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blackpanth · 21/01/2024 12:41

Sorry for posting it here. Need to make sure it gets seen. Not sure if my 4 week old has reflux or not. She brings up milk up after some feeds not all. She doesn't always bring wind up but is getting better. After her feed today I don't know if she over fed because she stayed on the boob for ages and had 2 let downs. So had quite a bit of milk. She literally brought it all back up. And kept on bringing it back up. It might not have been the whole feed but certainly looked like it. I've looked at the symptoms of reflux and she doesn't really have any of them apart from bringing milk back up

Any help will be much appreciated.

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blackpanth · 23/01/2024 22:33

Morwenscapacioussleeves · 23/01/2024 20:26

Hope it's plain sailing from here so you can extra enjoy her!

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Hopefully 😊

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blackpanth · 23/01/2024 19:12

Another day in not being very sicky just thought I'd update 😊

Hope it's plain sailing from here so you can extra enjoy her!

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blackpanth · 23/01/2024 19:12

Another day in not being very sicky just thought I'd update 😊

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blackpanth · 23/01/2024 12:01

Just want to say thank you for all the comments 😊 will observe for now but do think its just posseting. So glad i asked for help as I'd never heard of that before. As my son was never a sicky baby. Didn't even bring up milk. But thank you. Appreciate it. X

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blackpanth · 23/01/2024 11:03

She*

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blackpanth · 23/01/2024 11:03

s4usagefingers · 23/01/2024 04:39

Good you’ve found the dummy works for you, I introduced one around 4 weeks and it really made a huge difference. He only uses it when he’s very tired and needs comfort (4 months old now).

Regarding over feeding a breastfed baby, no you can’t really. But it is fine to take her off when she is satisfied and give her a dummy. She will always let you know when she is hungry again and it might just be sooner than if she’s fed for longer. My son has reflux (FWIW he is a happy baby and doesn’t cry a lot but is very wriggly) and feeds little and often. That way he vomits little and often. Bigger feeds he vomits uncontrollably and struggles with the next feed as he cant stop bringing it up. You will learn what’s best for your baby and make it work for you both.

I'm hoping that's all she'll use it for. But we shall see. She definitely let's me know. Her last feed was around 12.30am could of been 1am. But not far off and didn't tell me was hungry until 6.30am. She's definitely not got reflux. Pretty sure it's just posseting (think that's how you spell it) she's never wriggly and doesn't struggle with any of her feeds. Yep we shall learn together. She's worth it x

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blackpanth · 23/01/2024 10:59

Morwenscapacioussleeves · 22/01/2024 23:43

FWIW My understanding of "you can't over feed a breastfed baby" is that between your breast milk adapting (if say if it's hot so baby needs loads of fluids then BM will have higher water content), baby altering their demand (they can "feed" for ages but consume very little), baby's body absorbing what they want from the BM, then there is no possibility of a breastfed baby gaining unhealthy amounts of weight.

Possetting is normal & may indicate baby took too much or too quickly (neither of which are the same as being over fed) or just had a big burp stuck underneath (this was my firstborn!! The positions we had to put that child into to get her to burp😂) or simply that humans are born with underdeveloped digestive systems!

(It seems to me that OP & PP may have been talking at cross purposes)

She definitely has a good amount. I can hear her gulping it down and she sometimes chokes on it bless her. Yeah she's a bugger to burp but is getting better 🤣.

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s4usagefingers · 23/01/2024 04:39

Good you’ve found the dummy works for you, I introduced one around 4 weeks and it really made a huge difference. He only uses it when he’s very tired and needs comfort (4 months old now).

Regarding over feeding a breastfed baby, no you can’t really. But it is fine to take her off when she is satisfied and give her a dummy. She will always let you know when she is hungry again and it might just be sooner than if she’s fed for longer. My son has reflux (FWIW he is a happy baby and doesn’t cry a lot but is very wriggly) and feeds little and often. That way he vomits little and often. Bigger feeds he vomits uncontrollably and struggles with the next feed as he cant stop bringing it up. You will learn what’s best for your baby and make it work for you both.

Morwenscapacioussleeves · 22/01/2024 23:43

FWIW My understanding of "you can't over feed a breastfed baby" is that between your breast milk adapting (if say if it's hot so baby needs loads of fluids then BM will have higher water content), baby altering their demand (they can "feed" for ages but consume very little), baby's body absorbing what they want from the BM, then there is no possibility of a breastfed baby gaining unhealthy amounts of weight.

Possetting is normal & may indicate baby took too much or too quickly (neither of which are the same as being over fed) or just had a big burp stuck underneath (this was my firstborn!! The positions we had to put that child into to get her to burp😂) or simply that humans are born with underdeveloped digestive systems!

(It seems to me that OP & PP may have been talking at cross purposes)

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blackpanth · 22/01/2024 23:21

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blackpanth · 22/01/2024 23:21

BuffaloCauliflower · 22/01/2024 23:04

The issue with thinking of it as overfeeding is you might then try to restrict how baby is feeding, and breastfed babies should be fed entirely on demand, stopping when they want (within reason, very long feeds can indicate other issues like tie). Milk can come back up after small feeds, and not after big ones. Length of feed won’t necessarily tell you how much they’ve had either.

I always wait for her to finish. She's been checked for tongue tie. Hasn't got one. She sometimes has long feeds. Some can be shorter

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BuffaloCauliflower · 22/01/2024 23:04

The issue with thinking of it as overfeeding is you might then try to restrict how baby is feeding, and breastfed babies should be fed entirely on demand, stopping when they want (within reason, very long feeds can indicate other issues like tie). Milk can come back up after small feeds, and not after big ones. Length of feed won’t necessarily tell you how much they’ve had either.

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blackpanth · 22/01/2024 22:49

BuffaloCauliflower · 22/01/2024 22:20

No they’re not all the same. But you still can’t over feed any breastfed baby from the breast, they know when to stop. (You can overfeed from a bottle) if they want to keep feeding, let them, they’ll stop when they’re done.

I still find it odd even when they bring milk up you wouldn't class it as overfeeding.

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BuffaloCauliflower · 22/01/2024 22:20

No they’re not all the same. But you still can’t over feed any breastfed baby from the breast, they know when to stop. (You can overfeed from a bottle) if they want to keep feeding, let them, they’ll stop when they’re done.

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blackpanth · 22/01/2024 20:56

When it comes to how much milk they need and bring up*

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blackpanth · 22/01/2024 20:55

BuffaloCauliflower · 22/01/2024 20:52

Because our babies are born at least 9-12 months too early and they’re very underdeveloped. It’s not because they’ve had too much, it can happen after small feeds too.

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Fair enough. She hasn't brought up much today thank fully. I imagine tho not all babas are the same tho

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blackpanth · 22/01/2024 20:21

Like why bring some milk up after feed if she hasn't took too much? It's obviously too much for her tummy. It's not sick all the time. Sometimes it's just milk.

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Because our babies are born at least 9-12 months too early and they’re very underdeveloped. It’s not because they’ve had too much, it can happen after small feeds too.

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blackpanth · 22/01/2024 20:48

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 22/01/2024 20:36

That's sweet of you to say, thank you. I did go slightly insane at the time. She's 13 now and that comes with a whole different set of problems 😂

I'm glad your little one is doing better. You do end up second guessing yourself a lot when they're small. There's so much contradictory advice out there.

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Its okay 😊 I don't blame you and that's normal. Haha oh dear 🤣 thank you. Yep you certainly do. She's so worth it x

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blackpanth · 22/01/2024 20:47

Rowen32 · 22/01/2024 20:36

In my own experience it's totally normal, my heart would be broken seeing the milk on the floor but they were grand, it wasn't reflux..

Yeah mine breaks when she brings some back up. I don't think it is reflux tbf. She doesn't have any other symptoms

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Rowen32 · 22/01/2024 20:36

In my own experience it's totally normal, my heart would be broken seeing the milk on the floor but they were grand, it wasn't reflux..

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blackpanth · 22/01/2024 20:06

Aww I'm so sorry you went through that. Must of been so scary. She's definitely not like that. Oh definitely is infuriating. Thank fully hasn't been so sickly today. Just making sure to keep her upright. I will do. They really are. Thank you so much 😊 oh totally worth it! 💕

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That's sweet of you to say, thank you. I did go slightly insane at the time. She's 13 now and that comes with a whole different set of problems 😂

I'm glad your little one is doing better. You do end up second guessing yourself a lot when they're small. There's so much contradictory advice out there.

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blackpanth · 22/01/2024 20:30

MamaBearsss · 22/01/2024 20:22

Honestly this was totally normal for me, some babies are way sickier than others. The wet nappies are a great sign.

Sometimes its just milk. Yeah not too worried as plenty of wet nappies

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MamaBearsss · 22/01/2024 20:22

Honestly this was totally normal for me, some babies are way sickier than others. The wet nappies are a great sign.

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blackpanth · 22/01/2024 20:21

Maray1967 · 22/01/2024 20:17

Yes, I didn’t bf but a friend did who certainly used the dummy as hers was on all the time and bringing up a lot of milk. I don’t understand why some are saying you can’t over feed a bf baby. Surely if they’re sucking, they’re taking in milk??

I’m prepared to be corrected but can someone explain what the baby is doing if they’re sucking all the time - but not overfeeding?

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Like why bring some milk up after feed if she hasn't took too much? It's obviously too much for her tummy. It's not sick all the time. Sometimes it's just milk.

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