this is right, parking should always prioritise residents.

I live near a Tube station and people often park on my street, but I don’t mind as long as my neighbours have space to park.

user1477391263 · 22/01/2024 23:14

AngelsWithSilverWings · 22/01/2024 09:38

You are being unreasonable. Everyone knows that if you live near a hospital , school or train station ( as I do) you will have hospital and school staff , school parents or commuters parking in your road. Everyone is entitled to park wherever it's legal and safe to do so. I have commuters parking outside my house everyday as it's the nearest unrestricted street to the station. I don't give it a second thought.

My DS is at sixth form at a school which is right next to a large hospital. He now drives and parks in residential streets behind his school. He's been aggressively questioned so many times by homeowners who seem to think they own the road. They say to him that it's bad enough with all the hospital staff parking outside their home without school kids doing it too.

He's doing nothing wrong and parks perfectly legally but because he is young and in a school blazer he's an easy target. He has also had notes left on his car a few times telling him to park elsewhere and on one occasion a malicious complaint to the school saying he was speeding down their road (his black box proved otherwise)

As both the school and the hospital were there long before the housing estate was built I believe these people should have thought about the potential parking issues before they bought their houses.

Did he go to the same school before 6th form?

Daisylou24 · 22/01/2024 10:33

Our parking is £4.50 per day and most people do not have permits to park on site. The local roads are for residential parking permits only. Fair enough but this means I park a 20-30 minute walk away from my car.
people have left due to the lack of parking and poor public transport, resulting in staffing levels now at an all time low. Patient care is compromised and waiting lists have grown.

TooMuchPinkyPonkJuice · 22/01/2024 10:23

You asked what my problem was, I guess it's the fact that I go to work and pay for parking instead of being a nuisance to residents to then get home and not be able to park in a reasonable distance because of others who don't extend the courtesy.
And when you can't park outside your door because of these other nuisance, legal road users, where do you park? In a paid for car park and walk home or outside someone else's house? Just curious.

Willmafrockfit · 22/01/2024 09:55

there is a lovely walk near the local primary school however it is impossible to park there nowadays. due to i assume teachers parking.
but i dont start threads about it!

AngelsWithSilverWings · 22/01/2024 09:38

You are being unreasonable. Everyone knows that if you live near a hospital , school or train station ( as I do) you will have hospital and school staff , school parents or commuters parking in your road. Everyone is entitled to park wherever it's legal and safe to do so. I have commuters parking outside my house everyday as it's the nearest unrestricted street to the station. I don't give it a second thought.

My DS is at sixth form at a school which is right next to a large hospital. He now drives and parks in residential streets behind his school. He's been aggressively questioned so many times by homeowners who seem to think they own the road. They say to him that it's bad enough with all the hospital staff parking outside their home without school kids doing it too.

He's doing nothing wrong and parks perfectly legally but because he is young and in a school blazer he's an easy target. He has also had notes left on his car a few times telling him to park elsewhere and on one occasion a malicious complaint to the school saying he was speeding down their road (his black box proved otherwise)

As both the school and the hospital were there long before the housing estate was built I believe these people should have thought about the potential parking issues before they bought their houses.

Pippa12 · 22/01/2024 07:37

Parking is awful at my trust. If I’m not there for 06:45 I cannot get a space on site, they are all full. The spaces are so tight cars are repeatedly damaged.

Myself and colleagues have to park in the residential roads, the residents have taken to damaging our cars (shoving cones underneath them, throwing eggs on the windscreen) which is lovely after a 12/14 hr shift.

We have lost staff over the lack of parking permits. It’s laughable as the residents protested so vigorously about the construction of a multi storey car park planning was refused.

I am only supposed to start at 11:30 on Thursday as I’m owed hours, I’ll likely go in early as the thought of trying to park is giving me anxiety already.

LakieLady · 22/01/2024 06:46

AnnaMagnani · 21/01/2024 21:22

At my current trust, staff go on a waiting list to get a staff permit. It took my colleague 4 years for it to be 'her turn'.

I don't mind paying for parking if there actually is parking. Most of the time, there isn't.

My late DP turned down a (non-medical) job at a hospital because there was a 2-year wait for a parking permit, no nearby on-street parking and getting there by public transport was a complete pain in the arse.

Given the difficulties of retaining staff in the NHS, I think anything that makes the job more attractive is a damn good idea. If that includes free parking, so be it.

sashh · 22/01/2024 06:45

I don't think anyone on an 'on call' rota should have to pay for parking. You are not arriving at a normal time, it could be 2.00am and most NHS staff are women. You should be able to park near the entrance if you are on call.

Staff parking can be a target for thieves, they know you probably won't be back for a while.

A car parked on a road my be because the owner lives there.

In order to progress in the NHS you have to change hospitals at some time so often you have no choice of using public transport.

Destiny123 · 22/01/2024 06:39

MolkosTeenageAngst · 21/01/2024 23:01

If parking is an issue on a street residents should campaign for the council to make it permit only. If that’s not the case then anybody is reasonable to park there for any reason, house prices will reflect the fact the houses don’t include parking. If free residential parking is available within walking distance of course most people aren’t going to pay to park in an expensive private car park. I wouldn’t want to pay parking at work, I’m a teacher and parking in all of my workplaces has always been free. Paying to park at work is also an unfair system where those on low wages end up having to pay a far bigger chunk of their salary to park vs those on high salaries, if you’re a porter or cleaner or canteen worker on little more than minimum wage paying parking fees every day is going to be far more significant than if you’re a top level consultant on a 6 figure salary.

It's tiered. Lower paid pay far less parking. When my last trust implemented it again post covid it was 50p/d for the lower bands and £1.50/d for consultants so they were subsidising it

Destiny123 · 22/01/2024 06:37

As rotational drs we often spend our entire rotation on the permit waiting list, I'd much rather pay for a permit and not add on a 20min walk to a 1.5h commute x2 and a 13h shift!

If only it was that easy (and some trusts charge us £65/m to park so dread to think what seniors pay as ours is the discount rate

RegardingMary · 22/01/2024 06:36

Most hospitals have specific 'visitor' parking. As a member of staff you're not allowed to park there.

The cost of parking for a shift at my local hospital is over £15. It would cost me up to £75 a week to park there, if I was allowed.

I happily pay for a permit, however this does not guarantee me a space in the staff car park. So I have to go find alternative parking. I always park legally and safely. Yet in the past six months I've had my car keyed twice and my tyres slashed once. On one of the times one of the people who live on the street filmed me returning to my car and cry as i waited for someone to pick me up. Then posted it on a Facebook group as a warning to other hospital staff. I'd worked a 13 hour day then was humiliated for doing it.

Nobody is parking in front of your house to piss you off, or to cause shit. They're trying to go to work and do their job. How would you feel if that's how you were treat on your way to work. We're not saying we're heroes, or we deserve to park wherever, we don't even mind paying for parking. It's not about that. It's completely down to lack of space, lack of public transport that arrives on time, and rules in place that stop us parking in visitors parking.

Willmafrockfit · 22/01/2024 06:19

how about when the staff car parks are full
there are charges being brought in on the residential streets now, how about that?
let people park in the residential areas so they can get to work, whoever their employer is

disappearingfish · 22/01/2024 06:15

OP: let's make it more difficult and explain for NHS staff to get to work.

Also OP: why are the NHS waiting lists so long?

MikeRafone · 22/01/2024 05:30

if you don’t want general public parking on your street, apply to council for permit parking & pay to park on your street.

If you want to park near your house without permit parking, get a driveway.

campaign for better public transport so there is less need for private car use with one person using a car with 4/5 seats, 3/4 of which are empty

kisstheblarney · 22/01/2024 03:12

You're one of those residents, the ones that think they own the road as well as their house.

My car is taxed, insured and has an MOT!

I'll park wherever I like if it's legal, but if I knew your attitude was such, I would probably choose outside your house first.

Howtonamechange · 22/01/2024 02:07

Absolutely you are unreasonable. I am nhs staff with the option of paying for parking or parking for free on a side street. Why should I pay for something that is free and is only a short walk away? If there are no restrictions then I am well within my legal rights to park wherever I want.
If the residents want permit holders only, then it is their job to lobby the council.

DonnaBanana · 22/01/2024 02:04

Maybe if they hadn’t got rid of nurses quarters then more staff could live at the hospital during the week and simply walk. Having everyone living many miles away just causes so many journeys.

Georgeandzippyzoo · 22/01/2024 00:59

Snowydaysfaraway · 21/01/2024 21:17

A consultant I know has to park in the patient spaces as theirs is full. Not in an actual space as that's always full. So 6 or 7 days a week he gets a parking fine for using the path or double yellow lines.. Says it's an accepted part of the job now...

Ours has a new multi storey and the top level is for consultant level staff. It is never more than ¼ full. Staff pay for permits but it doesn't guarantee you a space. Nearby streets have permit times so peak times are just for residents.
There are nowhere near enough spaces (but not much they can do about it to be honest). If we have an appointment we go up to 60 mins early because it will take that long to repeatedly drive round hoping to find a space. Regularly we have to drop the patient off for them to go in alone while the other drives out to park further out and walk in.
I get really anxious if I have to drive in myself. A few weeks ago I got a call telling me my ds had been involved in a crash and was at a&e, thankfully I knew he wasn't badly injured but it took me 35mins to get parked once I arrived. Not sure what would happen if it had been a more serious accident!

Starzinsky · 22/01/2024 00:07

Not many hospitals have enough parking, and some can be expensive even at staff rates. Some make staff do park and ride to prioritise on site parking for patients, which can be a challenge when you have nursery pick ups to rush to, easier to park locally. Lack of investment in staff facilities, it is a big problem nationally. Not many residential areas near hospitals have been turned into permit parking.

Swipe left for the next trending thread