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Help with newborn

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blackpanth · 21/01/2024 12:41

Sorry for posting it here. Need to make sure it gets seen. Not sure if my 4 week old has reflux or not. She brings up milk up after some feeds not all. She doesn't always bring wind up but is getting better. After her feed today I don't know if she over fed because she stayed on the boob for ages and had 2 let downs. So had quite a bit of milk. She literally brought it all back up. And kept on bringing it back up. It might not have been the whole feed but certainly looked like it. I've looked at the symptoms of reflux and she doesn't really have any of them apart from bringing milk back up

Any help will be much appreciated.

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blackpanth · 22/01/2024 20:19

MamaBearsss · 22/01/2024 20:19

Sounds normal, not sure why you’d call 111?!

I didn't. Someone suggested it but I know I don't need to call them

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MamaBearsss · 22/01/2024 20:19

Sounds normal, not sure why you’d call 111?!

Maray1967 · 22/01/2024 20:17

blackpanth · 22/01/2024 20:00

She's still letting me know she's hungry

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Yes, I didn’t bf but a friend did who certainly used the dummy as hers was on all the time and bringing up a lot of milk. I don’t understand why some are saying you can’t over feed a bf baby. Surely if they’re sucking, they’re taking in milk??

I’m prepared to be corrected but can someone explain what the baby is doing if they’re sucking all the time - but not overfeeding?

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blackpanth · 22/01/2024 20:06

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 22/01/2024 20:03

My eldest had acid reflux (dairy and soya allergy it turns out). She was the baby from hell. Didn't sleep for an hour together for days at a time and just screamed and screamed and screamed. She had a breath holding attack at 8 weeks because she screamed so much because she was in so much pain, it was really scary. And the vomit was honestly like something from the exorcist. I got properly sprayed from head to toe on several occasions, it just went everywhere. And it properly stank, really nasty acidic smell.

Not trying to compete, just thought having the information for comparison might be helpful. If your baby is not distressed and is gaining wait then it's probably okay. It's just so infuriating when you're trying so hard with the breastfeeding and then it gets wasted. Keeping her upright is a good idea. Do talk to your HV about it. You've got a newborn, you're allowed to worry. They're so small and fragile and so very precious. Congratulations on your baby. It's exhausting but so totally worth it!

Aww I'm so sorry you went through that. Must of been so scary. She's definitely not like that. Oh definitely is infuriating. Thank fully hasn't been so sickly today. Just making sure to keep her upright. I will do. They really are. Thank you so much 😊 oh totally worth it! 💕

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blackpanth · 22/01/2024 20:03

Morwenscapacioussleeves · 22/01/2024 19:50

My second was like this, I used to take him to the kitchen (hard floor) & hold him high on my shoulder & try to bend back slightly as he upchucked to avoid getting covered 😂 works well until the splash gets your trousers...

He's a strapping teen now.

So long as nappies are ok & baby isn't distressed it's just a washing problem. (& crazy as it sounds it's worth spilling a small glass of (cow's!) milk on the floor so you can see how it looks like so much more liquid than it is!)

Personally I would be wary of a dummy prior to 6 weeks to ensure supply is well established (& allow baby to prime you for growth spurts).

Hang in there & keep sniffing the top of baby's head💐

Haha oh dear! 🤣🤣 aw good.
Yeah everything is good. So not too worried. I'm going to see how she goes tonight. Seems more settled and still letting me know when she's hungry.

I love the newborn smell ❤

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ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 22/01/2024 20:03

My eldest had acid reflux (dairy and soya allergy it turns out). She was the baby from hell. Didn't sleep for an hour together for days at a time and just screamed and screamed and screamed. She had a breath holding attack at 8 weeks because she screamed so much because she was in so much pain, it was really scary. And the vomit was honestly like something from the exorcist. I got properly sprayed from head to toe on several occasions, it just went everywhere. And it properly stank, really nasty acidic smell.

Not trying to compete, just thought having the information for comparison might be helpful. If your baby is not distressed and is gaining wait then it's probably okay. It's just so infuriating when you're trying so hard with the breastfeeding and then it gets wasted. Keeping her upright is a good idea. Do talk to your HV about it. You've got a newborn, you're allowed to worry. They're so small and fragile and so very precious. Congratulations on your baby. It's exhausting but so totally worth it!

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blackpanth · 22/01/2024 20:00

BuffaloCauliflower · 22/01/2024 19:41

Dummies can also interfere with normal breastfeeding behaviour and make you miss cues. It’s ok to just feed and feed, most 4 week olds will feed all day if they can. Just get snacks and lean into it.

She's still letting me know she's hungry

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Morwenscapacioussleeves · 22/01/2024 19:50

My second was like this, I used to take him to the kitchen (hard floor) & hold him high on my shoulder & try to bend back slightly as he upchucked to avoid getting covered 😂 works well until the splash gets your trousers...

He's a strapping teen now.

So long as nappies are ok & baby isn't distressed it's just a washing problem. (& crazy as it sounds it's worth spilling a small glass of (cow's!) milk on the floor so you can see how it looks like so much more liquid than it is!)

Personally I would be wary of a dummy prior to 6 weeks to ensure supply is well established (& allow baby to prime you for growth spurts).

Hang in there & keep sniffing the top of baby's head💐

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blackpanth · 22/01/2024 19:46

BuffaloCauliflower · 22/01/2024 19:41

Dummies can also interfere with normal breastfeeding behaviour and make you miss cues. It’s ok to just feed and feed, most 4 week olds will feed all day if they can. Just get snacks and lean into it.

I'm just going to see how she goes with it tonight. She does seem more settled with it.

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BuffaloCauliflower · 22/01/2024 19:41

Dummies can also interfere with normal breastfeeding behaviour and make you miss cues. It’s ok to just feed and feed, most 4 week olds will feed all day if they can. Just get snacks and lean into it.

BuffaloCauliflower · 22/01/2024 19:38

@Maray1967 no, babies breastfed from the breast (not pumped milk in a bottle) cannot overfeed. They regulate themselves just fine, and they need to feed a lot anyway.

BuffaloCauliflower · 22/01/2024 19:37

This just sounds like normal possetting, nothing to worry about. Babies just have very underdeveloped digestive systems. If she’s not in distress, is having plenty of wet and dirty nappies and putting on weight, don’t worry about it. It’s a laundry problem not a medical one. My DS threw up constantly for about 5 months. Just have a lot of muslins around.

Comfort sucking is also totally normal, baby knows what they need and it’s often just being at the breast. You can’t overfeed a breastfed baby, if they’ve had enough they’ll stop. You don’t need a dummy, they’re just replacement boobs.

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blackpanth · 22/01/2024 19:33

Maray1967 · 22/01/2024 19:21

Great to read that she’s taken to the dummy. I was determined never to use one - until the HV persuaded me. Great advice.

Some just suck for comfort and over feed. Definitely the case with bottle fed babies and it sounds like it can happen with ones on the breast as well.

I know same here. The urge to take it off her is insane 😆 but if it stops the overfeeding and settles her then I'm happy!

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Maray1967 · 22/01/2024 19:21

Great to read that she’s taken to the dummy. I was determined never to use one - until the HV persuaded me. Great advice.

Some just suck for comfort and over feed. Definitely the case with bottle fed babies and it sounds like it can happen with ones on the breast as well.

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blackpanth · 22/01/2024 19:18

TempName247 · 22/01/2024 19:17

My first would always cluster feed on an evening for ages then cover me in it, without fail! I can’t remember how long it went on for though, sorry! X

She hasn't been that sicky today thank fully! X

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blackpanth · 22/01/2024 19:17

She's took to a dummy so going to see if it does help, if it does she can keep it!

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TempName247 · 22/01/2024 19:17

My first would always cluster feed on an evening for ages then cover me in it, without fail! I can’t remember how long it went on for though, sorry! X

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blackpanth · 22/01/2024 19:08

Bumping this again 😊

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blackpanth · 22/01/2024 17:04

QuiltedHippo · 22/01/2024 16:04

I always thought loads of milk was coming back up until we had a proper stomach emptying vomit, then I never worried again!

Plenty of wet and dirty nappies, decent weight gain and happy baby wouldn't worry me but always best to check when they're so tiny

Yeah it's probably not as much as it looks. Weight gain is fine and plenty of wet and dirty nappies

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blackpanth · 22/01/2024 17:03

Oldermum84 · 22/01/2024 16:02

Normal in my experience with my two. If no signs of distress I wouldn't worry. It's annoying though - muslins on hand at all times and lots of changes of clothes and laundry! It stops after a few months I seem to remember (though my first then became a constant dribbler so still had constant outfit changes, he lived in bandana bibs (my second is 8 weeks so still to see if I need to bulk buy bibs again!)).

Definitely no signs of distress thank fully. And she's not sicky after every feed. Yes I've had to change her a few times.

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QuiltedHippo · 22/01/2024 16:04

I always thought loads of milk was coming back up until we had a proper stomach emptying vomit, then I never worried again!

Plenty of wet and dirty nappies, decent weight gain and happy baby wouldn't worry me but always best to check when they're so tiny

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blackpanth · 22/01/2024 16:04

GreyhpundGirl · 21/01/2024 13:35

Ring 111.

I don't think I need to ring 111 yet. She's having plenty of wet and dirty nappies. Going to observe for now.

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blackpanth · 22/01/2024 16:03

Alwaystired2023 · 21/01/2024 13:37

Do you think she's fed at all? She's super tiny can you call the midwives or hospital where you gave birth for some advice? Don't panic mama these are the mad weeks but if you are worried best to maybe try and get checked out

She's definitely feeding okay. Putting weight on. Plenty of wet and dirty nappies. I'm going to observe for now. It hasn't happened again and she's not sicky with every feed. Trying not to panic haha. Newborns like to worry us.

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blackpanth · 22/01/2024 16:02

OrangeSlices998 · 21/01/2024 13:40

It can look like babies are vomiting an entire feed, but if you measured out 60/90/120ml you’d see how typically it’s less than we think.

It’s really common for them to feed lots for comfort, soothe pain etc and then they’re topped out and it has to go somewhere! I’d look at feeding in more upright positions, and keep an eye on any other symptoms.

If her weight gain has been as expected and she’s having normal nappies and is otherwise well I’d just write it off as taking on lots of milk. If she continues to vomit, seems sleepy or lethargic, or you have concerns I’d get her seen. However for the moment I’d just observe.

It hasn't happened again. If she brings any up it's only a small amount and not every feed. Her weight gain has been great. She did lose some in the beginning but no issue now. Yeah definitely going to observe atm plenty of wet and dirty nappies etc

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Oldermum84 · 22/01/2024 16:02

Normal in my experience with my two. If no signs of distress I wouldn't worry. It's annoying though - muslins on hand at all times and lots of changes of clothes and laundry! It stops after a few months I seem to remember (though my first then became a constant dribbler so still had constant outfit changes, he lived in bandana bibs (my second is 8 weeks so still to see if I need to bulk buy bibs again!)).

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