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Sunshin80 · 21/01/2024 09:26

Hi all, AIBU to feel upset about this...

Me and partner been together for over 10 years now. 2 children together one is 11 and one is 3. He is asking for a DNA test for the younger one as he has trust issues with anyone he's been with. The main reason that doesn't help with this is the fact the younger one has blonde hair and blue eyes and the older one brown hair brown eyes. Also worth adding he has another child with his ex who also has brown hair and brown eyes. I feel like just because our youngest has broken the mold and come out with more traits on my side he's now questioning it and it's eating him up a little inside. None of us have blue eyes we have brown and green and he has dark hair and I am quite fair. My aunt and uncle both have blue eyes and blonde hair so it's in my side. He also went to see family members and they said to him "who does he look like because he doesn't look like any of us" ( I was fuming at this as I felt it a really uncalled for comment ) my main reason for posting is I just feel really down about the whole thing and it makes me sad for the younger one aswel. He doesn't treat him any different at all and I'm also not bothered about the results as I know full well what they would say 100% no doubt about it. I also have never given him any reason to doubt me i might also add. Just feeling a mixture of emotions really

OP posts:
Reugny · 21/01/2024 12:19

sashh · 21/01/2024 12:16

Can you point me to a reference?

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/made-at-ucl/stories/face-cheddar-man-revealed

LadyGaGasPokerFace · 21/01/2024 12:18

If my dh was unsure of any of our dc and wanted a DNA test I’d be throwing him back in the water with the other fishes.
My eldest looks like dh, but my youngest looks a carbon copy of me.

Reugny · 21/01/2024 12:16

defective · 21/01/2024 11:59

I am a geneticist with a particular interest in evolutionary biology

Then why are you implying the OP has cheated?

sashh · 21/01/2024 12:16

defective · 21/01/2024 12:14

Yes we do know, go back a couple of hundred generations and everyone in the UK and Europe had what we would call black skin, mostly with blue eyes

Can you point me to a reference?

defective · 21/01/2024 12:14

sashh · 21/01/2024 12:11

If you go back far enough everyone has African ancestry, I'm not sure if we know the skin colour of the first human beings, happy to be corrected if we do.

And I'm not stupid, I know these tests are more for amusement. Everyone else I know who has done one has a much more varied set of results.

Yes we do know, go back a couple of hundred generations and everyone in the UK and Europe had what we would call black skin, mostly with blue eyes

sashh · 21/01/2024 12:11

defective · 21/01/2024 11:42

I dont think you understand how the ancestry test works. It is telling you ( unreliably - but that is a different question) that you have for example "2 bits of Yorkshire". But the Yorkshire gene pool will be a certain percentage of black African origin, a certain percentage Scandinavian origin, a certain percentage southern European origin, etc.

You will have black African ancestors definitely, with a yorkshire background, quite a few, as well as a huge viking input

If you go back far enough everyone has African ancestry, I'm not sure if we know the skin colour of the first human beings, happy to be corrected if we do.

And I'm not stupid, I know these tests are more for amusement. Everyone else I know who has done one has a much more varied set of results.

DogLover24 · 21/01/2024 12:11

@Beezknees That's impossible.

DogLover24 · 21/01/2024 12:10

I was born with light blue eyes and white blonde hair. As a teen my hair was still white blonde but my eyes went navy blue. Now, my hair is darker blonde with very dark eyes. So dark in fact I can’t work out their colour!

defective · 21/01/2024 11:59

Reugny · 21/01/2024 11:57

You have shown you know SFA about biology but are now talking about evolutionary genetics?

I am a geneticist with a particular interest in evolutionary biology

Reugny · 21/01/2024 11:57

defective · 21/01/2024 11:50

I don't understand the hatred for this man on here. He has grounds for a genuine concern, based on what has been said about eye colour in the family on here. He has asked for his mind to be put at rest. Surely he has done the adult thing, rather than let it fester inside him for decades and poison his relationship with both his child and his partner.

Many women do cheat. Particularly around ovulation. It gives an evolutionary advantage. In that sense it is natural behaviour.

I think just do the test and put it all behind you and move forward as a family. Unless there are other reasons to end the relationship, of course

You have shown you know SFA about biology but are now talking about evolutionary genetics?

TheCatterall · 21/01/2024 11:56

I’d get the test to stop the nonsense, but on the proviso that he enters counselling with you or on his own for his trust issues and to work towards stopping his families toxic bullshit impacting your relationship.

I’d explain you think less of him for his insinuations that you’ve had an affair and now see him in a different light and you will have to see how the relationship goes moving forward.

not sure i could be with someone that can’t grasp basic genetics nor trusts me.

Wibblywobblylikejelly · 21/01/2024 11:52

defective · 21/01/2024 11:50

I don't understand the hatred for this man on here. He has grounds for a genuine concern, based on what has been said about eye colour in the family on here. He has asked for his mind to be put at rest. Surely he has done the adult thing, rather than let it fester inside him for decades and poison his relationship with both his child and his partner.

Many women do cheat. Particularly around ovulation. It gives an evolutionary advantage. In that sense it is natural behaviour.

I think just do the test and put it all behind you and move forward as a family. Unless there are other reasons to end the relationship, of course

Does he fuck! There is zero base for his accusations and especially based on eye or hair colour.

And you may be a slave to your basic biology but some of us have evolved to more intelligent and restrained beings.

defective · 21/01/2024 11:50

I don't understand the hatred for this man on here. He has grounds for a genuine concern, based on what has been said about eye colour in the family on here. He has asked for his mind to be put at rest. Surely he has done the adult thing, rather than let it fester inside him for decades and poison his relationship with both his child and his partner.

Many women do cheat. Particularly around ovulation. It gives an evolutionary advantage. In that sense it is natural behaviour.

I think just do the test and put it all behind you and move forward as a family. Unless there are other reasons to end the relationship, of course

EmailAddress · 21/01/2024 11:48

I would think he has cheated on you at some point and he’s projecting.

Really awful behaviour. I would get the test to shut down comments from the family that will affect your child and to stop him behaving differently. Then I would tell him the relationship was over now once the results were back.

defective · 21/01/2024 11:46

KarenNotAKaren · 21/01/2024 11:45

Pack his bags when he’s at work, leave them outside and include a lock of your DC’s hair in an envelope - he can get a DNA test if he wants to but he’s already lost everything. Horrible fucking man, if he has trust issues he shouldn’t be entering into a marriage and having 2 children

you cant do a DNA test on a lock of hair.....

KarenNotAKaren · 21/01/2024 11:45

Pack his bags when he’s at work, leave them outside and include a lock of your DC’s hair in an envelope - he can get a DNA test if he wants to but he’s already lost everything. Horrible fucking man, if he has trust issues he shouldn’t be entering into a marriage and having 2 children

Muchof · 21/01/2024 11:44

Sunshin80 · 21/01/2024 10:28

It does basically mean he thinks I've cheated. I do think his family have been gossiping and then that's fueled his insecurity even further. I do feel really offended and it makes me feel like I don't like him in a way. I just think if I don't get it he'll think I'm hiding something but if I do then I'm the one carrying round this little bit of hate towards him that I can't shake off. Things a good between us that the thing to

He doesn’t “basically” think you have cheated, he thinks you have cheated full stop. Why is he asking for a DNA test, get him to order his own DNA test. Then I would be considering if I wished to continue in the relationship.

I actually don’t have children, but if I did and my husband asked me to prove paternity on the basis of eye colour I don’t think I could come back from that.

duckpancakes · 21/01/2024 11:42

Do the test
Give him the results showing he is the father alongside your divorce papers and request for child maintenance

defective · 21/01/2024 11:42

sashh · 21/01/2024 11:33

When my aunt was looking into our family tree we were quite disappointed that we seem to be white going back forever.

I did an ancestry DNA and my gene pool is two bits of Yorkshire and 2 bits of Ireland with less than 1% Iberian.

I seriously have the most boring genetics / ancestry.

I dont think you understand how the ancestry test works. It is telling you ( unreliably - but that is a different question) that you have for example "2 bits of Yorkshire". But the Yorkshire gene pool will be a certain percentage of black African origin, a certain percentage Scandinavian origin, a certain percentage southern European origin, etc.

You will have black African ancestors definitely, with a yorkshire background, quite a few, as well as a huge viking input

Reugny · 21/01/2024 11:38

defective · 21/01/2024 11:01

brown is dominant, so one of the parents has to have it, and it has to show

Not true.

Eye and hair colour are more complex than what you learnt in school biology.

Tinkerbyebye · 21/01/2024 11:38

I would get the dna test done

then I would present him with divorce papers as he obviously has no trust in me and that’s no way to have a marriage

Sunnydays0101 · 21/01/2024 11:38

I would be extremely offended over this and couldn’t see me having any future with my DH if he made such a request.

Caffeineneedednow · 21/01/2024 11:35

Taking it from a basic genetic level blond hair and blue eyes are both recessive genes. ( there are some other expression factors in place but not relevant here).
This means that you can carry a recessive gene for hundreds of generations and not see it untill you procreate with someone else with that has the recessive gene. So there may not be many in his family with those traits but that doesn't mean his family aren't carriers. A single blond cousin would indicate his family cary the blonde gene.

anarchicparadise · 21/01/2024 11:33

Sapphire387 · 21/01/2024 10:55

I wonder if he's been faithful to you tbh. Accusing you like this is very odd behaviour.

This. With bells on.

sashh · 21/01/2024 11:33

Paw2024 · 21/01/2024 11:22

@defective yeah it just interested me because of the (outing) situation that happened around that generation that I found out and it also links in to our family surname which was lovely to find
Also because you get people who are so racist and bang on about their bloodline being 100% white or whatever....

When my aunt was looking into our family tree we were quite disappointed that we seem to be white going back forever.

I did an ancestry DNA and my gene pool is two bits of Yorkshire and 2 bits of Ireland with less than 1% Iberian.

I seriously have the most boring genetics / ancestry.