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Friend and her husband are snobs!

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Octosaurus · 21/01/2024 08:17

AIBU to cut them off a bit? In our 30s, They both have fairly good professions but they work for very low level average companies - the snobbery of their professions really gives them delusions of grandeur and is not justified imo (is it ever?).

They have a small house in an affluent neighbourhood and tick off all the things their parents would have said makes you "successful" and they act like such snobs because of it but I feel this generation is less judgey than our parents and they act like the rest of the friendship group should worship them.

Examples include bitching about other friends for past behaviours in our teens (that I also partook in but I get more respect because I am more stereotypically "successful". Which rubs me up the wrong way because either you judge that behaviour or you don't not depending on who has the money to overlook it.

They also bang on about being "middle class" and show off about membership club events they attend which are really not impressive to me (myself, I know plenty of people in my line of work who really are successful and impressive but are more modest and classy). They have no class!

Anyway recently they have started making coy jokes about something in my past as if they think I don't realise exactly what they're doing and I've just cut them off.

I was maintaining friendship because they seemed to chase my approval (purely because I am "successful" in their eyes). And it was fine for me and also they are part of the wider friendship group so I didn't want to cause a rift but I can't take it anymore.

I'm finding it harder and harder to not put them down a peg or two and humble them but I think safer to cut ties altogether?

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BibbleandSqwauk · 21/01/2024 08:20

Impossible to say from that really op. All a bit vague. Simple answer is if you don't like them any more, stop being friends. People are allowed to change and move on..them as well as you.

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 21/01/2024 08:20

Well they're not actually friends are they? Friends don't treat each other like that. Yes I'd be casually putting some distance between us.

MiddleagedBeachbum · 21/01/2024 08:21

You clearly don’t like them so why would you be friends?
id say you seem as judgy of them as they do of others

TomeTome · 21/01/2024 08:23

So a couple of people you know aren’t that nice? You can just disagree when people say things you think are objectionable. If they aren’t your cup of tea either be polite or move away or both.

AnotherManHere · 21/01/2024 08:27

Yep you are too vague and it might well be you who is more the issue. But either way you don’t sounds like friends so…

catelynjane · 21/01/2024 08:28

You clearly look down on them so why bother being friends in the first place?

Createausername1970 · 21/01/2024 08:28

If they are part of a wider circle of friends/acquaintances, just leave them there. Don't initiate anything with them and decline anything they initiate. You possibly can't avoid them entirely if they are friends of friends, but unless you want to be obvious about it, by blocking them etc., then this is the route I would go.

Soccermumamir · 21/01/2024 08:32

You clearly don't see eye to eye anymore and unfortunately, over time we do lose friends who we don't have common interests in anymore. Friends should make happy when you see them ir hear from them. It doesn't sound like they are anymore.

Octosaurus · 21/01/2024 08:33

I guess I do sound judgey but I feel like they've invited it by acting so high and mighty. I'm not judgey of anyone else life situation and mind my own business when it comes to that but these people just constantly jump themselves up and mock other people.
It just annoys me because their world view is so limited that I feel it's so obnoxious to assume you're SO successful and assuming that people have never met anyone else as successful. I'm not saying I'm successful really because I'm humbled often by far better smarter people than I am but they just don't seem to grasp the possibility that I am not impressed by them as they are themselves and I feel like that's just annoying objectively ?

But yeah I don't know why I'm trying to stick around just to be nice when their snobbishness annoys me so much

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Wadermellone · 21/01/2024 08:33

Your post is really ironic. So ironic it sounds made up. You are displaying the same behaviour you are moaning about. Talking about low level companies, they have no class, your better neighbourhood and so on.

You were happy being friends when they seemed to believe you were successful. You don’t mind them bitching when it formed part of the admiring you. You didn’t mind them bitching about mutual friends.

Now it’s aimed at you it’s not ok.

Yanbu to end this friendship. But you are coming across exactly the same as you view them. But I would also take a look at yourself. And actually think about whether you are a good friend to this mutual friends. If not, leave them alone as well.

BCBird · 21/01/2024 08:35

I would not give them the time of dsy. I do wonder why u mention the status/ level of their company? I don't understand the relevance

Octosaurus · 21/01/2024 08:37

Wow I'm getting a lot of flack for this! Surely they've invited the judging by showing off so much?
It's like brag brag brag, so I'm like oh okay since you are showing me all your great stuff I will look at it from their snobbishness and I don't really see that it's as great as you make out? and it's obnoxious of you to assume everyone should be impressed by it?

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Octosaurus · 21/01/2024 08:38

Sorry I mentioned the status of the company because while they do have good professions they seem to be acting like people who work at those big US firms that pay a gazzillion but it's really not like that so I don't get the snobbish pride?

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PieAndLattes · 21/01/2024 08:39

You are literally judging them and bitching about them. How are you different to what you claim they are?

MarIeyG · 21/01/2024 08:40

Your post is too vague, no proper examples. You sound very judgy of them so it's hard to tell.

Octosaurus · 21/01/2024 08:42

So to answer why I'm different... I don't judge any other of my network for such shallow things. It's only them because they invite everyone to by bragging so much and being judgey. It's the environment they create.
I couldn't really care less what situation my other friends are in and would help wherever needed or wanted. I don't brag and I have a lot of gratitude.
I think being around them makes me judge them because they literally invite the assessment by being so snobby themselves

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Lighrbulbmo · 21/01/2024 08:42

It seems to me that you have noticed traits and characteristics about them that you do not admire. That is perfectly normal and an excellent reason to just withdraw yourself gently and without a fuss. It also seems you are conflicted by the fact that you hold some loyalty to them due to historic friendship and other friendships in commons that you value and wish to retain. To do this, you will need to maintain friendships with people you no longer respect or admire. This is correct ?
If no, just withdraw, you have nothing to lose.
If yes, politely decline invitations unless other friends are present to dilute the pressure of spending time with them.

BricksTricks · 21/01/2024 08:44

Wadermellone · 21/01/2024 08:33

Your post is really ironic. So ironic it sounds made up. You are displaying the same behaviour you are moaning about. Talking about low level companies, they have no class, your better neighbourhood and so on.

You were happy being friends when they seemed to believe you were successful. You don’t mind them bitching when it formed part of the admiring you. You didn’t mind them bitching about mutual friends.

Now it’s aimed at you it’s not ok.

Yanbu to end this friendship. But you are coming across exactly the same as you view them. But I would also take a look at yourself. And actually think about whether you are a good friend to this mutual friends. If not, leave them alone as well.

This.

If you don't like people then be polite when you come across them in groups, and just don't see them independently. You'll need to start letting go of your strong opinions on the quality of their employers, size of house etc.

Cheesyfootballs01 · 21/01/2024 08:45

So they seek your approval because you are so ‘successful ‘

You were bitching too but that’s ok because you are ‘respected’

OP you sound insufferable- let them have friends that like them for who they are.

rainbowstardrops · 21/01/2024 08:49

You sound as judgy as them! Are you jealous of them?

ChocolateCinderToffee · 21/01/2024 08:52

They obviously bring out the worst in you, OP. For that reason alone I would drop them.

Octosaurus · 21/01/2024 08:52

I'm afraid I haven't explained myself well here! I don't say I'm successful, I think there are many ways to be successful and money is not the only or indeed the most important factor. There are many things that make me unsuccessul, for example I am bad with social anxiety, I don't look great etc etc.
It's that they only make an effort with ME because THEY think I am successful. Which says to me the only thing they value is money

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TipulophobiaIsReal · 21/01/2024 08:52

I'm humbled often by far better smarter people than I am

You obviously see the world more generally in terms of superiority, inferiority, and humbling — not just these "friends". Is it possible that a lot of this stuff about them being snobbish is actually a result of the way you see the world? I don't think it's that normal to go round feeling "humbled" by others (or feeling smug about being "better" than others, either).

Octosaurus · 21/01/2024 08:54

Also I feel like the hate I'm getting is very unjustified. You seem to think it's rude to say someone has a small house or works in a small company but I don't see that as rude I see it as just facts? I have an even smaller house in a much worse area but I don't use that as a metric for judging people.
If you guys think it's rude to say someone has a small house (while simultaneously acting as though it's better than all their friends) then maybe you are judging the small house not me?

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Newchapterbeckons · 21/01/2024 08:57

You sound just as bad op. To be fair.

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